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CharismaticLady

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thanks I appreciate you’re care!
No Mary is not God and cannot do those things you’re right!
But God can and does by the power and working of the Holy Spirit!
Lk 1:37

Yes God can hear your prayers, but not if you waste them talking to someone else who cannot hear you, anymore than God can hear a Muslim's prayers to Allah. God has already sent His son to die for you. Can't you give Him the respect you give His mother??? Even if the whole world followed the crowd and jumped into the Grand Canyon doesn't mean you have to.
 
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Yes God can hear your prayers, but not if you waste them talking to someone else who cannot hear you, anymore than God can hear a Muslim's prayers to Allah. God has already sent His son to die for you. Can't you give Him the respect you give His mother??? Even if the whole world followed the crowd and jumped into the Grand Canyon doesn't mean you have to.

thou art wise, thanks for sharing with me

April rose and I were playing one word biblical hangman yesterday
Would you like to play?
 

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thou art wise, thanks for sharing with me

April rose and I were playing one word biblical hangman yesterday
Would you like to play?

No thanks, this is more important.

Remember, Jesus called who you are doing this to, Jezebel! Do you really think He would say that of His own mother? You are not speaking to Mary, the true mother of Jesus. She cannot hear you, nor protect you. Only God can. You are hoping God's power will work through an idol.
 

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No thanks, this is more important.

Remember, Jesus called who you are doing this to, Jezebel! Do you really think He would say that of His own mother? You are not speaking to Mary, the true mother of Jesus. She cannot hear you, nor protect you. Only God can. You are hoping God's power will work through an idol.

26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
 

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We did this already

The jezebel spirit? Not Mary!

Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel...
someone said Mary is this jezebel or this jezebel spirit...

Lk 1:28 Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amounts women.

How can God full jezebel with grace?
Hail Mary full of grace!

How can the Lord be with jezebel?
The lord is with thee!

How can jezebel be blessed!
Blessed art thou, and all generations shall call me blessed!

Lk 1: 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

How can jezebel be the mother of God?

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

How could jezebel be faithful?

Lk 1: 46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

How could jezebel have a savior?

Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

How could jesebel be humble?

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

How could jesebel be the immaculate conception and the have the Holy Spirit accomplish the Miraculous conception of Jesus?

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

How could jezebel be a perpetual Virgin bringing forth the savior of the world?

Jn 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

How could jezebel be our spiritual mother?

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Mother of Divine Grace!

Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

The throne of Grace is the throne of Mary the ever Virgin mother of God!

We come boldly to this throne cause Mary is our mother and advocate!

Mary is the storehouse of divine graces!

Lk 1:28
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
 

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26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

That is the Holy Spirit, not Mary, or even the Spirit through Mary who does not know you. Do you pray in tongues? That is the Spirit praying perfect prayer and praise to God. Praying in tongues is praying in the Spirit. "groanings which cannot be uttered," are sounds that cannot be understood."
 

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That is the Holy Spirit, not Mary, or even the Spirit through Mary who does not know you. Do you pray in tongues? That is the Spirit praying perfect prayer and praise to God. Praying in tongues is praying in the Spirit. "groanings which cannot be uttered," are sounds that cannot be understood."

traditional hymn to the HS

1 Come, Holy Ghost, Creator blest,
And in our hearts take up thy rest;
Come with thy grace and heav'nly aid
To fill the hearts which thou hast made,
To fill the hearts which thou hast made.

2 O Comforter, to thee we cry,
Thou heav'nly gift of God most high,
Thou fount of life, and fire of love,
And sweet anointing from above,
And sweet anointing from above.

3 O Holy Ghost, through thee alone
Know we the Father and the Son;
Be this our firm unchanging creed,
That thou dost from them both proceed,
That thou dost from them both proceed.

4 Praise we the Lord, Father and Son,
And Holy Spirit with them one;
And may the Son on us bestow
All gifts that from the Spirit flow,
All gifts that from the Spirit flow.
 

theefaith

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No I don’t pray in tongues
I pray in the HS

traditional prayer to the HS

say every morning asking for greater faith hope and charity!

Come, Holy Ghost,
fill the hearts of Thy faithful
and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.

V. Send forth Thy Spirit and they shall be created;
R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth.

Let us pray.

O God, who didst teach the hearts of Thy faithful people
by sending them the light of Thy Holy Spirit,
grant us by the same Spirit
to have a right judgment in all things,
and evermore to rejoice in His holy comfort.
Through Christ our Lord.

Amen.
 

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With scripture references

Come, Holy Ghost,
fill the hearts of Thy faithful
and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.
Rom 5:5

V. Send forth Thy Spirit and they shall be created;
R. And Thou shalt renew the face of the earth. Psalm 104:30

Let us pray.

O God, who didst teach the hearts of Thy faithful people
by sending them the light of Thy Holy Spirit,
grant us by the same Spirit
to have a right judgment in all things,
and evermore to rejoice in His holy comfort. Jn 16:13
Through Christ our Lord. Jn 1:16

Amen.
 

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traditional hymn to the HS

1 Come, Holy Ghost, Creator blest,
And in our hearts take up thy rest;
Come with thy grace and heav'nly aid
To fill the hearts which thou hast made,
To fill the hearts which thou hast made.

2 O Comforter, to thee we cry,
Thou heav'nly gift of God most high,
Thou fount of life, and fire of love,
And sweet anointing from above,
And sweet anointing from above.

3 O Holy Ghost, through thee alone
Know we the Father and the Son;
Be this our firm unchanging creed,
That thou dost from them both proceed,
That thou dost from them both proceed.

4 Praise we the Lord, Father and Son,
And Holy Spirit with them one;
And may the Son on us bestow
All gifts that from the Spirit flow,
All gifts that from the Spirit flow.

What about that is not being uttered?
 

CharismaticLady

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what are you referring to?

You started out with Romans 8:26 "26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
 
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You started out with Romans 8:26 "26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

thats true
 
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To me that’s more a missionary spreading of the gospel the apostles spoke in foreign languages
 

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To me that’s more a missionary spreading of the gospel the apostles spoke in foreign languages

No they didn't. No man can understand tongues except God, so not even foreigners could understand tongues by themselves. 1 Cor. 14:2
 
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No they didn't. No man can understand tongues except God, so not even foreigners could understand tongues by themselves. 1 Cor. 14:2
Acts 2 at Pentecost

Acts 2:
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
 

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Acts 2 at Pentecost

Acts 2:
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
All you have shown is that there is more than one gift of tongues from God!
I believe that @CharismaticLady already knew that!