(waynemlj;38321)
Hi Wayne Murray,You need to spend a bit more time reading the gospels and the letters of Paul in order to settle this matter for yourself.You see, salvation is justification as we hear in Romans 8:1-2, "Therefore, there is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death."You are confusing justification with sanctifiation. Sanctification is the purifying process that goes on in the saved (justified) soul by the indwelling work of the Holy Spirit.By your theory of 'gradual justification' (salvation), if you died tonight you would be lost in Hell forever.Jesus clearly taught otherwise in John 5:24, "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgement, but has passed from death to life."Note the phrase, "has passed from death to life."waynemlj
Dear waynemlj,Hey that is a good name, lol. You quote Rom.8:1-2 but leave off the qualifier.Rom.8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.That was very convenient to leave off the qualifier, “who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit”. I guess according to you, you instantaneously do not walk after the flesh. For me, walking not after the flesh but the Spirit, is a daily learning process.I am not confusing anything, but of course, I do not know it all. The only ones who are already ((justified)) (judged), are God’s elect or the Zadok. They overcame Satan in the first earth age (see Eph.1:4). Before the foundation of the world, and if you are a good Bible student you know this word “foundation” means the overthrow of Satan’s rebellion. I have no theory, only God’s Word. According to you, once saved always saved. According to you, I am pure Gold without any impurities. According to you, I am wheat without any chaff. According to you, I can sin without any need to repent. I am now free to become a serial killer or promote Satan. According to you, I am saved already.Yes many have passed from the sentence of death unto life eternal, but how many have put on immortality as of yet. __Prerequisite For Lord’s Harvest__Adam and Eve ate, assimilated, or consumed knowledge from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, that is Satan. Later God said.Gen.3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of Us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: All must eat, assimilate, or consume knowledge of the tree of life, that is Jesus Christ, to live forever. Notice that the individual must put forth their hand. Born innocents into this flesh age all consume knowledge of good and evil. All are sinners.__Retro-Harvest Post Crucifixion__ I Pet.3:18-19, I Pet.4:6__Lord’s Harvest__ Mal.3:1-6, Rev.14:14-16, Matt.3:11-12, Matt.25:31-34__Final Harvest__ Mal.4:1-6, Rev.14:17-20, Matt.3:10, Matt.25:30The soil (mind) has to be cultivated, the seed (Word) is planted, watering, germination, growth, maturity, and then harvest. You know it seems like a process to me.