Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5, Book of Acts

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Wrangler

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But Jesus is still divine and equally god

Nonsense. Jesus died. God did not die. Scripture tells us in ACTS that God - in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus.

This is not equal to Jesus actually raised himself from the dead. No where is this claim even made in Scripture!

Jesus tells us God, who is the Father alone, is greater than he and knows more than he. Moreover, Jesus tells us that his Father is the only true God. There is no equality - but there is the same oneness we, subsequent sins and daughters, have with God - as Jesus said.
 

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Nonsense. Jesus died. God did not die. Scripture tells us in ACTS that God - in his unitarian nature - raised Jesus.

This is not equal to Jesus actually raised himself from the dead. No where is this claim even made in Scripture!

Jesus tells us God, who is the Father alone, is greater than he and knows more than he. Moreover, Jesus tells us that his Father is the only true God. There is no equality - but there is the same oneness we, subsequent sins and daughters, have with God - as Jesus said.

And Scripture tells us in the gospel of John that Jesus would raise HImself from the dead! , then in romans we read that teh Spirit raised jesus from the dead- and also that God raised Him from the dead-Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

It is truly sad you reject many Scripture verses just because they shatter your wish to de-deify Jesus.

Jesus is divine- Phil 2 says so, and He set that aside to become man and it waswa restored to Him at His Resurrection. That will never change for that is Gods Word!
 

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The proof is the absence of any such statement in Scripture. Said differently, there is no proof of any trinitarian claim.
And that's just your unBiblical opinion!

Col 1 By Jesus all things were created!
 

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Notice how desperate the trinitarians are, COMPLETELY abandoning the field! This thread is about the Book of Acts.

Yabut these other verses (which have been debunked in other threads) ...
Why would he call on just a human, unless he was calling on his Mother? lol
You're being quite ridiculous!
 

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Yeah but is says the WORD is GOD . Simple enough my friend .

Simple enough that Jesus is not mentioned at all in verse 1:1. Simple enough that NOTHING John wrote can be used to support God incarnate because John tells us in 20:31 everything he wrote was to prove Jesus was the Messiah.

And Jesus himself tells us that his Father is the only true God in 17:3. Simple enough.

Using metaphorical language is complicated and unfounded to pretend it is an explicit teaching. Even now people say "my word is my bond." The Creator of the Universe, the LORD God speaks words. He puts this words in a servant he chose. Deuteronomy 18:15-18. This chosen servant is Jesus. Who is the man God selected and raised from the dead below?


31 He has fixed a day of accountability, when the whole world will be justly evaluated by a new, higher standard: not by a statue, but by a living man. God selected this man and made Him credible to all by raising Him from the dead.
Acts 17:31
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And that's just your unBiblical opinion!

No. It is an absolute Biblical fact. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word and not the doctrine.

There simply is no verse that reads The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the F, S, & HS who are co-substantial, co-equal and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this you cannot be saved but are damned forever.
 

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No. It is an absolute Biblical fact. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word and not the doctrine.

There simply is no verse that reads The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the F, S, & HS who are co-substantial, co-equal and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this you cannot be saved but are damned forever.
Ha, ha.
 

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Notice how desperate the trinitarians are, COMPLETELY abandoning the field! This thread is about the Book of Acts.

Yabut these other verses (which have been debunked in other threads) ...

this seems to be your fall back defense when you are shown you are wrong! "Just the Book of Acts" "Just the book of Acts" Never mind what teh rest of the bible says!
 

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Simple enough that Jesus is not mentioned at all in verse 1:1. Simple enough that NOTHING John wrote can be used to support God incarnate because John tells us in 20:31 everything he wrote was to prove Jesus was the Messiah.
Then tell us Who God was in the flesh? Don't know?

John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh. Yep that's Jesus!

Col 1 By Jesus all things were created.

And Jesus himself tells us that his Father is the only true God in 17:3. Simple enough.

Why did you skip Ch 14?

John 14:9 (NKJV)
9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Using metaphorical language is complicated and unfounded to pretend it is an explicit teaching. Even now people say "my word is my bond." The Creator of the Universe, the LORD God speaks words. He puts this words in a servant he chose. Deuteronomy 18:15-18. This chosen servant is Jesus. Who is the man God selected and raised from the dead below?
"Metaphorical" and "symbolic" are common terms used by those who don't agree with God of the Bible. Happens a lot, especially by JW's!
 
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No. It is an absolute Biblical fact. The trinity is not in the Bible - not the word and not the doctrine.

There simply is no verse that reads The nature of God is a trinity - consisting of the F, S, & HS who are co-substantial, co-equal and co-eternal - and if you do not believe this you cannot be saved but are damned forever.
Trinity is Bible FACT! NAME is singular!

Matthew 28:19 (NKJV)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
 
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Trinity is Bible FACT! NAME is singular!

Matthew 28:19 (NKJV)
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
He must have a very small bible judging by everything that gets cut out or rewritten if he is using the JW Bible. I think that is the explanation.
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And Scripture tells us in the gospel of John that Jesus would raise HImself from the dead!

Irrelevant what he WOULD do. Acts informs us that it was actually God who raised Jesus.

Trinitarians want to ignore 20:31 and pretend it means Jesus is God. An interpretation consistent with LANGUAGE USAGE is that they are 2 beings.
  • Even though Wrangler WOULD eat by himself, he actually ate with Ronald.
  • Even though Wrangler WOULD shovel his own drive way, Ronald actually shoveled Wrangler’s driveway.
  • When God is said to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, it was actually angels who did the deed.

The Bible is filled with this sort of thing; Being X does things through Being Y. Yet, when it comes to Jesus, there is no way he would raise himself through God, who is a separate being from himself - even though they are on the same page, ‘at one’ as we are one with God. 17:22
 
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