Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5, Book of Acts

[Emily Nghiem]

Dear @Gregory and @Cooper
A. I see Jack and Jill more like Adam and Eve being symbolic of the Husband-Wife relationship between INDIVIDUAL partners. They are made one where the body of each belongs to the other.
B. For God/Jesus/HolySpirit
This is more like the collective level of how Man is Spirit/Mind/Body

Adam/Eve being complements in partnership may be more like the relationship between Believers under church/scriptural laws and Secular Gentiles under natural/civil laws. Church and State are supposed to be in harmony not in conflict.

When people as the church body or Bride of Christ embrace Jesus as Lord or Husband fulfilling the Laws of God, then we become one and establish the Kingdom of God.

There is both a Lateral relationship between people joined in fellowship as equal neighbors in Christ.

And a relationship between people on Earth with God on a collective Heavenly level where Jesus also is the Mediator reconciling the two, again making us one.

@Wrangler @Mungo

 

[Cooper]

Trinitarinians deny the big reveal of Jesus' ministry is that he is the long awaited Messiah, chosen by God to reconcile humanity to God and was never about revealing God incarnate. (Every Epistle makes clear that God, in his unitarian nature, is the Father alone, whose will is carried out by the Lord Jesus, anointed by God. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. When we say Jack and Jill went up the hill, it is not to be construed they are 1 being. The same when God, the Father, and Jesus went up the hill ...)

The amazing book of Acts establishes the highly controversial fact that a man was resurrected by God - and that eternal life is the inheritance of all who believe. No fair reading of this book could support any other conclusion. The trinitarian IDOLATRY of this man destroys the proof of Good News of our inheritance. For it is understandable that an all powerful God could appear to die and resurrect himself. (Translation below is CJB)

ACTS 1
v3 After his death he showed himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. (God is eternal and him being alive is a given).

v7 He answered, “You don’t need to know the dates or the times; the Father has kept these under his own authority. (The Father Alone is God and his authority being different from and higher than Jesus in this verse is clear.)

ACTS 4
v7 “By what power or in what name did you do this?” NOTE: The answer is NOT in the name of God and no claim of God incarnate. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. The name is not the name of God.
v10 It is in the name of the Messiah, Yeshua from Natzeret, whom you had executed on a stake as a criminal but whom God has raised from the dead, that this man stands before you perfectly healed. (God in his unitarian nature clearly acted upon the dead Messiah, in whose name the emissaries of the Anointed One do this, perform miracles).

v24 Begins a prayer to God ...
v27 your holy servant Yeshua, whom you made Messiah (Again, God acted on Jesus, the Messiah. In this verse, God, in his unitarian nature made Yeshua the Messiah. This is not how one would talk about God incarnate).

Thus the prayer to God ends with

v30 Stretch out your hand to heal and to do signs and miracles through the name of your holy servant Yeshua!” (God, in his unitarian nature, does signs and miracles in the name of his servant, Yeshua. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. God is not his own servant.)

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[Marymog]

Trinitarinians deny the big reveal of Jesus' ministry is that he is the long awaited Messiah, chosen by God to reconcile humanity to God and was never about revealing God incarnate. (Every Epistle makes clear that God, in his unitarian nature, is the Father alone, whose will is carried out by the Lord Jesus, anointed by God. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. When we say Jack and Jill went up the hill, it is not to be construed they are 1 being. The same when God, the Father, and Jesus went up the hill ...)

The amazing book of Acts establishes the highly controversial fact that a man was resurrected by God - and that eternal life is the inheritance of all who believe. No fair reading of this book could support any other conclusion. The trinitarian IDOLATRY of this man destroys the proof of Good News of our inheritance. For it is understandable that an all powerful God could appear to die and resurrect himself. (Translation below is CJB)

ACTS 1
v3 After his death he showed himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. (God is eternal and him being alive is a given).

v7 He answered, “You don’t need to know the dates or the times; the Father has kept these under his own authority. (The Father Alone is God and his authority being different from and higher than Jesus in this verse is clear.)

ACTS 4
v7 “By what power or in what name did you do this?” NOTE: The answer is NOT in the name of God and no claim of God incarnate. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. The name is not the name of God.
v10 It is in the name of the Messiah, Yeshua from Natzeret, whom you had executed on a stake as a criminal but whom God has raised from the dead, that this man stands before you perfectly healed. (God in his unitarian nature clearly acted upon the dead Messiah, in whose name the emissaries of the Anointed One do this, perform miracles).

v24 Begins a prayer to God ...
v27 your holy servant Yeshua, whom you made Messiah (Again, God acted on Jesus, the Messiah. In this verse, God, in his unitarian nature made Yeshua the Messiah. This is not how one would talk about God incarnate).

Thus the prayer to God ends with

v30 Stretch out your hand to heal and to do signs and miracles through the name of your holy servant Yeshua!” (God, in his unitarian nature, does signs and miracles in the name of his servant, Yeshua. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. God is not his own servant.)

Jack AND Jill indicates two separate beings/persons. Your Jack and Jill analogy does’t fit because in John 14:26 Jesus (a person/being) said that his Father (a being) will send the Holy Spirit (a being). He didn’t say his Father would send himself.

Bible Study Mary

 

[APAK]

Jack AND Jill indicates two separate beings/persons. Your Jack and Jill analogy does’t fit because in John 14:26 Jesus (a person/being) said that his Father (a being) will send the Holy Spirit (a being). He didn’t say his Father would send himself.

Bible Study Mary

The Comforter, Advocate, Spokesperson is a spirit (a spiritual device) of the Spirit of God the Father. It is NOT a person, or a separate person. It is a specific power and feature (of many) of the Spirit of God which is of the Father. The Spirit of God is the composition of the one invisible God, the Father. It is a powerful spiritual tool and function given to Christ's disciples to help them: to know what and when to speak by spirit from the Father. To bring and speak the words of Christ to their minds and lips.

This is part of the Spirit of Christ of truth that all believers possess...

 

[talico]

Trinitarinians deny the big reveal of Jesus' ministry is that he is the long awaited Messiah, chosen by God to reconcile humanity to God and was never about revealing God incarnate. (Every Epistle makes clear that God, in his unitarian nature, is the Father alone, whose will is carried out by the Lord Jesus, anointed by God. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. When we say Jack and Jill went up the hill, it is not to be construed they are 1 being. The same when God, the Father, and Jesus went up the hill ...)

The amazing book of Acts establishes the highly controversial fact that a man was resurrected by God - and that eternal life is the inheritance of all who believe. No fair reading of this book could support any other conclusion. The trinitarian IDOLATRY of this man destroys the proof of Good News of our inheritance. For it is understandable that an all powerful God could appear to die and resurrect himself. (Translation below is CJB)

ACTS 1
v3 After his death he showed himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. (God is eternal and him being alive is a given).

v7 He answered, “You don’t need to know the dates or the times; the Father has kept these under his own authority. (The Father Alone is God and his authority being different from and higher than Jesus in this verse is clear.)

ACTS 4
v7 “By what power or in what name did you do this?” NOTE: The answer is NOT in the name of God and no claim of God incarnate. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. The name is not the name of God.
v10 It is in the name of the Messiah, Yeshua from Natzeret, whom you had executed on a stake as a criminal but whom God has raised from the dead, that this man stands before you perfectly healed. (God in his unitarian nature clearly acted upon the dead Messiah, in whose name the emissaries of the Anointed One do this, perform miracles).

v24 Begins a prayer to God ...
v27 your holy servant Yeshua, whom you made Messiah (Again, God acted on Jesus, the Messiah. In this verse, God, in his unitarian nature made Yeshua the Messiah. This is not how one would talk about God incarnate).

Thus the prayer to God ends with

v30 Stretch out your hand to heal and to do signs and miracles through the name of your holy servant Yeshua!” (God, in his unitarian nature, does signs and miracles in the name of his servant, Yeshua. Logic. Definition. Language Usage. God is not his own servant.)

Do you believe Jesus came down from heaven?
If not then why not? If so then how so being He was a man?

 

[APAK]

Do you believe Jesus came down from heaven?
If not then why not? If so then how so being He was a man?

What Jesus was saying is that he was born from Heaven, by the Spirit of God, the Father from Heaven.
The phrase 'came down from heaven' or similar ones used in the NT especially, are idioms. They are figurative expressions. In this case, Jesus did NOT actually come from heaven himself, or existed in heaven before he was conceived.

And of course Jesus was conceived by the Spirit of God as a human male - a 100% human man.

 

[Wrangler]

Do you believe Jesus came down from heaven?

The same as all men do.

If so then how so being He was a man?

Like all men. See above.

Obviously, a mistake trinitarian make is to suppose any information we have about this chosen man is different from other men.

I’ve been told the Bible does not say anything about re-incarnation. Well, except for Jesus, there might be some truth to that. Naturally, trinitarians have to play word games at every turn to support their inherently contradictory doctrine.

 

[Wrangler]

Jack AND Jill indicates two separate beings/persons. Your Jack and Jill analogy does’t fit because in John 14:26

It totally fits. John 14:26 has a “you” and and “I.” This refers to 2 beings.

Just because the verse references more than 2 does not make them all one being.

 

[kcnalp]

The same as all men do.
Like all men. See above.

Are you serious???

Obviously, a mistake trinitarian make is to suppose any information we have about this chosen man is different from other men.

I’ve been told the Bible does not say anything about re-incarnation. Well, except for Jesus, there might be some truth to that. Naturally, trinitarians have to play word games at every turn to support their inherently contradictory doctrine.

Incredible! It will be quite interesting when you stand before Jesus on Judgment Day! Glad I'm not in your shoes!

 

[talico]

The same as all men do.



Like all men. See above.

Obviously, a mistake trinitarian make is to suppose any information we have about this chosen man is different from other men.

I’ve been told the Bible does not say anything about re-incarnation. Well, except for Jesus, there might be some truth to that. Naturally, trinitarians have to play word games at every turn to support their inherently contradictory doctrine.

You did not come down from heaven. Im not a trinitarian but your theology is greatly flawed.

 

[kcnalp]

You did not come down from heaven. Im not a trinitarian but your theology is greatly flawed.

Amen!

 

[talico]

What Jesus was saying is that he was born from Heaven, by the Spirit of God, the Father from Heaven.
The phrase 'came down from heaven' or similar ones used in the NT especially, are idioms. They are figurative expressions. In this case, Jesus did NOT actually come from heaven himself, or existed in heaven before he was conceived.

And of course Jesus was conceived by the Spirit of God as a human male - a 100% human man.

Your interpretation is flawed I suggest you stick with the truth.

 

[talico]

No one said God is a man

The word of God became God. This does not mean God became man for that would contradict Numbers 23:19.
How so? At the time that was written Jesus had not come down from heaven.

 

[APAK]

Your interpretation is flawed I suggest you stick with the truth.

So are you saying you cannot refute what I've said because you don't really understand what Jesus meant when he said he 'came down from heaven'? You speak of truth as many like you do and all cannot expand and share this so-called 'truth.'

Your truth is derived from false and ignorant teachings and doctrine that today you dare not question. You are 'locked in and 'hard wired' to it.

If you are really sincere about your truth then you should easily be able to explain it with eagerness so any casual observer could understand it. And yet you cannot. So your words are empty, without substance.

You really do not understand what an idiom is do you? I suggest you study scripture more in depth.

When manna came down from heaven, did the food actually come down from heaven?

 

[kcnalp]

The word of God became God.

What? God always existed!

This does not mean God became man for that would contradict Numbers 23:19.
How so? At the time that was written Jesus had not come down from heaven.

JW?

 

[talico]

So are you saying you cannot refute what I've said because you don't really understand what Jesus meant when he said he 'came down from heaven'? You speak of truth as many like you do and all cannot expand and share this so-called 'truth.'

Your truth is derived from false and ignorant teachings and doctrine that today you dare not question. You are 'locked in and 'hard wired' to it.

If you are really sincere about your truth then you should easily be able to explain it with eagerness so any casual observer could understand it. And yet you cannot. So your words are empty, without substance.

You really do not understand what an idiom is do you? I suggest you study scripture more in depth.

When manna came down from heaven, did the food actually come down from heaven?

What would you care to wager?

 

[talico]

What? God always existed!

JW?

No. I am a Jesus witness.

 

[kcnalp]

No. I am a Jesus witness.

Sounds like JW.

 

[APAK]

What would you care to wager?

Answer MY POST or shut up and don't speak your trash as you try to deceive and scamper away like a coward by deflecting my words all away.

 

[talico]

Answer MY POST or shut up and don't speak your trash as you try to deceive and scamper away like a coward by deflecting my words all away.

I will just turn the other cheek to you.