Seventh Day Adventist Beliefs

[Phoneman777]

BAd new for you for not all will be judged,

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Do you not understand that the "books" used in the Judgment includes the Book of Life and those whose names are written therein?

Did you never read where Paul says:
"WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE
must
ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL
STAND BEFORE THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST"???????????????????????????????

Seriously, is English your first language?

 

[mjrhealth]

You force your misconception. But "Whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, is _guilty_ of all." The Law is God's reason not to boast, but to bust all boasting; the Law is God's way to show sin; not to sin for show.
So no one escapes its tentacles and teeth, least the man who boasts whosoever (always himself only) shall break the whole law offends in no point and is guiltless.

Yes no man can boast of the law, but many can boast of Christ, because He is the end of the law for those who are in Him,

 

[mjrhealth]

Do you not understand that the "books" used in the Judgment includes the Book of Life and those whose names are written therein?

Did you never read where Paul says:
"WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE
must
ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL ALL
STAND BEFORE THE JUDGEMENT SEAT OF CHRIST"???????????????????????????????

Seriously, is English your first language?

If that is what you want than that is what you will have. And you wont be alone in that matter.

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Do you think God a hypocrite that He will judge a man twice after finding Him innocent the first time.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Ok, so a "damning heresy" does not involve damnation. Thank you for clarifying that.
What then differentiates a "damning heresy" versus just a heresy?

The reader. If he is able to.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Yes no man can boast of the law, but many can boast of Christ, because He is the end of the law for those who are in Him,

I know what "end" means for you; it means Jesus left you no Sabbath Day. Well, the end of the Law is not to make Christ of no effect for those who are in Him.

"If JESUS gave them Rest - the Rest-of-GOD - there THEREFORE for the People of God remains Sabbath-Day-of-rest." // “Sabbath indeed THEREFORE – because JESUS rested them – remains / remains valid for (the Christian Church) the People of God.”

The Law does not make Christ of no effect for those who are in Him -- "YOU", TWISTERS OF THE SCRIPTURES, "former worshippers of the weak and beggarly no-gods ... make Christ of no effect"!

 

[quietthinker]

The scriptures are a closed book to those who care not for righteousness and whose objective is to propagate their own theories. They will wrest the plainest texts from their context to support their position. The Gospel of Grace is to them nothing more than something to be exploited for their own ends. They have forgotten that God will not be mocked.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The scriptures are a closed book to those who care not for righteousness and whose objective is to propagate their own theories. They will wrest the plainest texts from their context to support their position. The Gospel of Grace is to them nothing more than something to be exploited for their own ends. They have forgotten that God will not be mocked.

A blank thought posted on internet is as ineffective as a blank cartridge fired, it only pollutes the air a little.

 

[quietthinker]

A blank thought posted on internet is as ineffective as a blank cartridge fired, it only pollutes the air a little.

I'm sorry you don't get the connection!

 

[mjrhealth]

I know what "end" means for you; it means Jesus left you no Sabbath Day. Well, the end of the Law is not to make Christ of no effect for those who are in Him.

"If JESUS gave them Rest - the Rest-of-GOD - there THEREFORE for the People of God remains Sabbath-Day-of-rest." // “Sabbath indeed THEREFORE – because JESUS rested them – remains / remains valid for (the Christian Church) the People of God.”

The Law does not make Christ of no effect for those who are in Him -- "YOU", TWISTERS OF THE SCRIPTURES, "former worshippers of the weak and beggarly no-gods ... make Christ of no effect"!

I am not so sure you have any idea of what you are talking about, you seem to be assuming a lot, and we all know what that does.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I'm sorry you don't get the connection!

Even if the 'connection' be pro-Sabbath, the effect would be the same.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I am not so sure you have any idea of what you are talking about, you seem to be assuming a lot, and we all know what that does.

I'm not assuming. You know "the end of the law" for you means the extermination of the Fourth Commandment. Now that you know we all know you, all of a sudden have no idea of what I am talking about. I'm talking about the louzy job you must have to talk in circles neverendingly having no clue what you believe or actually stand for. The Indians used to know the meaning of the smoke circles they sent up, but you haven't any idea.

 

[bbyrd009]

The scriptures are a closed book to those who care not for righteousness and whose objective is to propagate their own theories. They will wrest the plainest texts from their context to support their position. The Gospel of Grace is to them nothing more than something to be exploited for their own ends. They have forgotten that God will not be mocked.

Word

A blank thought posted on internet is as ineffective as a blank cartridge fired, it only pollutes the air a little.

we forgive you

 

[quietthinker]

Word
we forgive you

Whewww! ...i escaped the hangman noose

 

[Phoneman777]

If that is what you want than that is what you will have. And you wont be alone in that matter.

What do you mean, "if that is what you want..."? That's exactly what Scripture says, right or wrong? I've shown you that Paul says you, MJH, are going to stand before the Judgment seat of Christ. There's only one way to deal with texts which are unwelcome to us, and it ain't questioning whether they are true or not. This whole mess got started long ago by some who were led by Satan to do just that, didn't it?

Do you think God a hypocrite that He will judge a man twice after finding Him innocent the first time.

Your total ignorance of the Judgment leads you to ask such a silly question. The Judgment is 3 phased:

1) Investigative -

• happening now (Revelation 14:6 "the hour of His judgement IS come")
• begins "at the house of God" first with the dead in Christ
• finishes with those who claim to be alive in Christ.
• the wicked are, by their own rejection of God's pleadings, already condemned

2) Declarative -

• happens at the close of His High Priestly ministry (Rev. 22:11 "let him who is unjust, filthy, etc.")

3) Executive -

• During the post-Second Coming 1,000 year reign of Christ and His saints in heaven, the cases of the condemned are under review by everyone, that all may be satisfied and proclaim "just and true are Thy ways O king of saints!"
• After the 1,000 years, the capital city of the universe New Jerusalem is relocated to Earth
• The wicked are resurrected by God
• They are deceived by Satan against God the final time
• They are marshaled by him to surround the city
• Their attention is arrested by the sudden high ascension of Christ's White Throne Seat of Judgement
• They finally confess Christ is Savior and Lord and they are guilty of refusing to accept Him as such
• In a last desperate act, they rush the walls of the city only to be greeted with fire from out of heaven
• The fire floods the Earth in a Lake of Fire and sweeps the wicked away into it
• The wicked burn in accordance to the evil each has perpetrated - Satan naturally burns the longest
• Satan at last burns up out of existence - nothing but the ashes of the wicked remain
• God creates New Heavens and New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness - and no Antinomianists

 

[mjrhealth]

What do you mean, "if that is what you want..."? That's exactly what Scripture says, right or wrong? I've shown you that Paul says you, MJH, are going to stand before the Judgment seat of Christ. There's only one way to deal with texts which are unwelcome to us, and it ain't questioning whether they are true or not. This whole mess got started long ago by some who were led by Satan to do just that, didn't it? Your total ignorance of the Judgment leads you to ask such a silly question. The Judgment is 3 phased:

1) Investigative -

• happening now (Revelation 14:6 "the hour of His judgement IS come")
• begins "at the house of God" first with the dead in Christ
• finishes with those who claim to be alive in Christ.
• the wicked are, by their own rejection of God's pleadings, already condemned

2) Declarative -

• happens at the close of His High Priestly ministry (Rev. 22:11 "let him who is unjust, filthy, etc.")

3) Executive -

• During the post-Second Coming 1,000 year reign of Christ and His saints in heaven, the cases of the condemned are under review by everyone, that all may be satisfied and proclaim "just and true are Thy ways O king of saints!"
• After the 1,000 years, the capital city of the universe New Jerusalem is relocated to Earth
• The wicked are resurrected by God
• They are deceived by Satan against God the final time
• They are marshaled by him to surround the city
• Their attention is arrested by the sudden high ascension of Christ's White Throne Seat of Judgement
• They finally confess Christ is Savior and Lord and they are guilty of refusing to accept Him as such
• In a last desperate act, they rush the walls of the city only to be greeted with fire from out of heaven
• The fire floods the Earth in a Lake of Fire and sweeps the wicked away into it
• The wicked burn in accordance to the evil each has perpetrated - Satan naturally burns the longest
• Satan at last burns up out of existence - nothing but the ashes of the wicked remain
• God creates New Heavens and New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness - and no Antinomianists

You still so much want to be judged by your works, and condemn all mankind to death..

 

[Phoneman777]

You still so much want to be judged by your works, and condemn all mankind to death..

Your own words expose you as totally ignorant to the truth that it's only possible for the saved to keep God's law (Romans 8:7) - by the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit (Philippians 4:13), while the unrighteous demand God count their disobedience a worthy covering for their sin (Proverbs 28:13).

Of course, you who love evildoing more than the Savior who came to save us from our evildoing will forever be blinded to this truth, because "if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost, in whom the God of this world hath blinded them, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Who is the image of God, should shine unto them." Repent, MJH, and make a total surrender to Christ and stop serving sin unto death (Romans 6:14-16).

 

[mjrhealth]

Your own words expose you as totally ignorant to the truth that it's only possible for the saved to keep God's law (Romans 8:7) - by the indwelling power of the Holy Spirit (Philippians 4:13), while the unrighteous demand God count their disobedience a worthy covering for their sin (Proverbs 28:13).

Of course, you who love evildoing more than the Savior who came to save us from our evildoing will forever be blinded to this truth, because "if our Gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost, in whom the God of this world hath blinded them, lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, Who is the image of God, should shine unto them." Repent, MJH, and make a total surrender to Christ and stop serving sin unto death (Romans 6:14-16).

Blinded you mean this bit

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

about how some are trying to mix the old with the new, the old flesh and works with the spirit an grace, and breaking the whole thing, yes Jesus warned us there would be some just like that, disobedient and unbelievers

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

and that is why you will never be at rest.. forever breaking the law and remaining in your sin.

 

[historyb]

The Roman Catholics have their Sunday based on a lie; the SDA their Sabbath based on nothing;
The Roman Catholics have their Virgin Mary; the SDA their "servant of the Lord";
The Roman Catholics have their works-righteousness; the SDA their rest-righteousness;
The Roman Catholics are self-assured majorities; the SDA self-asserting minorities;
The Roman Catholics have their collard priests; the SDA their throttled pastors;
The Roman Catholics have their Inquisitions; the SDA their General Conference...
...it is impossible to draw the thinnest of lines between these oppressive powers.

 

[Phoneman777]

Blinded you mean this bit

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

about how some are trying to mix the old with the new, the old flesh and works with the spirit an grace, and breaking the whole thing, yes Jesus warned us there would be some just like that, disobedient and unbelievers

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
Heb 4:5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Heb 4:7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

and that is why you will never be at rest.. forever breaking the law and remaining in your sin.

So, God will be disappointed in those of us who strove to keep their bodies under and bring them into submission for Christ's sake, while praising Antinomianists who shout "freedom in Christ" while engaging in the "self love" of internet porn or some other sin, right?

 

[mjrhealth]

So, God will be disappointed in those of us who strove to keep their bodies under and bring them into submission for Christ's sake, while praising Antinomianists who shout "freedom in Christ" while engaging in the "self love" of internet porn or some other sin, right?

For a man who claims to keep the law, you seem deeply fascinated by sin, yes go on be just like this man because you sound just liek him,

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

ye all you law keepers sound just teh same.