Shall we discuss this?

[kcnalp]

No, just scrutinize the fishy ones.

Fishy: The ones you don't like? Did you read the penalty for removing Scripture in Rev? But you probably don't like Rev either.

 

[Truther]

1 Timothy 3
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

But we already knew all that.

Right. God was revealed inside Jesus His son. (also as per 2 Cor 5:19)

Not, God was MADE INTO flesh as some suggest.

 

[Truther]

Fishy: The ones you don't like? Did you read the penalty for removing Scripture in Rev?

Modern Bibles are not scripture, but commentary.

 

[kcnalp]

Right. God was revealed inside Jesus His son. (also as per 2 Cor 5:19)

Not, God was MADE INTO flesh as some suggest.

Of course God was in Jesus. John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh.

 

[kcnalp]

Modern Bibles are not scripture, but commentary.

Then why do you use them to prove your opinions when they all agree that you are wrong?

 

[Taken]

Not trying to speak for you but think for you.

Utterly Ridiculous.
You flat out claimed I said something I did not say.

You say God became a man.

That is a Lie.
Repeating your Lie, does not improve your credibility.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all.

Why don't you ask God? He said it.

No need I have his written word. night and day is in this world, not the world to come. it's written in his word.

So you're saying Hell is only temporary?

can you now read? Revelation 20:13 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
well hell is no more.

as you said, "why don't you ask God?

PICJAG.

 

[kcnalp]

GINOLJC, to all.

No need I have his written word. night and day is in this world, not the world to come. it's written in his word.

can you now read? Revelation 20:13 "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."
Revelation 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
Revelation 20:15 "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
well hell is no more.

as you said, "why don't you ask God?

PICJAG.

"Death" does not mean cease to exist.

 

[101G]

"Death" does not mean cease to exist.

the second one do.

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

for the former things are passed away, not in the NEW CREATION. BINGO.

PICJAG.

 

[Taken]

Why don't you ask God? He said it.

Revelation 20:10 And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Read again...That applies to: "they" Specific.
[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

There is no "deceived them"...being tormented for ever and ever.

Understand...eternal Torment can only apply to a Life that cannot Die.
Spirits can not Die.
* Terrestrial (Earthly) beings are Not spirits....they can not experience torment Forever and Ever.
* Celestrial beings Are Eternal Spirits, that can not Die.
Their eternal torment is NOT oochie ouchie Fire or the Stink of Brimstone (Sulfur).
Their Eternal Torment IS the utter "Absence of REST". ( in any manner of peace, comfort, contentment, etc.)

Tormented "day and night", "Forever and Ever"... is simply Notification that AT NO Time will there be Reprieve, so they (the devil, the beast, the False Prophet) CAN experience a Time of REST.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[kcnalp]

the second one do.

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

for the former things are passed away, not in the NEW CREATION. BINGO.

PICJAG.

The part you quoted is ONLY for those who are saved. The rest will burn in Hell "forever and ever".

 

[101G]

The part you quoted is ONLY for those who are saved. The rest will burn in Hell "forever and ever".

you still don't understand, be well.

PICJAG.

 

[kcnalp]

the second one do.

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

for the former things are passed away, not in the NEW CREATION. BINGO.

PICJAG.

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

And that will include those who chop out parts of the Bible they don't like, I.E. the eternal fire.

 

[kcnalp]

you still don't understand, be well.

PICJAG.

you still don't understand, be well.

PICJAG.

Our only hope is salvation before we die.

"being in torments"
"I am tormented in this flame"
"you are tormented"
"this place of torment"
"between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us"

Luke 16
22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' 27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'

 

[101G]

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

And that will include those who chop out parts of the Bible they don't like, I.E. the eternal fire.

the fire is everlasting, until FOR WHO?

for the earth abid forever? until when? unti the new creation. so good day

PICJAG.

 

[101G]

Our only hope is salvation before we die.

"being in torments"
"I am tormented in this flame"
"you are tormented"
"this place of torment"
"between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us"

Luke 16
22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' 27 Then he said, 'I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.'

SEE THE TOPIC ON THIS SUBJECT.

 

[kcnalp]

the fire is everlasting, until FOR WHO?

for the earth abid forever? until when? unti the new creation. so good day

PICJAG.

For all who aren't saved, obviously as I just quoted.

 

[kcnalp]

SEE THE TOPIC ON THIS SUBJECT.

I was replying to YOUR comments.

 

[101G]

I was replying to YOUR comments.

YOU STILL MISSED THE POINT AGAIN. oh well

PICJAG.

 

[Renniks]

So the flesh that was made in verse 14 is God making Himself?

it's God putting on human flesh.