Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

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Heavens to Betsy! And there you go again, with your “quotes.” I’m a Christian who foolishly stays at a church that rubs me the wrong way all the time butting stay to avoid someone using quotes.

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Well , You have spoken well .
For it is very foolish and highly unwise to remain , to foolishly remain at a church who would lead people astray .
but tell me , DO WE take our own advice . cause i sure seems to see a lot of folks
continuing to remain under men and etc that are connected to ecumeincal interfaith intereglious dialgoe .
THE VERY DIALGOUE that preached ANTI CHRIST for all to see .
As it hollered To all FALSE religoins , HEY we all serve the same GOD in different ways
OUR GOD is not better than yours . WE ALL coming to the same GOD . MAKING GOD A LIAR
CALLING CHRIST A LIAR , making the dire necessity for those false religions To repent and BELEIVE ON JESUS .

That is exactly where this intefaith is gonna lead all as ONE to join hand in hand with .
And you and others would just have me SAY nothing , to warn no one . WRONG . I am gonna warn all that i can
GET THE HECK out of anything ecumeincal and do it NOW .
 
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Well , You have spoken well .
For it is very foolish and highly unwise to remain , to foolishly remain at a church who would lead people astray .
but tell me , DO WE take our own advice . cause i sure seems to see a lot of folks
continuing to remain under men and etc that are connected to ecumeincal interfaith intereglious dialgoe .
THE VERY DIALGOUE that preached ANTI CHRIST for all to see .
As it hollered To all FALSE religoins , HEY we all serve the same GOD in different ways
OUR GOD is not better than yours . WE ALL coming to the same GOD . MAKING GOD A LIAR
CALLING CHRIST A LIAR , making the dire necessity for those false religions To repent and BELEIVE ON JESUS .

That is exactly where this intefaith is gonna lead all as ONE to join hand in hand with .
And you and others would just have me SAY nothing , to warn no one . WRONG . I am gonna warn all that i can
GET THE HECK out of anything ecumeincal and do it NOW .
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Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you
I don't think that being Christian is really a factor.

Historically, Judaism is an enemy of Christianity. Besides, there's a real case to be made that the modern Israeli nation isn't even related to the Israel of the Bible. Not after the flesh, and certainly not after the spirit.

That said, I find that the modern geopolitical state of Israel is an ally. They are the tip-of-the-spear in the conflict between Islam and... everyone else.
 

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line the walls and let all that has breath praise and thank the Glorious Lord . POINT to JESUS THE CHRIST
till the last and final breath leaves those lungs .
And always remember NO LIE cometh of GOD but comes of another who has always desired to be AS GOD .
And this other can act like it loves humanity and desires what is best for them .
but take heed and beware for its love WILL ALLOW sins and even UNBELIEF upon them . THAT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
For that end is DESTRUCTION . always REMEMBER THAT
And now a word .
YE SHALL NOT HATE your neigbor in your heart , YOU SHALL in any way CORRECT THEM and NOT ALLOW SIN upon them .
THAT IS WHAT the LOVE OF GOD does and that would have been what his sheep did too .
But beware , oh beware and beware for the love of a harlot which hollers judge not and DOES ALLOW
sin upon the people to remain and even NOW allows UNBELEIF upon them as it merges them with the false religoins too .
WE are BEING LIED TO WRANGLER . this peace IS OF many anti christs and it will lead all TO ANTI CHRIST and their own
destruction . Get them OUT of anything ecumeincal NOW .
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line the walls and let all that has breath praise and thank the Glorious Lord . POINT to JESUS THE CHRIST
till the last and final breath leaves those lungs .
And always remember NO LIE cometh of GOD but comes of another who has always desired to be AS GOD .
And this other can act like it loves humanity and desires what is best for them .
but take heed and beware for its love WILL ALLOW sins and even UNBELIEF upon them . THAT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
For that end is DESTRUCTION . always REMEMBER THAT .
and now a word . HE who adds too or takes from this book shall have the plagues written it and their name REMOVED
from the book of life .
But satan is real sneaky . For he comes to say OH there is no such thing as the lake of fire
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many do not like the idea of commands . everything seems as legalism to many .
There is no love of GOD upon their hearts . There is love of a harlot .
And a harlot is Not one that any should have sat under and heeded her love .
Many have only the love for the twisted doctrines of men , NOT the pure love of THE Truth .
For sadly many have loved a lie .
Whatever fits their own lifestyle , whatever tickled their ear , IS THEIR GOD NOW .
and that is very hard and sad for me to say . WHY
Well because THAT AINT THE GOD OR HIS CHRIST . it be this god , I shall exalt myself , i shall be as GOD
That god cannot save .
That god has no desire to save . But he sure can act like he do as he twists and omits and pumps a love
of this world and of his harlot unto the entire world . Oh he can act like he love and does desire
on ly good for them . BUT really He knows it will be t heir OWN DESTRUCTION on the DAY OF THE LORD .
He is a liar and the father of it . but many love lies and thus are now being merged as one
UNDER THE LIE of all lies that the devil , his harlot and her daughters now call love and a means to attain world peace n safety .
SO . REMEMBER when i said WE BETTER ALL watch out . WELL , WE HAD BETTER ALL watch out .
BIBLE TIME IN the house .
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Not only have i and others shown you by the scrips SOME of yalls error
EVERY TIME i did or another does , YA wont hear it and keep rejecting .
I aint gonna keep on bringing all them scrips To folks THAT refuse to hear them . Its a vexing of the soul
to continually show THOSE WHO REFUSE TO HEAR , the same things over and over again .
I told you long ago , i showed you where this error was . AND you refused it . more than once .
AND NOT just me but others too . So now all i can do is warn any and all
DO NOT ENTER into covenant with THE JW and its watchtower . Rather LEARN THE BIBLE .
However that list is a whole lot longer than just JW . yet the answer is always the same , BIBLE TIME FOLKS .MEN
been a duping us for years .
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.....and the majority of those who wear a “Christian” label simply change churches if they don’t like the one they are attending....
Oh! Aunty Jane! It's even "werser" then that! :anguished:
I've attended churches in the past where salesmen, insurance, reality, etc. go to a church, and some even get "rebaptised" so as to build up a client base! Then? When either they find no, or there aren't any left to be had? Yep!! They will leave to another, and do it again!
Are they ALL like that? Surely not!
Yet? As a PSA?
Yes indeedy Petey!
They DO exist!
 

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There you go again, pushing your manmade doctrines on how many angels dance on the head of a pin! LOL
I believe you are the only one mentioning such nonsense, which is designed to lump us in with the fanatics...
What is this fixation with angels dancing on the head of a pin? You are the only one mentioning it.
You obviously consider yourself a 1st class Christian.
No, I consider myself an obedient Christian who simply follows what Jesus taught and tries their best to study God’s word at a level most people think is beyond them, because Christendom demands a degree in theology if one is to be a teacher. I have been a teacher for over 50 years and if I don’t know my subject matter by now, then there is no excuse for not having answers to the difficult questions.

As far as a knowledge of Scripture is concerned...you appear to be clueless so I don’t know why you bother to quote them with no understanding of context...
Unlike you, I’m only a 2nd class Christian who doesn’t even know what criteria should be used in selecting what church one should go to.
I really don’t understand your strange responses.....the criteria that defines a Christian is clearly stated in God’s word.
If you don’t know what is required, perhaps a Bible study is in order...?
One of the main criteria is to “know the only true God AND the one he sent” (John 17:3) Before I studied the Bible, I knew about God and his Son....but I didn’t really know them on a personal level.
You’re so unloving and anti-Biblical, you cannot even think in terms of being someone’s friend. You’re so ridiculous.
Wrangler, what on earth are you talking about?......you don’t know me well enough to make personal assertions about me. Ask my neighbors and my spiritual family if what you say is true....
My dearest friend is a former neighbor whom I view as a fleshly sister.....my friends are those with whom I feel comfortable in their company......you have no idea who I am....but I am getting a glimpse of you and it appears to be getting a little unhinged....
Being someone's friend means giving them something to drink when they are thirsty, food when they are hungry, clothes when they are naked - and more. Doing this with "love" means doing this with friendship, doing it with compassion and seeing the facts of life experience in light most favorable to them.
Exactly.....but who is a friend? Is that the same as one’s neighbor?

Loving our enemies means not hating them enough to do them harm....even if they do harm to us. I doubt you can understand that position. But Jesus demonstrated it by allowing his enemies to put him to death in the most heinous fashion, without once retaliating or calling down evil on them....which he could have, if he lost the plot like you appear to be doing....he never put his emotions before his obedience to his Father.

We are not to “return evil for evil”....(Rom 12:17-21)....it puts you on their level, and leaves God completely out of the picture. Vengeance belongs to him....not us.
Christianity is NOT primarily a set of principles and theological doctrines arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin; it's primarily about relationships, having the orientation that you are everyone's friend. If friend is not included in "loving" people - even your "enemies" - then you don't know love OR Christ, who on his last night elevated his disciples to his friend. John 15:15
15 I no longer call you slaves, because a master doesn’t confide in his slaves. Now you are my friends, since I have told you everything the Father told me.
Again with the “angels dancing on the head of a pin”....what the heck? Do you fixate on things all the time or is this something new for you?

We can be Jesus’ friends if we obey him....but not if we try to alter his criteria as to what being a “Christian” means, to suit ourselves. How does Jesus feel about us, as he is our judge, not anyone else....?
Many are going to be left scrambling for lame excuses when that judgment comes. (Matt 7:21-23) They won’t be accepted.
God called Abraham his friend. Isaiah 41:8.
Do you know why? Because Abraham did exactly as he was told to do.....despite the fact that the requests were extremely hard for him.....uprooting from his comfortable life in Ur and becoming a nomad, living in tents.....being asked to sacrifice his precious son......things you seem to find difficult to understand if those same kinds of requests are asked of us. Christianity is the difficult path, remember? (Matt 7:13-14)

A “friend” is not always a “neighbor”.....the relationship is different. You don’t keep close company with people whose speech and conduct offends you, or more importantly, offends God. You love these people enough to want to give them a hope for something better to come...and an opportunity to become the kind of person God wants as a citizen of his Kingdom....but you wouldn’t want to keep company with them as friends if they showed no interest in changing their attitudes or conduct.

1 Cor 15:33....replying to those who had doubts about what Christ taught, Paul said....
“Don’t be fooled by those who say such things, for “bad company corrupts good character.” (NLT)

My spiritual brothers and sisters are my chosen company....why would I seek friendships with the world and its supporters? (James 4:4)

I'm proud to call God and Jesus my friends. That is, they are my friend and I am their friend. It works both ways. I do things for them BECAUSE of this relationship, not some esoteric theology!
Yes, it does work both ways....are God and Jesus proud to call you their friend, since your political ideologies are clearly in breach of Christ’s teachings....you are “part of the world” (satan’s world) if you support the ones whom satan is using right now to cause major problems for everyone....there has to be a catalyst for the great tribulation, so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Fear is again sweeping the world...why? And who is responsible behind the scenes in his world, creating the chaos? Can you not see the bigger picture? World leaders are merely his puppets.
My neighbor gave me the biggest compliment, that he observed that I am everyone's friend. As I said, can't get too much more Christian than that! If you don't get that, you're lost, just a noisy gong! 1 Cor 13.
Goof grief! You think being “everyone’s friend” is the definition of a Christian? I know good humanitarians who can boast about that.....and they are atheists. Your criteria is sadly lacking if that is what you think being a Christian means.....

If you can say....”I’m a Christian who foolishly stays at a church that rubs me the wrong way all the time butting stay to avoid someone using quotes.”
Does that mean that your church friendships are feigned....you are free and loose with your criticism of many here, but you refrain from telling your own pastor or church members how you really feel about them? Do you just pretend to like them so that they will like you back? Are you merely tolerating them?
What is your fear of “quotes”?

The world “rubs me up the wrong” way and so I stay away from it as best I can.....but our spiritual family are not any more perfect than we are, so we are not at liberty to change churches just because we like the pastor or his teachings or the people better...”love among yourselves” is the identifying mark. (John 13:34-35) Love is more than tolerance....it is a covering that does not let bad feelings destroy unity. Genuine love and fellow feeling prevents us from disliking them...(1 Peter 4:7-8)

.....and yes, I used quotes....I do it all the time.
 

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Oh! Aunty Jane! It's even "werser" then that! :anguished:
I've attended churches in the past where salesmen, insurance, reality, etc. go to a church, and some even get "rebaptised" so as to build up a client base! Then? When either they find no, or there aren't any left to be had? Yep!! They will leave to another, and do it again!
Are they ALL like that? Surely not!
Yet? As a PSA?
Yes indeedy Petey!
They DO exist!
Since God can read hearts, he is well aware of the charlatans.....there will be “many” who offer to Jesus their excuses when the judgment comes....but their rejection will be absolute. (Matt 7:21-23)

We just have to be aware of what the devil has done in this world, and be aware that our brothers and sisters are not our potential customers or clients....any ulterior motive will soon be evident and that person removed.

To be “no part of the world” means not to meddle with its corrupt politics...it’s greedy commercialism...or its false worship....these are all the devil’s domain, and we are told to be “no part” of it. (John 17:16; 18:36)

That is how you tell the real Christians from the imitation ones.....they are polar opposite to what the world is doing....and all the more so as the day of judgment is looming.
 
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line the walls and let all that has breath praise and thank the Glorious Lord . POINT to JESUS THE CHRIST
till the last and final breath leaves those lungs .
And always remember NO LIE cometh of GOD but comes of another who has always desired to be AS GOD .
And this other can act like it loves humanity and desires what is best for them .
but take heed and beware for its love WILL ALLOW sins and even UNBELIEF upon them . THAT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
For that end is DESTRUCTION . always REMEMBER THAT .
and now a word . HE who adds too or takes from this book shall have the plagues written it and their name REMOVED
from the book of life .
But satan is real sneaky . For he comes to say OH there is no such thing as the lake of fire
A VERY big AMEN! Satan LOVES it when his messengers convince people there is no eternal Hell Fire.

Take note STV.
 

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Since God can read hearts, he is well aware of the charlatans.....there will be “many” who offer to Jesus their excuses when the judgment comes....but their rejection will be absolute. (Matt 7:21-23)

We just have to be aware of what the devil has done in this world, and be aware that our brothers and sisters are not our potential customers or clients....any ulterior motive will soon be evident and that person removed.

To be “no part of the world” means not to meddle with its corrupt politics...it’s greedy commercialism...or its false worship....these are all the devil’s domain, and we are told to be “no part” of it. (John 17:16; 18:36)

That is how you tell the real Christians from the imitation ones.....they are polar opposite to what the world is doing....and all the more so as the day of judgment is looming.
Do JW's need permission from the WatchTower to quote Scripture?
 

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We just have to be aware of what the devil has done in this world, and be aware that our brothers and sisters are not our potential customers or clients....any ulterior motive will soon be evident and that person removed.
What needs to be conveyed is that younger ones' of any particular denomination are not to lose heart, or hope, and especially their faith because of people like this!
 

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Emphatically.
I love Christ. I do my best to love my neighbor, and I couldn't care less if that neighbor were a Jew or not.

And what the heck is a Jew anyway? Are we really supposed to believe that the people presently occupying and terrorizing Palestine have any genetic connection to ancient Israel, its laughable.

They're Babylonian Talmudists, and children of the devil. If anyone disagrees, they can take it up with Christ, as it was Christ who called them a brood of vipers, not me.
Revelation 2:9
“I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
Revelation 3:9


“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
 
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What needs to be conveyed is that younger ones' of any particular denomination are not to lose heart, or hope, and especially their faith because of people like this!
People like that are NOT part of true Christianity....God is the one who exposes them and has them removed from among the faithful....

Paul told us in 1 Cor 5:9-13...ESV...
“I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

It is the responsibility of those in authority to be vigilant with regard to members of the congregation, keeping a close eye on those who would exploit their other members both financially or sexually, or who are misusing alcohol or reviling others.....these are unfortunately common problems in many churches today.
God already know what they are doing and why. He will not leave them unpunished.

What I believe is a reason why removing the offenders doesn’t always happen until it’s too late (if at all), is because pastors depend on the donated funds of their church members to support them....that would obviously lead to a reticence to notice something that may force him to act in a way that might make him unpopular with his congregation, (perhaps accusing a popular member of some unacceptable conduct), or at least to turn a blind eye to ones who might be their largest contributors. Pastors in dwindling congregations are mindful of this.

No one should get paid to do the Lord’s work. Paul and others worked at their trade so as not to be a financial burden on the congregations they were assisting. (1 Thess 2:9; 2 Thess 3:7-8)

No one gets paid in my brotherhood as these are self-supporting and have no reasons to turn a blind eye to misconduct. This is not to say that they are perfect themselves, but mindful always of the fact that “a little leaven ferments the whole lump”....best to step in early and sort things out, rather than wait until there are casualties. Sometimes you can save the person from themselves.

The young ones in our congregations hopefully have more good examples to follow than bad ones. We try hard to BE “Christians”...not just label wearers and seat warmers. :IDK:
 
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People like that are NOT part of true Christianity..
Gee! Aunty Jane! Ya think? :jest:

Yet, it's people like that who turn honest seeking young believers against the church! Giving them an attitude or mindset that "If this church is like that? "Maybe there all like this!"
Undermining what little faith they may have had!

But, I get what you're saying.
That's God's job! :dusted:

Not Mine! :Ohpleze:
 

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And I have pointed out repeatedly that your claim of what Jesus said is false. John 18:36
36 Jesus answered, “My Kingdom is not an earthly kingdom. If it were, my followers would fight to keep me from being handed over to the Jewish leaders. But my Kingdom is not of this world.”

Nothing in that verse like have no part of the world! And your claim is absurd on its face. IF what you said was true:
  1. there’d be no reason for Jesus to come into a world we are to have no part of.
  2. he would not tell us to love one enemies - who are in this world!
  3. he wouldn’t tell us to baptize nations of the world if we are to have noting to do with it
  4. And certainly God would NOT have sent his son, why? To save the world he loves!
Nothing says love like not having anything to do with that which you love. You‘re basically saying God had his son die horribly for that which we should have no part in. Your claim is monumentally ridiculous on its face.
You can't be serious asking questions like this as if you don't know what Jesus meant.
 

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You can't be serious asking questions like this as if you don't know what Jesus meant.
I didn't ask a question. Jesus meant what he said, his kingdom is not of this world. A kingdom is a word that has meaning. It means a confession to acting treasonous to Rome and admitting he was a king of this kingdom, he was crucified for political activity named treason.
 

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Wrangler, what on earth are you talking about?......you don’t know me well enough to make personal assertions about me. Ask my neighbors and my spiritual family if what you say is true....
You are rejecting the idea of being friends with everyone is an antithetical to what it means to be a Christian. There is no need to ask anyone else about it. You have confessed. Witnesses are not needed.

A “friend” is not always a “neighbor”.....the relationship is different.

Again with the quotes! Vain attempt to make a distinction without a difference.

Again with the “angels dancing on the head of a pin”....what the heck? Do you fixate on things all the time or is this something new for you?

It's just a way to highlight your IDOLATRY in your devotion to manmade doctrine revealed by all your indoctrinated use of words via quotes. You know your ideology is not using words in their common meaning, meaning that although you use the same "words" you speak a different language, impose an indoctrinated sense of what they mean.

The command is to love your neighbor. Israel is our neighbor. One way to show love is to support.

For some twisted JW rationalization, you parse love as meaning not being a friend to someone at any point. We should support Israel as they are our friend. This conflicts with your “angels dancing on the head of a pin” doctrine. To dance around it, you have to write a dozen paragraph response all the time ... noisy gong.

That's how I'm going to reply to future 12-paragraph posts by you, noisy gong. Opposed to being friends with everyone based on your “angels dancing on the head of a pin” doctrine.
 
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You are rejecting the idea of being friends with everyone is an antithetical to what it means to be a Christian. There is no need to ask anyone else about it. You have confessed. Witnesses are not needed.
Anyone reading your replies here will soon see who is twisting things to suit their favoured political position....was Jesus in any way telling the disciples to rise up against Rome because they were suppressing his people? Jesus remained politically neutral throughout his entire ministry....so did his disciples until the foretold apostasy set in very early in Christian history. Back then Israel had no military and neither did the Christians.

It was the Jews who used Rome to murder their Messiah....does betrayal get any worse that that?

I think you yourself are confessing to an untenable position if you claim Jesus as your teacher.....
Witnesses not needed.
Again with the quotes! Vain attempt to make a distinction without a difference.
Quotes annoy you for some reason....they simply highlight a point or a statement that was made. Funny how our own words can be used against us....you don’t like being shown where you are wrong....and your knee jerk responses are telling......but that is entirely your prerogative. You respond as your heart dictates. (Jer 17:9)
It's just a way to highlight your IDOLATRY in your devotion to manmade doctrine revealed by all your indoctrinated use of words via quotes.
And what man made IDOLATRY are you promoting? You live in a nation that worships itself but that is so politically divided that it never even has internal peace, always seeking to fight wars anywhere but its own soil. Where do you suppose that kind of indoctrination comes from? Who rules the world that you are part of?

Look where we are right now because the USA can’t mind its own business....the state of Israel are no longer God’s people, and the whole world is suffering because of their decisions. Are wars the answer to everything? Or are wars the symptom of a nation that will stop at nothing to promote its own military superiority?
How is it any better than the dictatorships it supposedly hates?

“Returning evil for evil” is NOT a Bible teaching (Rom 12:17-21).....but you’d never know it.

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.” (ESV)

Who does vengeance belong to Wrangler? Not us.
If God is supporting Israel, they don’t need allies whose worship they despise....hatred for Christians still runs high among them.....but they will happily use their military backup and weapons.

When ancient Israel solicited the support of foreign nations in their battles, God abandoned them....allowing them to be defeated. At the end of the day.....all who are shedding blood today, will account to God for it.
You know your ideology is not using words in their common meaning, meaning that although you use the same "words" you speak a different language, impose an indoctrinated sense of what they mean.
What if it’s you who have learned a twisted language? What if you have justified what God clearly condemns? If you refuse to open your eyes to the inconvenient truth, then that is on you.
The command is to love your neighbor. Israel is our neighbor. One way to show love is to support.
Israel is your political ally, not your spiritual neighbor.
The parable of the Good Samaritan is useful here.....Jesus made a hated Samaritan the hero of the story and made the Jews the villains....why did he do that?
Because the Jews saw a human in need but passed by because the man had been robbed of his identifying clothing. Since they could not identify him as a fellow Jew, they walked on by because they hated the Samaritans so much that they would not help one even if the man was dying. They ignored him in case he was not a Jew. The Samaritan OTOH saw a fellow human being in need and provided the assistance he needed at his own cost. Is that what you see in the world where you prefer to live?

Jesus words in Matt 5:43-48...how do you interpret them...?

You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” (ESV)

When Jesus said that they “heard it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy” he was not talking about any Scriptural teaching to that effect, but the spin that the Pharisees had taught to justify the ill treatment of those they despised. Jesus taught the opposite. But it was never in a political sense.
The Jews were a spiritual nation, not a political one. They were the chosen ones as a nation, bound by the laws of God....and God was the only one who could sanction a war. He has not done so for thousands of years.

If you want to make Christianity a political football, you are making a grave mistake.....Christians are also a spiritual nation, made up of all nationalities who have made peace with one another because we have no political alliances that could make us enemies. We fight no man’s wars because Jesus taught us how to be “peacemakers”....(Matt 5:9) That is how you tell the real Christians....they are not up to their necks is useless man made political wars. They are innocent bystanders who let God carry out his own will, not involved in any of the nonsense that plagues this world.
For some twisted JW rationalization, you parse love as meaning not being a friend to someone at any point. We should support Israel as they are our friend. This conflicts with your “angels dancing on the head of a pin” doctrine. To dance around it, you have to write a dozen paragraph response all the time ... noisy gong.
You are a fine one to talk about twisted rationalisations....your own beliefs fight with the clear teachings of Jesus Christ, but you can somehow ignore all of that because of your chosen indoctrinated political ideology.
By even tacit support for the bloodshed, you are complicit.

That is your choice.....if you want to remain with your fingers in your ears, whistling Dixie....that is up to you.
Read this or not....matters little to me since I have done my job in warning you of the position you have taken....
 
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