Some will die today and be cast forever into the Lake of Fire

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Dan Clarkston

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Rev 20:10 teaches that Satan etc are tormented forever & ever

Everything produces after it's own kind so the children of the devil will get the devil's reward which is eternal torment.


do you believe a loving wonderful caring person who did not believe in Christ deserves the same Rev 20:10 punishment given to the devil ?

Yes. They rejected the Lord and chose to remain a child of the devil and they will receive the devil's reward.


List the verses that teach a person who NEVER heard the gospel is tormented forever & ever in the lake of fire

Lots of tares going around advocating for satan these days.

You should repent for this and ask the Lord to have mercy on your dark heart of unbelief
Unbelief is choosing to not believe what Jesus said about hell and those going there
 

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Everything produces after it's own kind so the children of the devil will get the devil's reward which is eternal torment.




Yes. They rejected the Lord and chose to remain a child of the devil and they will receive the devil's reward.




Lots of tares going around advocating for satan these days.

You should repent for this and ask the Lord to have mercy on your dark heart of unbelief
Unbelief is choosing to not believe what Jesus said about hell and those going there
Thx for your thoughts DC yet I'm simply looking for the verses that teach :-
"" a person who NEVER heard the gospel is tormented forever & ever in the lake of fire""
If you don't them then modestly say so :)
 

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Agreed but it doesn't say for ever and ever as does Rev 14:11, Rev 20:10
That leads me to believe that for ever and ever applies to the devil, the beast, the image worshippers and the mark takers only

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The destination of all devil aligned people is an eternal destruction as they are all children of wrath.

Ephesians 2
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

2 in which you once walked according to the [a]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,

3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

BUT WE WERE NOT THEM, God demonstrated His mercy and great love towards us saving us.

4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
 
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Thx for your thoughts DC yet I'm simply looking for the verses that teach :-
"" a person who NEVER heard the gospel is tormented forever & ever in the lake of fire""
If you don't them then modestly say so :)

There will not be one person standing before the Lord in judgement that did not have opportunity to get born again

God would be unjust to send someone to hell for rejecting salvation thru Jesus Christ without having had opportunity to turn from their sins and believe on Jesus as their LORD and Savior. Is your claim that God is unjust??? clueless-scratching.gif

Here's a few you either were not aware of or decided to be dishonest and chose to not believe (unbelief)

Romans 1:19-21
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Titus 2:11,12
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

Jesus was lifted up, so He either draws ALL men to Himself or He is a bald face liar.

Which one do you believe Jesus is?
 

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There will not be one person standing before the Lord in judgement that did not have opportunity to get born again

God would be unjust to send someone to hell for rejecting salvation thru Jesus Christ without having had opportunity to turn from their sins and believe on Jesus as their LORD and Savior. Is your claim that God is unjust??? View attachment 88445

Here's a few you either were not aware of or decided to be dishonest and chose to not believe (unbelief)

Romans 1:19-21
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Titus 2:11,12
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,
Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth ALL men every where to repent:

John 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.

Jesus was lifted up, so He either draws ALL men to Himself or He is a bald face liar.

Which one do you believe Jesus is?
""For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,""

IF
that is the case, then I agree with you
 

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IF that is the case, then I agree with you

Those that actually believe what God says in His Word know that this is the Truth

Those following false religions have been deceived by the devil in to rejecting portions of God's Word that does not agree with their false religion and thru this these people SEPARATE themselves from the Lord not having His Spirit.

The question for you is... WHY do you not believe Titus 2:11,12 ???

God said what He said and that settles it whether the tares believe it or not.
 
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Those that actually believe what God says in His Word know that this is the Truth

Those following false religions have been deceived by the devil in to rejecting portions of God's Word that does not agree with their false religion and thru this these people SEPARATE themselves from the Lord not having His Spirit.

The question for you is... WHY do you not believe Titus 2:11,12 ???

God said what He said and that settles it whether the tares believe it or not.
Titus 2:11-12
11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
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I understand that IF someone HEARS the Gospel, UNDERSTANDS the Gospel then REJECTS the Gospel then their eternity is not going to be good.
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Paul teaches how we SHOULD lead our lives once we ARE sealed & saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel that Christ Gal 1:11-12 UNIQUELY taught to Paul
Titu 3:5-7, Gal 2:16, Eph 2:8-9, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1 teaches the performance conditions required to be saved & sealed.

Do you REJECT those verses ?
 

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You said """For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to ALL men,""....IF that is the case, then I agree with you"

God's Word specifically tells us the grace of God that brings salvation hath appeared to ALL men and then you put the IF in your reply meaning you are not sure that Titus 2:11-12 is true.

We know who influences people to not believe scripture and his initials are SATAN :nnna