Spiritual Narcissism

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The Most Dangerous Narcissist You'll Ever Meet

If there is a spiritual narcissist in your life, think about the context in which you met him.

Jonathan explains that spiritual narcissists inhabit a world where people are trying to be more forgiving and understanding and where they're trying to learn—which makes people in this world especially permeable to influence.

Moreover, he says that "it's particularly hard to recognize because they can be so smooth and convincing—an Ubud-going person who can tell you about your chakras. They understand you. You've never had anyone listen to you this way before."

 

[Taken]

Guard your Spirit, or you’ll be as a city without walls.

I don't Take any kind of Drugs...moreso I use Natural Laughter. I think some people here get mad or frustrated. But I'm sure if others could see me...doing all my responding by phone and laughing out loud as I read some of these posts, they would wonder what's up.

I'm aware, and secure in my spirit...
God is Awesome.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

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5 Sneaky Things Narcissists Do To Take Advantage Of You

People who meet the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder or those who have traits of Antisocial Personality Disorder can operate in extremely manipulative ways within the context of intimate relationships due to their deceitfulness, lack of empathy, and their tendency to be interpersonally exploitative.

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It is no surprise, then, that the narcissist will probably begin a smear campaign against you not too long after the discard phase, in order to paint you as the unstable one, and that this is usually successful with the narcissist’s support network which also tends to consist of other narcissists, people-pleasers, empaths, as well as people who are easily charmed.

This smear campaign is used to accomplish three things: 1) it depicts you as the abuser or unstable person and deflects your accusations of abuse; 2) it provokes you into responding, thus proving your instability to others when trying to argue his or her depiction of you; and 3) serves as a hoovering technique in which the narcissist seeks to pull you back into the trauma of the relationship as you struggle to reconcile the rumors about you with who you actually are by speaking out against the accusations.

 

[Taken]

The Most Dangerous Narcissist You'll Ever Meet

If there is a spiritual narcissist in your life, think about the context in which you met him.

Jonathan explains that spiritual narcissists inhabit a world where people are trying to be more forgiving and understanding and where they're trying to learn—which makes people in this world especially permeable to influence.

Moreover, he says that "it's particularly hard to recognize because they can be so smooth and convincing—an Ubud-going person who can tell you about your chakras. They understand you. You've never had anyone listen to you this way before."

Agree- Some People ARE craving Flatteries, maybe have just not ever had a geniune attaboy and will fall for the charmer...and ha! The charmer Knows that.
It's like the Devils game...find a weakness and use it for an advantage to be wicked.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

@Taken Well, I know of a man some weeks ago who wanted to die in his own home but his family persuaded him to go into a care facility, where he promptly caught the virus and expired.

Oh no! Aw, I'm sure that is a toll on the family. Sad.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

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The Dangers of Spiritual Narcissism - Relevant Radio

“A narcissist is one who cultivates sort of a pseudo-reality in their life in which they play a certain role. Sometimes it’s the role of the hero. Sometimes it’s the role of the victim. Sometimes it can be a multitude of different roles. But they play a certain role that keeps them from dealing with the reality of their life as it is.”

If someone has crafted a false reality about themselves, then it is important that those around them buy into that reality. That can lead to lies, manipulation, and a justification of bad behavior when that reality is questioned.

 

[farouk]

Oh no! Aw, I'm sure that is a toll on the family. Sad.

Glory to God,
Taken

@Taken It's how it goes. Sometimes the family pressurizes...and then it rebounds on them...

 

[VictoryinJesus]

My wife and I have worked with the disadvantaged for many years, and over those years we've seen various mental, emotional, and personality disorders, including Narcisistic Personality Disorder. NPD is not being fond of your reflection, it is a progressive and dangerous disease.

I've recently heard the term, Spiritual Narcissism.

From an article in the Vancouver Sun:

Spiritual narcissism works in subtle ways | Vancouver Sun

“Simply stated, spiritual narcissism is the unconscious use of spiritual practice, experience, and insight to increase rather than decrease self-importance,” May writes in Will and Spirit.

Spiritual narcissism infiltrates our egos when we start to identify with “trying to become holy,” said May, who treated addicts before he began supervising ecumenical spiritual directors at the Shalem Institute in Washington, D.C.

Spiritual narcissism, May said, “makes the spiritual quest a self-aggrandizing process rather than a journey of deepening humility.”

The fact is, people have reasons for acting as they do. In some cases, this may have something to do with it. Just some food for thought.

Much love!

can see what you speak of in tearing others down to build ourselves up. Even the remove the log from your own eye. yet for some reason pointing out what every one is doing wrong and how they fail ....puffs up our own image so we don’t have see or acknowledge our own state; dependent on ‘It is of the Lord's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.’ Lamentations 3:22

 

[farouk]

can see what you speak of in tearing others down to build ourselves up. Even the remove the log from your own eye yet for some reason pointing out what every one is doing wrong and how they fail ....puffs up our own image so we don’t have see or acknowledge our own state dependent on ‘It is of the Lord's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.’ Lamentations 3:22

@VictoryinJesus This is a great verse!

Great is Thy faithfulness, O God my Father;
There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not;
As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be.

[Chorus]
Great is Thy faithfulness!
Great is Thy faithfulness!
Morning by morning new mercies I see.
All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

Summer and winter and springtime and harvest,
Sun, moon and stars in their courses above
Join with all nature in manifold witness
To Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love.

[Chorus]

Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside!

[Chorus]

 

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How to Recognize Someone With Covert Narcissism

Here are some elements of narcissism.

• Having a sense of self-importance or grandiosity
• Experiencing fantasies about being influential, famous, and/or important
• Exaggerating their abilities, talents, and accomplishments
• Craving admiration and acknowledgment
• Being preoccupied with beauty, love, power, and/or success
• Having an exaggerated sense of being unique
• Believing that the world owes them something
• Exploiting others to get what they want (no matter how it impacts others)
• Lacking empathy toward others

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...7/6-common-traits-narcissists-and-gaslighters

While narcissists often strive to make themselves seem superior and “special” by showing off, bragging, taking undeserved credit, and other forms of self-aggrandizement, gaslighters tend to concentrate on making you feel inferior through false accusations, constant criticism, and psychological intimidation. Both narcissists and gaslighters can be adept at distortion of facts, deliberate falsehoods, character assassinations, and negative coercions.

 

[farouk]

How to Recognize Someone With Covert Narcissism

Here are some elements of narcissism.

• Having a sense of self-importance or grandiosity
• Experiencing fantasies about being influential, famous, and/or important
• Exaggerating their abilities, talents, and accomplishments
• Craving admiration and acknowledgment
• Being preoccupied with beauty, love, power, and/or success
• Having an exaggerated sense of being unique
• Believing that the world owes them something
• Exploiting others to get what they want (no matter how it impacts others)
• Lacking empathy toward others

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...7/6-common-traits-narcissists-and-gaslighters

While narcissists often strive to make themselves seem superior and “special” by showing off, bragging, taking undeserved credit, and other forms of self-aggrandizement, gaslighters tend to concentrate on making you feel inferior through false accusations, constant criticism, and psychological intimidation. Both narcissists and gaslighters can be adept at distortion of facts, deliberate falsehoods, character assassinations, and negative coercions.

...whereas the Lord Jesus 'humbled himself...' (Philippians 2).

 

[Enoch111]

From an article in the Vancouver Sun

1. First of all the Vancouver Sun is as Leftist as all the other mainstream media in North America. It cannot shed any light on spiritual matters.

2.Do we know that the writer is a born-again Christian and has spiritual discernment?

3. Narcissism is essentially self-centeredness. Christians -- by definition -- are Christ-centered.

4. God commands Christians to be holy.

 

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1. First of all the Vancouver Sun is as Leftist as all the other mainstream media in North America. It cannot shed any light on spiritual matters.

2.Do we know that the writer is a born-again Christian and has spiritual discernment?

3. Narcissism is essentially self-centeredness. Christians -- by definition -- are Christ-centered.

4. God commands Christians to be holy.

Well.

I selected the Vancouver Sun for it's simplicity and clarity to introduce the topic. I don't know anything about them, and the article content is what I'm interested in.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a specific mental illness. It's not necessarily a "spiritual matter", however, it may have a profound impact on spiritual matters.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

I think demons are much more likely suspects.

 

[Enoch111]

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a specific mental illness. It's not necessarily a "spiritual matter", however, it may have a profound impact on spiritual matters.

It is very definitely a spiritual matter. And almost all mental health practitioners ignore the spiritual realm completely. The fact that holiness is a problem should be a red flag.

People have two choices: (1) Be self-centered or (2) be Christ-centered. Christians -- by definition -- are Christ-centered (if they are children of God).

 

[Stan B]

People have two choices: (1) Be self-centered or (2) be Christ-centered. Christians -- by definition -- are Christ-centered (if they are children of God).

I am self-centered. Without ME in my life nothing else would exist for ME, nor would it/they matter.

 

[Enoch111]

I am self-centered. Without ME in my life nothing else would exist for ME, nor would it/they matter.

If you are self-centered then you must become Christ-centered as a Christian. Paul said "For to me to live is Christ" and that sums it up.

 

[marksman]

@VictoryinJesus This is a great verse!

Great is Thy faithfulness, O God my Father;
There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not;
As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be.

[Chorus]
Great is Thy faithfulness!
Great is Thy faithfulness!
Morning by morning new mercies I see.
All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

Summer and winter and springtime and harvest,
Sun, moon and stars in their courses above
Join with all nature in manifold witness
To Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love.

[Chorus]

Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside!

[Chorus]

I remember that song and was singing it as I read the words.

 

[marksman]

I haven't studied this particular problem, but over the years as I have helped people back on the road to recovery, generally speaking, if there is a personality disorder it usually means there is a reason anchored to the past often in the family environment.

Satan knows that God has invested in the family for his creation and how important it is to him and that is why he is going hell for leather to destroy the family. If he can do that he can screw up society big time. He does not mind you getting married as long as you get divorced.

When I took my degree in Social Science at uni I learned a lot of things that were new to me. The course lecturer was brilliant and what he didn't know was not worth knowing. One of the things he pointed out was that children hate divorce. he said that studies show that 20 years after the divorce they were still suffering anxiety as a result of it. To go with that it said they hated blended stepfamilies.

The fact is divorce is a killer for children and should be embarked upon only as a last resort. For Christian parents, every effort needs to be made to resolve the differences so they can stay together for the children's sake.

One area I specialise in is homosexuality. They will tell you that they are happy and glad to be homosexual and that it is a great life. But it is all make-believe because they cannot face the truth. Every one of them have a screwed up childhood in some way or another, reflected in their inability to build normal relationships with people of the same sex because they develop the mindset that sex equals acceptance. No sex equals rejection and it if happens enough they are a candidate for suicide.

Back to NPD. It is the product of FSUD. Family Screwed Up Disorder so the important thing is not to focus on the NPD. Rather get to the bottom of the FSUD.

And when it comes to raising children, they would rather have you than things. In a seminar by Dr. James Dobson about raising kids which I attended he said that children love grandparents and when asked why they said because they always had time. Enuf zed.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

I'm a professor of human behavior, and I have some news for you about the 'narcissists' in your life