Split within the Southern Baptist Church

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Cassandra

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For you to be a historian, you did not note the wars and conflicts. When a village was attacked, who did the fighting? Men did, to protect women and children. When wars broke out who did the fighting? Men did. Men did what men did, and women did what women did. That still hasn't stopped. War broke out in Ukraine, who are fighting? That's right. Should men be ashamed to fight for his family and go to work to support them? Two working parents families started under President Clinton. A Christian man defends and protects his family, when did you find an example of the other way around. Still today, I've yet to meet a woman who doesn't want a man around to protect her.
Oh please! My parents both worked back in the 60s. some families did and some didn't
The last thing I want is a man around to protect me.
 

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All of mankind was cursed because of Eve in the Garden of eden.
Yes, that is what Adam told God. But "In Adam all die..." 1 Cor 15:22. Not Eve. Funny, did you notice they realized they were naked after he sinned not after she did?
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.
Jesus is the head of every man and the man is the head of the woman.

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Also, how many women do you have at your church teaching Sunday School? What's up with that? and does the above quote mean that women would never receive spiritual gifts like teaching, exhortation, knowledge, wisdom? They obviously cant use them, right?
 

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Thank you.
Women were the first at the tomb, the  first to announce the news that Jesus was no longer entombed.
Women have been the single most strength in many families over many generations bc men thought religion in homes was "fluff" to their " man-hood", and the
" little woman's" job to teach the children among whom were both whom were both male and female
God is a God of order. Man was made first, woman was made from man for man. The world is cursed because of disobedience and disorder. Eve was Led by her emotions and trust in the serpent...it was Adam's job to step up and keep her from the fruit..he didn't
Man cannot be independent from woman and woman cannot be independent from Man. Christ is the head of man and man is the head of woman. Women are to keep silent in church so there won't be anymore confusion. Men's leadership roles have been so torn down by society, it's no wonder we have confused children and youth in their role of gender. Satan is so sly and devious breaking up families is his number one head game and CHRISTIANS should know better! Read study pray for our children!
 

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Yes, that is what Adam told God. But "In Adam all die..." 1 Cor 15:22. Not Eve. Funny, did you notice they realized they were naked after he sinned not after she did?
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Adam was head over eve he was responsible for her actions. That’s why we all are cursed because of Adam. Satan's attack was on woman because she judges with emotion. How can a woman minister get up in front of a congregation knowing her role is as in the Bible is to not lead but to follow. We as Christians are the body of Christ who have many functions and gifts to use within the body. But there needs to be order. I've seen a church split twice because of women not keeping silent and interfering with decisions not their's to make. Leadership is through the head of the body which is Christ, then man, then woman.


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Also, how many women do you have at your church teaching Sunday School? What's up with that? and does the above quote mean that women would never receive spiritual gifts like teaching, exhortation, knowledge, wisdom? They obviously cant use them, right?
We all receive gifts for the good of the body. Women do teach children at church just like they teach children in the home. There is still order, Man is head of his family, they are his responsibility. Society has really gone south on this. I have seen too many families split because the wife wanted to be head, it won't work. It teaches our sons confusion over the males' role in marriage. It's hard to believe that Christians are so blind to Satan's tactics....sad
 

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Southern Baptists lost one of their biggest congregations last week amid tensions in the largest U.S. Protestant denomination over women at the pulpit.

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We need to lay aside our denominal thoughts and prejudices and  hear the word of God from those willing to bring forth the truth!
When we follow the Bible and claim it as TRUTH how can we be prejudice about the leadership role. How can a woman proclaim TRUTH when she doesn't follow in the order she was made for.
 

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Adam most likely had an obligation to protect eve. Eve was beguiled, but Adam sinned.

2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

1 Timothy 2:14
And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.


Adams sin -> into Eve -> On to Cain and Abel.

Semon -> Invades Egg -> out comes a child

What was the sin? Not consulting God, Partaking in what was not to be done -> Out of the Garden.
 
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