Standing… Survey… YES or NO………………?ONCE SAV-ED…SAV-ED FOREVER [OSAS)?

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Once Sav-ED, Sav-ED Forever (OSAS)


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Seems you are “TRYING” to make the “Point”
1- That “preserver” means To Keep Obey-ing
God.

2- That; Jesus IS Preaching “TO and FOR” the:
SAVED AND unSAVED “TO”;
“keep” obeying God, “to the end of their mortal life”.

3- That IF, they (Saved and Un/Saved)…DO, (Obey) …they Shall, BE Saved…


Is that correct?

Sort of. As you already know, God doesn't want to force anyone to be in Heaven or Hell. "Persevere to the end" means obeying God's commandments and overcoming trials/tribulations continually to the end of your mortal life on earth. When Jesus said, "He who perseveres to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13), He wasn't speaking just to those alive on earth in His presence, but to all those in the future in this world who would hear these words. And, He did not begin by saying, "But he who is saved and perseveres [...]" nor "But he who is unsaved and perseveres [...]" because it's only at the end of every person's mortal life on earth that they learn if they persevered in obedience and overcoming the tribulations/trials on earth or not, and thus reached eternal life in Heaven or not, which is why He said "But he who perseveres [...]".

Now, Jesus, being God, is eternal and omniscient, and thus from eternity has known who will and won't be a future inhabitant of Heaven, even before they were born. Regarding those He knows who will be future inhabitants of Heaven, they are not so because He has given them every means of becoming glorious and blocked all dangers of the devil, the world and the flesh. That would clearly be unjust. God gives them what He has given everybody. They use God’s gifts with justice, and therefore win future and eternal glory through their own free will.

God knows that they will reach this eternal glory. However, they do not know it, nor does God tell them in any way. The special gifts themselves are not a sure sign of glory; they are a more severe means to test a person’s spirit in their will, virtue, and faithfulness to God and His Law. God knows. He is happy to know in advance that a particular creature will achieve glory just as He suffers knowing that another will freely achieve damnation.

However, He does not intervene in any way to force the free will of any creature in order for it to reach the place where God wants everyone to reach; Heaven. Of course, a creature’s response to divine help increases its willpower. God opens up the more a man loves Him in truth; the love of actions, not that of words.

And again, the more man lives a just life, the more God communicates with him and shows Himself to him. It’s a foretaste of that knowing God that makes the saints in Heaven so happy. From this foretaste comes an increased capacity to want to be more perfect. However, man is always free to follow his own will and if after reaching perfection, decides to renounce the good done and sell himself to Evil, God leaves him free to do so. There would be no merit if one is forced to do something.

To conclude: God knows from eternity who are the future eternal inhabitants of Heaven, but man with his free will must want to reach Heaven using the supernatural help that the Eternal Father gives every creature. It will be like this until one’s last breath, whatever the gifts received or the level of perfection reached.

Remember nobody has ever arrived until their journey is finished. That is, no one can be sure to have merited glory until their time is over and immortality begins.
 
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I don't have any opinions about what the scriptures teach. I don't get to impose my opinion over what God has said, He speaks for Himself and you haven't pointed out any errors in my understanding of the verses in question.

You haven't identified the different books and who's name are in them and who's names are not. So you should start with a study to equip you with the knowledge of what the different books are for.
The BOOK is posted VERY CLEARLY in the scripture I've posted.
Does BOOK OF LIFE
mean
BOOK OF LIFE?

If not,,,it's on YOU to prove differently.

Seems to me it is YOU who needs to do some studying.....
your lame response is proof that you have no idea of what the scriptures I posted are teaching
and, as usual, the reformed always resort to ad hominums when they cannot reply to what is being
CLEARLY stated in scripture.

Why?
Because the reformed/calvinist belief system is not biblical,
is heretical,
makes no sense,

and cannot be defended unless one is speaking to a person that knows little about the reformed faith.
If a person is knowledgeable about the reformed/calvinist faith, it become difficult to post to them.

Exactly what YOU are doing right now.
Unable to respond to a post of mine.

I don't post OPINIONS Christian Soldier...
I post SCRIPTURE.

Unfortunately, YOU cannot deal with it.

Noted.
 
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Sort of. As you already know, God doesn't want to force anyone to be in Heaven or Hell. "Persevere to the end" means obeying God's commandments and overcoming trials/tribulations continually to the end of your mortal life on earth. When Jesus said, "He who perseveres to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13), He wasn't speaking just to those alive on earth in His presence, but to all those in the future in this world who would hear these words. And, He did not begin by saying, "But he who is saved and perseveres [...]" nor "But he who is unsaved and perseveres [...]" because it's only at the end of every person's mortal life on earth that they learn if they persevered in obedience and overcoming the tribulations/trials on earth or not, and thus reached eternal life in Heaven or not, which is why He said "But he who perseveres [...]".

Now, Jesus, being God, is eternal and omniscient, and thus from eternity has known who will and won't be a future inhabitant of Heaven, even before they were born. Regarding those He knows who will be future inhabitants of Heaven, they are not so because He has given them every means of becoming glorious and blocked all dangers of the devil, the world and the flesh. That would clearly be unjust. God gives them what He has given everybody. They use God’s gifts with justice, and therefore win future and eternal glory through their own free will.

God knows that they will reach this eternal glory. However, they do not know it, nor does God tell them in any way. The special gifts themselves are not a sure sign of glory; they are a more severe means to test a person’s spirit in their will, virtue, and faithfulness to God and His Law. God knows. He is happy to know in advance that a particular creature will achieve glory just as He suffers knowing that another will freely achieve damnation.

However, He does not intervene in any way to force the free will of any creature in order for it to reach the place where God wants everyone to reach; Heaven. Of course, a creature’s response to divine help increases its willpower. God opens up the more a man loves Him in truth; the love of actions, not that of words.

And again, the more man lives a just life, the more God communicates with him and shows Himself to him. It’s a foretaste of that knowing God that makes the saints in Heaven so happy. From this foretaste comes an increased capacity to want to be more perfect. However, man is always free to follow his own will and if after reaching perfection, decides to renounce the good done and sell himself to Evil, God leaves him free to do so. There would be no merit if one is forced to do something.

To conclude: God knows from eternity who are the future eternal inhabitants of Heaven, but man with his free will must want to reach Heaven using the supernatural help that the Eternal Father gives every creature. It will be like this until one’s last breath, whatever the gifts received or the level of perfection reached.

Remember nobody has ever arrived until their journey is finished. That is, no one can be sure to have merited glory until their time is over and immortality begins.
Great post !!
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When Jesus said, "He who perseveres to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13), He wasn't speaking just to those alive on earth in His presence, but to all those in the future in this world who would hear these words. And, He did not begin by saying, "But he who is saved and perseveres [...]" nor "But he who is unsaved and perseveres [...]" because it's only at the end of every person's mortal life on earth that they learn if they persevered in obedience and overcoming the tribulations/trials on earth or not, and thus reached eternal life in Heaven or not, which is why He said "But he who perseveres [...]".

Irrelevant to the point.
 

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Now, Jesus, being God, is eternal and omniscient, and thus from eternity has known who will and won't be a future inhabitant of Heaven, even before they were born.

Not in debate.

Regarding those He knows who will be future inhabitants of Heaven, they are not so because He has given them every means of becoming glorious and blocked all dangers of the devil, the world and the flesh. That would clearly be unjust.

God gives them what He has given everybody.

No.…some Body’s Life, some Body’s no Life.
No….”given” all living body’s HIS Truth.
No…”given”…
YES…”offered”… His Truth, His Body, His Forgiveness, His Salvation, His Seed, His Spirit WITH, His Spirit IN, TO ALL Living / Alive Body’s of men.

YES… the “offering”… has caveats, conditions, requirements, for all men TO…
Freely, Honestly, Call on the Lord’s Name, Testify From their Natural spirit (truth IN their Heart…), they Believe IN Christ Lord God Jesus AND willingly surrender their own Body Life unto Death, For Him.

YES… He Paid for ALL mens Gift. The Gift IS Theirs… TO “TAKE…..Receive, Possess, Have “….IF the man meets the “Conditions”.


They use God’s gifts with justice, and therefore win future and eternal glory through their own free will.

No.
They “Receive The Lord Gods Offering, by, through, of Their own free will TO Choose, To Testify TO Him…according to Gods ORDER and WAY…
God Gives His Gift. God secures Forever Their Salvation With God, the Moment He “Gives” His Offered Gift To a man.


God knows that they will reach this eternal glory. However, they do not know it,
False.

nor does God tell them in any way.

False.

The special gifts themselves are not a sure sign of glory; they are a more severe means to test a person’s spirit in their will, virtue, and faithfulness to God and His Law.

False.
Man has Opportunity, an Order and Way…
Hear, believe, doubt, wonder, believe some, doubt, keep learning, walk away, hear some more, wonder doubt, be blessed when believing, think it good luck, think maybe God is blessing him, get busy, not think about God, have a rough issue, try to figure out how to resolve, things get worse, hey, try reaching out to God, pray for guidance, things improve, man can feel lucky again, or might begin to Give God the credit….
* On and on in many mens lives the Circle goes…
* That is Called… TASTING!!!
* That IS in no WAY, shape or form a Commitment, or Receiving of Gods Gift of Salvation.

Study, Learn… Anything a man “TASTES”, he can SPIT OUT… or EAT it!

Eating the Word of God… is one of them, there , caveats, requirement….in ORDER to RECEIVE Gods OFFERED Gift!!.

And OF Course (Gods order and way) is revealed…not Secret…as you say.


However,B] He does not intervene in any way to force the free will of any creature [/B]

Your misunderstanding…
* God Routinely… INFLUENCES…by INTERVENTION….
* God Expressly… Uses HIS POWER… TO KEEP a mans “FREEWILL Choice of Truthful Belief and Submission…INTACT, that NO-ONE, can Change”.

You are proposing … a man can freely Change his Confession of Belief, of Submission….After “Receiving” his gift of Salvation… and THUS is “WARNED” to Keep persevering, to the End of his mortal Life.

Really ? Did you Make you Confession with your MIND or spirit in you heart?

Your MIND? Ya you can change your MIND, who cares… you never received Gods Gift of Salvation!

Your spirit in your Heart?
Really? Are you completely ignorant
*that …Such a man Surrenders his body unto Death?
*that… that man is given a new heart, new spirit that CAN NEVER deny God?
*that Gods Power is PROTECTING, Keeping a mans FREEWILL Choice Maintained… that no one, nothing can Change a man True Commitment?

You want to make a Wishy, Washy, Half baked Mindful “commitment” to The Lord God…
Have at it.. He is not listening To OR spiritually Saving, Quickening… men who Tell Him Mindful Lies.

The Sav-Ed ARE Sav-/Ed… their Salvation IS Secure. Nothing whatsoever…can revoke their Salvation….
Because… it is God POWER keeping their Salvation Secure.


More Caveats… IF’s
If a saved man…does works to Glorify God….he Shall receive Rewards.
If a saved man…does works that does NOT glorify God… his works shall be burned, and rewards he could have received will be forfeited. not given to him.


Remember nobody has ever arrived until their journey is finished. That is, no one can be sure to have merited glory until their time is over and immortality begins.

Remember … Jesus said… “it “is Finished”… his prepared body died.

If you don’t know what “it” is…?

Why would you believe After Jesus’ finished death…He rose up, preached and ministered for another 43 days Before returning to Heaven?

A saved mans salvation is Finished, Done, Accomplished… and like Jesus (mans Example), the mans Service to God Continues.
 

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Irrelevant? LOL If osas is true then why would we have to be told to persevere to the end? Its nonsensical.


Because “you” are “applying” a scripture to a Saved Secure OSAS, forever Saved man…

Which only “applies” to a Believing, hoping, unSaved man”.

Don’t find your ignorance at all funny… rather Sad…!
 

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Because “you” are “applying” a scripture to a Saved Secure OSAS, forever Saved man…

Which only “applies” to a Believing, hoping, unSaved man”.

Don’t find your ignorance at all funny… rather Sad…!
See when YOU have to tell me what scripture "means" thats just your opinion. The LAST thing God needs is you as his interpreter.

I find your pomposity equally sad but its more sinister as the silliness you tout pulls people away.
 

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See when YOU have to tell me what scripture "means" thats just your opinion. The LAST thing God needs is you as his interpreter.

Numerous times, I have repeated Scripture ON HOW God taught men can Understand Gods Word, Gods Knowledge, Gods Understanding…According TO God!

Not once have I seen you, mention, do, or Acknowledge “you” do as God taught that Concept…
So, you claiming, my opinion only, and ARE Ignorant of HOW to Understand According to God…I see WHY you are unable to Understand WHAT Scriptures apply to WHOM and WHY.

I find your pomposity equally sad but its more sinister as the silliness you tout pulls people away.

What you think is of no worth or benefit to me.
You preaching, God wants men to Not Know…Not Understand…is false.

1Cor.12
[1] Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

But as you insist…

1Cor.14
[38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 

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It addresses the heart of your point, which is that there's people already gauranteed to be saved on earth, and Jesus was speaking to the unsaved in Matt. 24:13.


Irrelevant.

Jesus never said that there was, nor did He say, "But he who is unsaved and perseveres to the end will be saved",

Correct. Irrelevant.

because it's only at the end of every person's mortal life on earth that they learn if they persevered in obedience and overcoming the tribulations/trials throughout their life on earth or not, and thus reached eternal life in Heaven or not, which is why He actually said, "But he who perseveres to the end will be saved". Therefore, you have a misunderstanding of other scriptural verses as well.

And?

Are you IGNORANT of HOW and WHY that does NOT Apply to a SAVED man?

Why is a Saved man 0n Earth “IS” Able to be Saved?

Ding, ding, ding, Is a mans Body CRUCIFIED
With Christ… Escape your Understanding?
That mans Body… is Accounted AS DEAD as any Mortal Death.

Do Dead Bodys Keep hoping, preserving?
Duh!

Do you NOT Know, HOW such a man “Crucified with Christ Jesus’ Body”…
Is Still able to Live?

You think you continue to Live in your old Sinful Body? You don’t!!

Did you miss the Lesson…??
You ARE a new Creature.
Do you think, that means, same old Sinful Body?


You Live IN Christ’s Risen Body!!
What do think…”IN Christ Means?”
Your same Old Sinful Body … ?
…that you preach is hoping and preserving wIll be saved?

Utter nonsense.
The Saved, don’t Hope to BE Saved…They ARE saved… They ARE IN Christs Risen Body… until He raises Up their own glorified bodies…Rapture.

:rolleyes:
 

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Numerous times, I have repeated Scripture ON HOW God taught men can Understand Gods Word, Gods Knowledge, Gods Understanding…According TO God!

Not once have I seen you, mention, do, or Acknowledge “you” do as God taught that Concept…
So, you claiming, my opinion only, and ARE Ignorant of HOW to Understand According to God…I see WHY you are unable to Understand WHAT Scriptures apply to WHOM and WHY.



What you think is of no worth or benefit to me.
You preaching, God wants men to Not Know…Not Understand…is false.

1Cor.12
[1] Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

But as you insist…

1Cor.14
[38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
You said YOUR truth. YOUR truth is less than irrelevant
 

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You said YOUR truth. YOUR truth is less than irrelevant

Yep, my Truth, I learned, agreed, accepted, claimed From God, His Truth, for my Truth…

Foreign concept…to you…? while you keep trying to Understand Gods Truth on your own merit… pffft.
 

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Yep, my Truth, I learned, agreed, accepted, claimed From God, His Truth, for my Truth…

Foreign concept…to you…? while you keep trying to Understand Gods Truth on your own merit… pffft.
No you said YOUR truth. No one cares what YOUR truth is except you. Its meaningless
 

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No you said YOUR truth. No one cares what YOUR truth is except you. Its meaningless

Uh huh… I also say my soul… yet all souls belong to God!

Anyone who has the ability to KNOW What IS IN him, Claims That …truth, soul, blood, heart, life, word, whatever as possessing, possessive, I, me, my, mine!

:rolleyes:
 

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Actually Christian Soldier,
it's rather blasphemous to believe that God created evil and predestinated all acts of mankind...
even sinful acts which makes God the author of sin.

Also, you seem to lack knowledge...
You seem to be unable to understand what JUSTICE means.
Could you give your definition of JUSTICE?

I doubt that you could.


Insults will get you nowhere.
To say nothing of the fact that this is VERY unchristianly of you...
and we know we will be judged by our behavior....
it would be good to know what Jesus taught.

GOD FOREKNEW...
is foreknowledge causal?

Note what is predestined in Romans 8:29-30
What is predestined is that we will become conformed to the image of the Son.
Predestination is always to purpose or method..
NEVER to the salvation of single individuals.

God calls: I hope you know that TO CALL in biblical language means TO INVITE.
God invites....He does not predestinate anyone.

Those whom God calls He also justifies, if conditions are met...
just as the NT teaches with many verses.

And those whom God justified He also glorified.
Hmmm....seems like it might be speaking about saints that have gone on before....
but we won't get into that.

You could keep on insulting Christian Soldier...
this is common to the reformed/calvinist believers.

Perhaps YOU will have the capacity to reply with scripture instead of your opinion.
I doubt that you can even begin to understand Gods sovereignty over all His creation. You don't believe what God has said about His sovereignty, so you presume upon the LORD, even though He warned against doing that.
You would be better off just admitting that Gods ways are far beyond your capacity to understand and simply trust and obey, rather than challenging Gods authority,
Satan does exactly what you do, He also questions and challenges everything God has said and done, so you're in good company there.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

There you have it in black and white, but you reject what God has said because you don't believe in the God who revealed Himself in the Bible, because you have created your own god in your own mind, thus braking the first commandment.

My definition of justice is, that God should cast everyone who was ever born into hell, because that's what we all deserve. But thank God, He chose to save a remnant for His own glory. And yes He chose to save them before He created the earth, our names are in His book of life.

To suggest that God didn't predestine every single one of His elect to salvation, before He created us is blasphemous in the extreme, because it is found throughout the entire Bible but you are obviously blind to the truth as you are under strong delusion.


Ephesians 1:4-5
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will".
Ephesians 1:11
"In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will".
Romans 8:29-30
"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified".
Acts 13:48
"When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed".

I know you don't believe Gods Word, but these are just a few verses exposing your demonic doctrine and denying what Gods Word has to say about the matter.

God's elect were not just elected to serve Him, we were elected for salvation, that's what the Bible is all about but you can't handle the truth. God never invited anyone for anything, to suggest something so stupid is utterly blasphemous.




 

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The BOOK is posted VERY CLEARLY in the scripture I've posted.
Does BOOK OF LIFE
mean
BOOK OF LIFE?

If not,,,it's on YOU to prove differently.

Seems to me it is YOU who needs to do some studying.....
your lame response is proof that you have no idea of what the scriptures I posted are teaching
and, as usual, the reformed always resort to ad hominums when they cannot reply to what is being
CLEARLY stated in scripture.

Why?
Because the reformed/calvinist belief system is not biblical,
is heretical,
makes no sense,

and cannot be defended unless one is speaking to a person that knows little about the reformed faith.
If a person is knowledgeable about the reformed/calvinist faith, it become difficult to post to them.

Exactly what YOU are doing right now.
Unable to respond to a post of mine.

I don't post OPINIONS Christian Soldier...
I post SCRIPTURE.

Unfortunately, YOU cannot deal with it.

Noted.
You post your perverted Arminian interpretation of the scriptures, because you have obviously been brainwashed by the demonic theology of Arminianism, where you need to twist every single Bible verse to force into your demonic Arminianism.

You foolishly believe that an elect Saint of God can have their names removed from the book of life. But, there s no such stupid thing anywhere in the bible. You just made that up to support your Arminian heresy.

You need to show me a single example of God removing anyone's name from the book of life, otherwise it will prove that you are under strong delusion.
 

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I doubt that you can even begin to understand Gods sovereignty over all His creation. You don't believe what God has said about His sovereignty, so you presume upon the LORD, even though He warned against doing that.
You would be better off just admitting that Gods ways are far beyond your capacity to understand and simply trust and obey, rather than challenging Gods authority,
Satan does exactly what you do, He also questions and challenges everything God has said and done, so you're in good company there.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

There you have it in black and white, but you reject what God has said because you don't believe in the God who revealed Himself in the Bible, because you have created your own god in your own mind, thus braking the first commandment.

My definition of justice is, that God should cast everyone who was ever born into hell, because that's what we all deserve. But thank God, He chose to save a remnant for His own glory. And yes He chose to save them before He created the earth, our names are in His book of life.

To suggest that God didn't predestine every single one of His elect to salvation, before He created us is blasphemous in the extreme, because it is found throughout the entire Bible but you are obviously blind to the truth as you are under strong delusion.


Ephesians 1:4-5
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will".
Ephesians 1:11
"In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will".
Romans 8:29-30
"For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified".
Acts 13:48
"When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed".

I know you don't believe Gods Word, but these are just a few verses exposing your demonic doctrine and denying what Gods Word has to say about the matter.

God's elect were not just elected to serve Him, we were elected for salvation, that's what the Bible is all about but you can't handle the truth. God never invited anyone for anything, to suggest something so stupid is utterly blasphemous.




It's 1:20AM here and am closing down.
So I'll get to your post in the morning.

Let me ask you this:
WHY are personal attacks necessary?

Do I attack you?
Or do I just post scripture to refute your incorrect theology?

How about cutting out the insults?
§That would be nice.
Maybe it's frustrating being a Calvinist because every other denomination does not agree with you...
but that's not my fault.

Tomorrow.
 
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You post your perverted Arminian interpretation of the scriptures, because you have obviously been brainwashed by the demonic theology of Arminianism, where you need to twist every single Bible verse to force into your demonic Arminianism.

You foolishly believe that an elect Saint of God can have their names removed from the book of life. But, there s no such stupid thing anywhere in the bible. You just made that up to support your Arminian heresy.

You need to show me a single example of God removing anyone's name from the book of life, otherwise it will prove that you are under strong delusion.
LOL
I posted a whole page's worth.

And I don't know what an Arminian is.
Is it someone from Armenia?

What could be more demonic than teaching that God created evil and predestinates sin?

You might want to reread my post to you number 278 and 282.

And...you should study up on the Book of Life.
There's a lot of information in post 278 that you might find helpful.