That government shutdown, over illegals getting free healthcare and the like

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Instead of attracting new investment, the mayor repeated the same argument he has used throughout the budget process: either impose new taxes on corporations or place the burden on “working people.”

This false choice overlooks the primary reason businesses leave: they no longer view Chicago as a predictable or safe environment.

No city has ever reversed economic decline by raising taxes on employers while crime remains elevated and public safety resources are stretched thin.
 

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The infrastructure of cities across America reportedly cannot withstand the influx of hundreds of thousands of illegals .

The Anchor Baby inducement doesn't deter. It encourages the influx.

It should be common sense. When you are criminals,you do not benefit. You suffer the consequences of your illegal acts.

No country on Earth is as weak in protecting their national border as is America.
Not only do we have a history of traitors in office that allows illegals to not just violate federal law but,reap benefits so to survive here.
Food,shelter,medical.

When I see Citizen Senior Citizens shopping for themselves and buying generic foods because they can't afford big ticket items,it's heartbreaking.

When their Medicare gets cut it's devastating to realize that elderly person worked all their healthy years just to scrimp by when they're now old and retired.

Seeing a 70 something bathroom attendant working to make ends meet,unable to work longer hours because their SS will be cut,is sickening.
.Especially when illegals are in line at the grocery with a full cart of meats and other high dollar food items. Paying with SNAP and WIC, and the balance due with fresh crisp hundred dollar bills

One Anchor Baby is in a car seat in the other cart,one Anchor Baby is holding onto Mommy's skirt, and the next Anchor paycheck is that round shape under the skirt.

And then Left Wing Liars in media claim illegals do not get paid to invade and breed here.

Anyone who works front end retail know better.left Wing Liars who defend criminality are of their father the Devil.

And we all pay the price.


 
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Strip benefits from illegals and their offspring.

I know someone who has worked since they were 16. They're now 63 and their Obama Care insurance has a zero premium.

Oh,wonderful!

No.

Because their deductible is $7000.00!
 

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My wife's friend used Medicaid for her daughter and herself. She found another name on her policy and called about it and got it fixed. However, this is how they are piggybacking illegals onto Medicaid.
Sounds like multiple felonies were committed. Medicaid fraud, lying on a gov form, aiding and abetting. If it is wide spread, could be RICO laws.
 
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Sounds like multiple felonies were committed. Medicaid fraud, lying on a gov form, aiding and abetting. If it is wide spread, could be RICO laws.
For some unknown reason, democrats love illegals more than US citizens. They should bend over backwards to help USA citizens.
 

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For some unknown reason, democrats love illegals more than US citizens. They should bend over backwards to help USA citizens.
I would say it is because the politicians don't care about either. Their politics are all about 'virtue signaling.' Helping US citizens doesn't appeal to the woke mob.
 
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Mayor Johnson is incorrect both in his logic and in his analogy. The phrase “illegal alien” is not a racist or mythical slur, it is the statutory term set out in U.S. immigration law for decades, describing a person who has entered or remained in the country unlawfully. Words have meaning, but redefining them for political comfort doesn’t change reality. Comparing that statutory term with the historical term “slave” is false and hurtful. Slavery was the forced ownership of human beings; illegal entry is a voluntary action that breaks established immigration laws. The two matters are not even remotely comparable. To conflate them insults both truth and history. Every person is made in God’s image and is to be treated with dignity, but that doesn’t eliminate accountability to law. Scripture also teaches that government is “the minister of God to thee for good… a revenger to execute wrath upon him that does evil” ~Romans 13:4. Maintaining the rule of law is not hate, it’s righteousness. What Mayor Johnson said rejects both the authority of law and the plain truth of Scripture.
Economics of both kinds of slavery?
 

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Read this and agree with it
Political Parties aside : I don’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican
I have been employed in the social sevices field since 2018. For 7 and a half years. Food stamps and Medicaid is literally my JOB.
1st and foremost undocumented immigrants have ALWAYS been INELIGIBLE for benefits. The first thing we are required to verify is citizenship or legal status. Please stop with the narrative that all the benefits are going to illegals bc that has NOT EVER been the case. I understand what you see on the news and in your “for you “ pages. But I am personally in these trenches 5 days a week. If you see someone in a grocery store with a food stamp card, they either have the status to legally get it, or they are using someone elses (which is an argument for another day) Just bc they look the way they do or maybe do not speak english, that does NOT mean they are here illegally.

Secondly, the majority of the clients we serve are white. This also should not matter, but since non-white people are being accused of taking all the benefits, let me also clear that up.

Thirdly, the majority of our clients are…. Shocker here, so make sure you’re sitting down for this one….EMPLOYED. That’s right, they work. If they dont, they themselves are disabled or have severely disabled children.The cost of living has in no way shape or form kept up with average wages. So yes, they need help. You’ve got people making $13 an hour when average rent in our area is easily $1k plus. If you make $1040 biweekly before taxes, one paycheck is actually less than your rent. And this is not even including utilities, car payments, gas for your car, and household incidentals like laundry powder, toilet paper etc. Dont even get me started on daycare costs. And heaven help our disabled clients that have to make an amount similar to this one paycheck, last for an entire month.

I say all of this to to basically break down that I am personally disgusted and appalled by all of the hate and belittling. A lot of y’all need a reality check. If you have never needed benefits then good for you but a lot of people do, and for good reasons that they are in no way shape or form mandated to explain to you.
The majority of people in the US have less than 5,000 in savings and that is being generous. At all times, we are literally one step away from needing the benefits yall are currently laughing about. All it takes is one layoff. One heart attack. A stroke. A car accident. Hell even an unplanned pregnancy can tip the scales out of your favor in an instant.
Im not ashamed at all to say there was a time where foodstamps and medicaid got me thru. I was a single mom, in college, and despite working TWO jobs at the time I still fell short. These benefits supported me and my son so that I could take the steps to build us a better life without having to worry if we were going to eat that day. Unless you’ve had to make a choice between food and diapers, I suggest you sit this one out.

People are scared. And rightfully so. If you’re so worried about “fraud and abuse” within the system, please feel free to start a business and pay your employees an actual decent living wage so that you can say you contributed to making a world a better place.
If you do not have the means to do the above mentioned situation, kindly shut the hell up, and maybe go donate to your local food bank
It depends on what state of the union you live in. I don't think you know the whole truth.
 

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Read this and agree with it
Political Parties aside : I don’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican
I have been employed in the social sevices field since 2018. For 7 and a half years. Food stamps and Medicaid is literally my JOB.
1st and foremost undocumented immigrants have ALWAYS been INELIGIBLE for benefits. The first thing we are required to verify is citizenship or legal status. Please stop with the narrative that all the benefits are going to illegals bc that has NOT EVER been the case. I understand what you see on the news and in your “for you “ pages. But I am personally in these trenches 5 days a week. If you see someone in a grocery store with a food stamp card, they either have the status to legally get it, or they are using someone elses (which is an argument for another day) Just bc they look the way they do or maybe do not speak english, that does NOT mean they are here illegally.

Secondly, the majority of the clients we serve are white. This also should not matter, but since non-white people are being accused of taking all the benefits, let me also clear that up.

Thirdly, the majority of our clients are…. Shocker here, so make sure you’re sitting down for this one….EMPLOYED. That’s right, they work. If they dont, they themselves are disabled or have severely disabled children.The cost of living has in no way shape or form kept up with average wages. So yes, they need help. You’ve got people making $13 an hour when average rent in our area is easily $1k plus. If you make $1040 biweekly before taxes, one paycheck is actually less than your rent. And this is not even including utilities, car payments, gas for your car, and household incidentals like laundry powder, toilet paper etc. Dont even get me started on daycare costs. And heaven help our disabled clients that have to make an amount similar to this one paycheck, last for an entire month.

I say all of this to to basically break down that I am personally disgusted and appalled by all of the hate and belittling. A lot of y’all need a reality check. If you have never needed benefits then good for you but a lot of people do, and for good reasons that they are in no way shape or form mandated to explain to you.
The majority of people in the US have less than 5,000 in savings and that is being generous. At all times, we are literally one step away from needing the benefits yall are currently laughing about. All it takes is one layoff. One heart attack. A stroke. A car accident. Hell even an unplanned pregnancy can tip the scales out of your favor in an instant.
Im not ashamed at all to say there was a time where foodstamps and medicaid got me thru. I was a single mom, in college, and despite working TWO jobs at the time I still fell short. These benefits supported me and my son so that I could take the steps to build us a better life without having to worry if we were going to eat that day. Unless you’ve had to make a choice between food and diapers, I suggest you sit this one out.

People are scared. And rightfully so. If you’re so worried about “fraud and abuse” within the system, please feel free to start a business and pay your employees an actual decent living wage so that you can say you contributed to making a world a better place.
If you do not have the means to do the above mentioned situation, kindly shut the hell up, and maybe go donate to your local food bank

Don't Agree With it!


Beware of any who insist on that in the first place.



 

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For some unknown reason, democrats love illegals more than US citizens. They should bend over backwards to help USA citizens.
it's like their effort at gun control. They push for that,they push for open borders,they're law makers that openly betray their oaths when enabling foreign law breakers,etc...because they don't have to live with the policies they push on us!

Gun control. While they're armed,and are protected by armed security.

Illegals. We suffer that.Because the law makers are all rich! And live in gated communities with roaming armed security .

They have full coverage insurance,private hospitals ,personal physicians.
We lose benefits because our tax dollars insure illegals have better care than we who have to pay for it.

Lawmakers betray us while they live separate and apart.

Years ago Pelosi said we have to let law breaking undocumented foreigners in. Because they do the jobs Americans won't.
Then, it was found out that dear old Nancy employed illegals as staff at her mansion.



October 31,2024
A Center for Immigration Studies report released today quantifies why Democrats support, or are indifferent to, open borders. The figures underlying the study may stun even the strongest proponents of border security.

The net effect of increases in both legal and illegal immigration in the 2020 Census shifted 17 House seats and 17 Electoral College votes, resulting in a net gain of 14 seats in Blue States — ten seats shifting from red states and four from battleground states. That Democratic net gain is greater than the respective electoral votes of all but ten states.

In part because districts with high percentages of noncitizens tend to vote Democrat, “of the 24 districts where one in five adults is not an American citizen, 20 were won by a Democrat in 2022. In contrast, the Democrat won in just five of the 54 districts where 98 percent of adults are citizens.”

Millions of illegal aliens have flooded the country during the Biden presidency. An indeterminate number — estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands — have been flown into the country by the Biden administration and deposited in certain jurisdictions.

Increasingly, Democrats needn’t be concerned about persuading American voters. They’ve gained electoral votes by the addition — strategic or otherwise — of illegal immigrants.

This is a “fundamental transformation” of the country.
 
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For some unknown reason, democrats love illegals more than US citizens. They should bend over backwards to help USA citizens.
Australia is in the same boat ! as is the UK !

What I see with the people who serve backup for illegals etc is that such people are so wealthy that they do not have a clue !
And that the likes of They do say, that they were or are Privlaged ?

But they think that all say white People ? are just as well off as them ?
So you see the promotion of such issues in government state allways say ?
The white people are all Privlaged ! it's all BS ! SOME YES for sure !

Most have to work for a living and try to buy a Home.

But who is it that gets a Home given to them and never worked a day in their life and complain 24/7.
I know plenty of such and they live the life of Pixies ?
Not to mention such peoples and all of their problems they rant on about all start with only because of themselves in fact !

I have a white mate who never worked in his life and he is on the Tax payers Tip all to his now 63yo and he lives better than most people do, like who can buy a Brand new good car because they had to ! I do not mind that he does, but I am thinking of all of the others who never could ! No he is Privlaged ! that's for sure ! but he does not see it that way !
So ok put him in the shoes of many others that I know ? who have worked so hard and not squandered ? He would be a total mess if he had to deal with a life like that in fact, could not do it in fact ! nothing wrong with his body but just bone dog lazy ! and a scammer. A sponge ?
 

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I sure hope most people on the Gov't dole got a lesson in life from the shutdown and "snap" was cut off. That's how fragile their life is for their next meal. Food banks ran low on food too.
Most of them look pretty hefty to me, none were starving.
 

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I sure hope most people on the Gov't dole got a lesson in life from the shutdown and "snap" was cut off. That's how fragile their life is for their next meal. Food banks ran low on food too.
And being this shutdown was timed to occur on the cusp of winter,those on the fe risked freezing. Because LIHEAP, heating subsidy, assistance, went broke too.
 

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And being this shutdown was timed to occur on the cusp of winter,those on the fe risked freezing. Because LIHEAP, heating subsidy, assistance, went broke too.
We have a saying in the south. A country boy can survive. That means without federal assistance, people in the country will make do under most conditions even banding to together for the good of all. The spirit of helping people makes everyone feel better. I wonder how 4.4 million ended up on snap anyway. I always thought the burden should be on the cities, counties, and states.
 

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We have a saying in the south. A country boy can survive. That means without federal assistance, people in the country will make do under most conditions even banding to together for the good of all. The spirit of helping people makes everyone feel better. I wonder how 4.4 million ended up on snap anyway. I always thought the burden should be on the cities, counties, and states.
The Federal Dole.
When Elon Musk was in charge of DOGE we learned billions of dollars were being stolen by corrupt federal employees.

Congress is a syndicate. The Democrats proved that with this shutdown.
Apparently, they had a come to Jesus moment when LIHEAP was found to be losing funding. Which put people's lives at risk. Especially babies and children.

When children risk freezing to death, there's going to be a trouble for those responsible.
 
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