The answer of hell and its origins

[Grailhunter]

It is due to your inability to enter the text - yes you can speak at it with your false teachings but opening it to give light is not known by you.

Hebrews 10:27 but only a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fury of fire that will consume God’s enemies.

Consume means they will be eternally forgotten never to exist in any form!

Isaiah 26:11 O Lord, you are ready to act, but they don’t even notice. They will see and be put to shame by your angry judgment against humankind, yes, fire will consume your enemies.

Maybe you cannot see the illusion!

Of course you can see this is not a literal fire but figurative of the destruction of the wicked.

Do you understand what figurative language is and how it is used throughout the Word?

F2F

Well that would be incorrect interpretation.....Explaining away the truth of the scriptures is one of the Jehovah's Witnesses honed skills....As one of the most recent religions it is funny that they think after all that time they got it right....but they did not.

 

[The Learner]

Been educated on it.....and something that some people call hyperbolic and that is kind of accurate. What most people do not know is the religious literary style of the time period....that confuses people because the Apostles would state things that were at both ends of the topic....that is why here on the forum people can throw so many scriptures at each other and both sides be right. That is probably one of reasons that there are over 30,000 denominations....You cannot understand the Bible unless you get a solid grip on the overall spirit of the Bible...Christ...and Christianity.

It is hard to explain....when I first got here I tried to explain but it went over their heads....So during a debate on a topic I would give both side all the scriptures that supported their beliefs.....but they still did not catch on.

Even Catholic Apologetists refute the 30,000 denominations claim. The Source is using a social definintion of denominnation. According to that same source there are hundreds of Catholic denominations. We both know that is not true Brother, freind. We Christians use a Theological Definition. I have even corresponded with the autor of the Source.

 

[The Learner]

We Need to Stop Saying That There Are 33,000 Protestant Denominations
The 33,000 Denominations Myth
Which of the 30,000 Protestant denominations is the true church of God? | GotQuestions.org
https://www.justforcatholics.org/a86.htm
https://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/a106.htm
The Church: Basics
33,000 Protestant Denominations? No! | Dave Armstrong
How Many Protestant Denominations Are There? the 20,000 30,000 numbers and David Barrett's statistics
Google 30 000 denominations source definition
Google How many Catholic denominations are there

 

[Grailhunter]

Even Catholic Apologetists refute the 30,000 denominations claim. The Source is using a social definintion of denominnation. According to that same source there are hundreds of Catholic denominations. We both know that is not true Brother, freind. We Christians use a Theological Definition. I have even corresponded with the autor of the Source.

Not at all....I say 30,000 but the count is over 50,000 worldwide. And there are not hundreds of Catholic denominations that report to the Pope. So you are wrong on both counts. LOL

 

[The Learner]

World christian encyclopedia

 

[Grailhunter]

World christian encyclopedia

It will take a deeper study than that to figure out why the denominations split from each other. There is usually a reason, not that there are not duplications with different names

 

[face2face]

Well that would be incorrect interpretation.....Explaining away the truth of the scriptures is one of the Jehovah's Witnesses honed skills....As one of the most recent religions it is funny that they think after all that time they got it right....but they did not.

The more I ask the more foolish you look.

Do you understand how figurative language works?

 

[Jack]

The more I ask the more foolish you look.

Do you understand how figurative language works?

I do. It's when JW's are saying Kingdom Hall is right and God is wrong.

 

[Grailhunter]

The more I ask the more foolish you look.

Do you understand how figurative language works?

LOL All ready explained that....little slow are you?

 

[face2face]

LOL All ready explained that....little slow are you?

No, I'll ask for the forth time.

Do you know what figurative language is and how its applied to Scripture?

To help you along you could answer either yes or no, or provide your understanding of how its used....you have done neither to my knowledge.

 

[Jack]

No, I'll ask for the forth time.

Do you know what figurative language is and how its applied to Scripture?

To help you along you could answer either yes or no, or provide your understanding of how its used....you have done neither to my knowledge.

Yeah, it's when Kingdom Hall says God is wrong. Happens nearly every time a JW posts.

 

[Grailhunter]

No, I'll ask for the forth time.

Do you know what figurative language is and how its applied to Scripture?

To help you along you could answer either yes or no, or provide your understanding of how its used....you have done neither to my knowledge.

I have already told you yes.....I am a lot smarter than you are.

 

[face2face]

I have already told you yes.....I am a lot smarter than you are.

O dear.

 

[Grailhunter]

O dear.

It don't take much to know that the Jehovah's Witnesses is a heresy against Christ.

 

[face2face]

It don't take much to know that the Jehovah's Witnesses is a heresy against Christ.

Agree...thankfully I am not a JW...thought I'd let you run with that mistake for a while...you seemed to like running with error.

 

[Grailhunter]

Agree...thankfully I am not a JW...thought I'd let you run with that mistake for a while...you seemed to like running with error.

So what are you debating.....as if I believe you.

 

[face2face]

So what are you debating.....as if I believe you.

Your contribution is confirming for me why so many Christians are in the dark and will not know Christ when he comes.

 

[Grailhunter]

Your contribution is confirming for me why so many Christians are in the dark and will not know Christ when he comes.

Well dark has a lot of people there.....got a flashlight?

 

[face2face]

Well dark has a lot of people there.....got a flashlight?

Luke 2:32

What's the figure being used here?

 

[Grailhunter]

Luke 2:32

What's the figure being used here?

You are funny....think I am going to play along?
Got one for you. What is the figurative in this....

Did you hear the one about when there was a Jehovah’s Witness and a Calvinist and a OSAS in a bar bragging about the last young girl they molested. They were drinking and laughing and sharing pictures of the little girl they murdered.

A guy sitting at the bar asked if they were not scared of getting caught?

They all laughed! Not a chance! We are in a democrat state!

The guy asked, Not even by God?

Again they laughed out load!

One of them said, I am a Jehovah’s witness, there is no Hell? I can do anything I want in this life….no punishment for me except oblivion!

The next guy said, I am Calvinist, God made me do it….so I am Scott free.

The last guys said, I got both these guys beat I am OSAS and I can do anything I want. I believe in Jesus so I am going straight to Heaven and see if there are any young ones up there.

The guy at the end of the bar bowed his head and said, So I guess it is up to me. And he pulled out a .45 and shot all of them!