(The Beast) & (The Two Witnesses) Will Be On This Earth Together For 3.5 Years (Then Cometh The End)

[ewq1938]

Agree, they will stand in direct opposition to the beast in Jerusalem. Which is important to understand.

So too will the two witnesses die in Jerusalem’s streets as Rev 11:8 states:

That's the two prophets, not the two witnesses which are defined as two olives trees AND two candlesticks and those are churches. Rev 11 clearly describes two people who are killed and lay dead in the street, not two persons and two churches which would be groups of people.

Rev 11 starts about the two witnesses then moves to part of them, the two olive trees/prophets.

 

[Davy]

Does the bible say where the 2 witnesses went?
Did the 2 witnesses continue into God's abode or did they come back to earth or did they just hang around up in the clouds?
Does Paul describe a rapture for only 2 or was he ignorant of this whole event?
When Jesus was caught up into the clouds, where did he go?
Did he continue into God's abode or did he come back to earth or did he just hang around up in the clouds?
Wouldn't it make sense for 'the sign of the Son of Man' to be parallel to something that happened to the Son of Man?

When I got asked by one I met to come to his house to hold a Bible study, a brother whom I had never met before, his parents believed a Post-trib coming, but his older brother and his wife were going to a Pre-trib Rapture Church, so my friend was in a family conflict. I went through the Zechariah 14 Chapter with them, which they should... have been taught, because it gives the detail of where... and how... Lord Jesus returns back to this earth from those clouds and all the Church gathered to Him in those clouds descending to earth with Him.

They were just as blind to that Zechariah 14 Chapter as many on man's Pre-trib Rapture theory still are today, nor did they understand, and probably still don't. Apostle Paul did not cover the 'where' or 'how' Lord Jesus descends and returns to earth. Acts 1 only hints at it with the two angels saying Jesus will 'come in like manner' as his disciples saw Him ascend to Heaven, from the Mount of Olives.

To put it more simply, the Scriptures reveal that the saints that have died in Christ Jesus brings with Him from Heaven at His descent to the earth. Then those of us still alive on earth on that same day, are "caught up" to Him and them, in the clouds, ON HIS WAY to the Mount of Olives on earth. The Heavenly dimension on that "last trump" of 1 Cor.15 is when Heaven will be opened up on earth for all to see, even those who pierced Jesus as written in Revelation 1.

And I think it hilarious with trying to mock me about thinking too much by my flesh obviously by someone who does not understand how in God's Eternity of the new heavens and a new earth is not about living off away up in the clouds, but literally upon the earth, where The Father and The Son will both dwell.

 

[Truth7t7]

That's the two prophets, not the two witnesses which are defined as two olives trees AND two candlesticks and those are churches. Rev 11 clearly describes two people who are killed and lay dead in the street, not two persons and two churches which would be groups of people.

Rev 11 starts about the two witnesses then moves to part of them, the two olive trees/prophets.

The (Two Witnesses) will be prophets returned seen in Revelation Chapter 11, they will being all plagues upon the world, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, they will be present on this earth at the very same time (The Beast) is in power for 42 months

 

[Truth7t7]

someone who does not understand how in God's Eternity of the new heavens and a new earth is not about living off away up in the clouds, but literally upon the earth, where The Father and The Son will both dwell.

Reformed Theology falsely teaches this existing earth will be (Renewed-Regenerated) a false teaching

This earth will be dissolved by the Lord's fire down to its very elements at his coming, it will be a completely (New Creation) as God's word clearly teaches below

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

(I Create) not (I Renew/Regenerate)

The very same Hebrew word used (Bara) in Isaiah 65:17 (Create) is seen used in Genesis 1:1 (Created) below

(Strongs, Absolutely To Create)

Isaiah 65:17KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Genesis 1:1KJV
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Strong’s Definitions: בָּרָא bârâʼ, baw-raw'; a primitive root;

(absolutely) to create; (qualified) to cut down (a wood), select, feed (as formative processes):—choose, create (creator), cut down, dispatch, do, make (fat).

 

[Truth7t7]

the new heavens and a new earth is not about living off away up in the clouds, but literally upon the earth, where The Father and The Son will both dwell.

Jesus Christ Warned His Followers, Concerning Him Being On This Earth In A Millennium (Beware)​

Sound The Alarm!

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium, this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[William Barton]

The (Two Witnesses) will be prophets returned seen in Revelation Chapter 11, they will being all plagues upon the world, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt, they will be present on this earth at the very same time (The Beast) is in power for 42 months

IMO:
The two prophets are Enoch and Elijah (who were both taken to heaven alive) calling down judgments upon the "land."

"Land" is Greek γη ( Revelation 11:10). There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times. This will take place in Jerusalem, in the Middle East.

Enoch and Elijah both rose to heaven alive (Genesis 5:24, 2Kings2:11-12), never having died.

 

[WitnessX]

That's the two prophets, not the two witnesses which are defined as two olives trees AND two candlesticks and those are churches. Rev 11 clearly describes two people who are killed and lay dead in the street, not two persons and two churches which would be groups of people.

Rev 11 starts about the two witnesses then moves to part of them, the two olive trees/prophets.

Do you have verses to back up your claims of them being churches? I test everything against scripture.

Trees are common terminology for people in the Old and New Testament…

Such as :

Isaiah 55:12 (KJV) For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap [their] hands.

Psalm 1:3 (KJV) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Ezekiel 17:24 (KJV) And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done [it].

So, when specific language is used to describe the characteristics of the two and what they will be doing during their 3.5 years, it indicates personhood, not groups or churches.

Revelation 11:3 (KJV) And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 11:4 (KJV) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Who are we grafted onto? Who are we branches of? Who is the Root?

Revelation 11:5-10 (KJV) 5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth

They are clearly people. The language is precise and intentional. We can further see this in the book of Zechariah:

Zechariah 4:11-14(KJV) Then answered I, and said unto him, What [are] these two olive trees upon the right [side] of the candlestick and upon the left [side] thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What [be these] two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden [oil] out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these [be]? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These [are] the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Moses and Aaron were Two Witnesses unto pharaoh..I believe that to be the typology.

If you have passages that support your claims please list them as I am genuinely interested in your thoughts.

These two witnesses/prophets are not to be confused with the 144,000.

 

[Truth7t7]

IMO:
The two prophets bring judgments upon the "land" (Greek γη, Revelation 11:10). There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.

This will the place in Jerusalem, Middle East.

The Bible clearly teaches that the Lord's vial plagues in judgement will be upon the entire unsaved humans upon earth, those who have the mark of the beast and worship the image, simple, clear, easy to understand

Revelation 16:2KJV
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

 

[Douggg]

(The Beast) and (The Two Witnesses) will be on this earth in Jerusalem during the same time frame of 3.5 years,

The two witnesses will be killed by the beast...

Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

So there has to be some time period that both the two witnesses and the beast will be present on earth in Jerusalem at the same time.

But that time period is not 3.5 years. For several reasons.

The main one being that the 1260 days of the two witnesses will be the first half of the 7 years.

So where does the common period occur on the 7 year timeline, and how long is it ? It will be 75 days long, from when the abomination of desolation is set up on the temple mount until the end of the two witnesses activities.

During that 75 days, the two witnesses will smite the earth with plagues (Revelation 11:6) , to give cover for them in Judea to flee to the mountains for safety. Matthew 24:15-16.

See my chart below of the two witnesses' activities. The 75 days period is on the chart down at the bottom.

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[ewq1938]

Do you have verses to back up your claims of them being churches? I test everything against scripture.

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Trees are common terminology for people in the Old and New Testament…

Such as :

Isaiah 55:12 (KJV) For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap [their] hands.

Psalm 1:3 (KJV) And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Ezekiel 17:24 (KJV) And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done [it].

So, when specific language is used to describe the characteristics of the two and what they will be doing during their 3.5 years, it indicates personhood, not groups or churches.

I know. I brought this up. The 2W being two churches and two people means the two prophets dying in the streets of Jerusalem cannot be the full 2 witnesses. They are part or half of what the two witnesses are.

 

[WitnessX]

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.






I know. I brought this up. The 2W being two churches and two people means the two prophets dying in the streets of Jerusalem cannot be the full 2 witnesses. They are part or half of what the two witnesses are.

One passage doesn’t make a doctrine and doesn’t give any justification to your hypothesis.

You don’t know, or would properly interpret the passages or give a proper rebuttal beyond one passage that uses the same word.

By your definition two churches are killed on the streets of Jerusalem. Rev 11 is mirrored in Zech 4. They are called two witnesses, two candlesticks, two prophets, two anointed ones, two olive trees, two branches. Scripture is clear these are two distinct people, not groups of people.

Revelation 11:4 (KJV) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

You conflate the 144k with the Two Witnesses.

 

[ewq1938]

One passage doesn’t make a doctrine and doesn’t give any justification to your hypothesis.

You asked for scripture to prove candlesticks represent churches. The proof was given.

The two witnesses are explained in the bible as two of one thing and two of another. Anyone teaching the twoi witnesses are only two people do not have it right.

 

[William Barton]

IMO:
The two prophets bring judgments upon the "land" (Greek γη, Revelation 11:10). There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.

The two prophets are described poetically as "lamp stands." They are Enoch and Elisha, both never died, rather they were taken to heaven.

This will take place in Jerusalem, Middle East.

 

[WitnessX]

You asked for scripture to prove candlesticks represent churches. The proof was given.

The two witnesses are explained in the bible as two of one thing and two of another. Anyone teaching the twoi witnesses are only two people do not have it right.

All believers are witness’s, that doesn’t mean they will all be in the streets prophecying in the great city (Jerusalem). Which is what Rev 11 is about. Once again, you are conflating the 144k who witness with the specific two witnesses in Rev 11.

 

[WitnessX]

The two prophets are described poetically as "lamp stands." They are Enoch and Elisha, both never died, rather they were taken to heaven.

They died…their flesh no longer lives. That means they died the first death.

 

[Truth7t7]

The two witnesses will be killed by the beast...

Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

So there has to be some time period that both the two witnesses and the beast will be present on earth in Jerusalem at the same time.

But that time period is not 3.5 years. For several reasons.

The main one being that the 1260 days of the two witnesses will be the first half of the 7 years.

So where does the common period occur on the 7 year timeline, and how long is it ? It will be 75 days long, from when the abomination of desolation is set up on the temple mount until the end of the two witnesses activities.

During that 75 days, the two witnesses will smite the earth with plagues (Revelation 11:6) , to give cover for them in Judea to flee to the mountains for safety. Matthew 24:15-16.

See my chart below of the two witnesses' activities. The 75 days period is on the chart down at the bottom.

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Read The Opinion Below "Real Slow" this time, read the presented scripture before your eyes douggg (No Charts Needed)

(The Beast) who is given 42 months Kills The (Two Witnesses) who were given 1260 Days Both Are Given A 3.5 Year Period, the very same time, and they're on this earth together until the final hour(s) of this earth's existence when the 7th Angel/Trump sounds (The End)

(The Beast) Kills the (Two Witnesses) they lay dead in a Jerusalem street for 3.5 days, the world watches then being raised from the dead as their raised to heaven they finish their 1260 days of testimony (The Same Hour) their raised the 2nd woe takes place in the Great earthquake, and the 3rd woe in the 7th Angel/Trump sounding comes even quicker (The End) Rev11:18 "Final Judgement"

Conclusion: (The Beast) & (The Two Witnesses) are on this earth together up to the final hour(s) of this earth's existence

Revelation 13:5KJV (The Beast)
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Revelation 11:3KJV (The Two Witnesses)
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Scripture teaches that armies surrounding a future Jerusalem will be a sign that Daniel's AOD is near Luke 21:20, this AOD will start the future 3.5 year great tribulation in the Antichrist proclaiming to be God-Messiah in Jerusalem 2 Thess 2:3-4

(The Beast) and (The Two Witnesses) will be on this earth in Jerusalem during the same time frame of 3.5 years, the two prophets returned will bring all plagues upon the wicked world so often as they will, as the Holy Spirit sealed Church is protected Rev 9:4, Eph 1:13, 4:30, a good description of these plagues can be seen in Rev 16:1-11, its going to be a complete remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt as the two prophets representing God will torment the unsaved wicked world

When the two prophets have finished their work on earth (The Beast) will kill them, their dead bodies will lay in a literal Jerusalem street for 3.5 days as a wicked world watches in celebration, because the plagues brought by them tormented the world, after this 3.5 days they will be raised from the dead as God lifts them to heaven before the world watching

After the two prophets are raised to heaven (The Same Hour) the great earthquake takes place as the 2nd woe is fulfilled, the 3rd woe comes even quicker in the 7th Angel/Trump sounding as the second coming of the Lord Jesus takes place in final judgement Rev 11:18 (Then Cometh The End)

Conclusion: From the time (The Beast) kills the (Two Witnesses) until the time the 7th trump is blown will be a matter of about 4 days

(The Beast) & (The Two Witnesses) will be on this earth for the same time frame of 3.5 years as clearly shown, simple, clear, easy to understand, (3.5 days + 1 hour + quickly = Roughly 4 days) = (The Last Day) The End

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 11:1-19KJV
1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

 

[ewq1938]

(The Beast) Kills the (Two Witnesses) they lay dead in a Jerusalem street for 3.5 days, the world watches then being raised from the dead as their raised to heaven they finish their 1260 days of testimony (The Same Hour) their raised the 2nd woe takes place in the Great earthquake, and the 3rd woe in the 7th Angel/Trump sounding comes even quicker (The End) Rev11:18 "Final Judgement"

This is wrong. In the text, it is the 3rd woe that takes place after they resurrect and ascend into heaven not the 2nd woe. This means the 2nd woe had already sounded before they had been killed.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is wrong. In the text, it is the 3rd woe that takes place after they resurrect and ascend into heaven not the 2nd woe. This means the 2nd woe had already sounded before they had been killed.

Rev 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
Rev 11:14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

False

In (The Same Hour) after the (Two Witnesses) are raised from the dead and called up to the heavens the 2nd woe takes place and is past in the Great earthquake, and the 3rd woe comes "Quickly" in the 7th Angel/Trump Rev 11:15 (The End) Rev 11:18 (The Final Judgement)

 

[William Barton]

You conflate the 144k with the Two Witnesses.

IMO:

The context here is a vision of the apostle John that is to be delivered to the seven churches in "Asia" (i.e. Turkey).

The two witnesses (Revelation 11:4) are Enoch and Elijah, who never died. They were both taken to heaven (Hebrews 11:5, 2Kings 2:11), waiting to be called to this future service.

 

[WitnessX]

IMO:

The context here is a vision of the apostle John that is to be delivered to the seven churches in "Asia" (i.e. Turkey).

The two witnesses (Revelation 11:4) are Enoch and Elijah, who never died. They were both taken to heaven (Hebrews 11:5, 2Kings 2:11), waiting to be called to this future service.

Once again, their flesh died..it no longer exists. They experienced the first death, just in a different manner than almost everyone else. So your opinion that they didn’t die so they must be the two end time prophets simply isn’t accurate. Their flesh and bones died…

They are the typology of the “changed in the twinkling of the eye” for those who are alive and remain.

That’s why John the Baptist came in the Spirit and power of Elijah at the first coming of Jesus Christ and not in the physical body because it no longer exists…

The key here is the Spirit that empowered Elijah is the Holy Spirit, which can make anyone He chooses have the same power and gifts that Elijah had. There is zero evidence or scripture that support the two prophets being a translated Enoch and Elijah, when the typology is a different person like John the Baptist operating in the Spirit of.

There is no reason, given John’s heralding at the first coming, to go off on a completely different typology that doesn’t exist anywhere in The Word for the second coming.