Philip James
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Hello robert,
Our 'Catholic founders' conquered those pagan religions with the Gospel!
And Malachi 1:11 is fulfilled!
You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!
Peace be with you!
The 'blessed virgin Mary'
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Hello robert,
Our 'Catholic founders' conquered those pagan religions with the Gospel!
And Malachi 1:11 is fulfilled!
You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!
Peace be with you!
2 Samuel 6:23 tells us: Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child UNTIL the day of her death.
And so, in the end, they must always lie about Scripture in order to keep their false doctrine.
Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
The good thing about hiding the scriptures in our hearts, is that we can spot a lie of the devil by manipulation of Scripture right off.
Basic English grammar is still basic English grammar:
Joseph knew not his wife, until Jesus was born.
And Michael had no children unto her death.
If Scripture had said a woman had no children until her death, then Scripture would have been speaking of a mother dying in childbirth.
But of course, Scripture didn't say that about Michael. The one saying that is a liar, because the truth is not in them.
Our 'Catholic founders' conquered those pagan religions with the Gospel!
And so, you acknowledge your Catholic 'founders'.
Not Jesus Christ.
Your Catholic founders covered the pagan religion of Rome with Christian names and types, in order to salvage their ancient worship of Saturn and the Virgin Mother Vesta and Sacred Hearth-Womb of fire.
You give lip service to Scripture, while holding fervently to the Sacred traditions of ancient Rome.
So, no thanks. I'm not interested in your mystical adultery.
First born does not imply a second born. An only child is still first born!
Sigh. Believe me. I am not surprised by your complete loss of rational intelligence. It is the natural result of feverishly clinging to mystically Sacred traditions.
But in the realm of reality, there is only a 'firstborn', when there are others born thereafter.
Otherwise, they are called 'only born' or 'only begotten'.
And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth...
And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old...
And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn...
And Laban said, It must not be so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn.
The sons of Leah; Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, and Simeon, and Levi, and Judah, and Issachar, and Zebulun...
And they sat before him, the firstborn according to his birthright, and the youngest according to his youth...
And unto David were sons born in Hebron: and his firstborn was Amnon...
And Jesse begat his firstborn Eliab, and Abinadab the second, and Shimma the third...
Etc, etc, etc...
Jesus being the firstborn of Mary, and yet the only begotten of God, proves Mary had other children after Jesus.
Good job at disproving your own sacred tradition.
I don't know much about what a Berean is...I am ashamed to admit that...i guess I better educate myself.@Heart2Soul A true Berean spirit, right?(Acts 17.11).
actually you do believe at least 85 percent of catholic dogma
why do you believe the rule of faith for Christians is the “Bible alone”?
where does the Bible say so?
the dwelling place of God is Holy!
God dwelt in Mary for 9 months
the ark of the covenant was Gods dwelling place it has to be holy so Mary has to be immaculate and holy
Ark of the new covenant!
The dwelling place of God!
God dwelt in Mary’s womb for 9 months, remember the ark was incorruptible wood covered with pure gold signifying Mary’s immaculate purity!
read exodus or any place in the Old Testament where something came into contact with God or was consecrated to the service of God it had to be pure and Holy!
In the ark was the word of God!
In Mary the new ark is the living Word!
In the ark was the mana!
In Mary was the bread come down from heaven! Jn 6
Bethlehem means house to of bread!
Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, (Isa 7:14) and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Philip James
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Of course! The apostles, and those who were united with them. Men like Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, Cyprian... Do you want an exhaustive list?
How disingenuous can one get?
Christ and His Church are one! You reject it at your peril..
Lies, lies, lies... I suggest you familiarize yourself with the history of the Church..
I can name 3, 2000 year old witnesses to the Sacred Traditions of the apostles:
The Church in Rome, the Church in Alexandria and the Church in Constantinople..
Where's your 2000 year old community that teaches otherwise?
But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
Pax!
I.e. "ok, I lied about 2 Sam 6:23, but I can still play on Luke 1:34!"
The birth of Jesus by a virgin through the work of the Spirit is Scripture.
Mary doing the work by her own immaculate sacredness is old roman religion of Vesta with a twist from wrested Scripture.
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Ark of the new covenant!
The dwelling place of God!
God dwelt in Mary’s womb for 9 months, remember the ark was incorruptible wood covered with pure gold signifying Mary’s immaculate purity!
read exodus or any place in the Old Testament where something came into contact with God or was consecrated to the service of God it had to be pure and Holy!
In the ark was the word of God!
In Mary the new ark is the living Word!
In the ark was the mana!
In Mary was the bread come down from heaven! Jn 6
Bethlehem means house to of bread!
This has become child's play. These people are as children in the market playing at being adults. It is 3rd maybe 4th grade level myth-making.
1. Scripture never speaks of God 'dwelling' in the ark of the covenant. He came down and sat upon the mercy seat upon the ark to speak with Moses face to face in the wilderness.
He does however dwell in His temple, which is now the body of Christ.
2. No Scripture speaks of a babe 'dwelling' in the womb of the mother.
3. The ark was not called holy, but rather the ark was in the most holy place of the tabernacle and temple of God, along with the mercy seat.
Mary is never called holy, neither her womb called sacred.
4. Jesus is the manna and bread come down from heaven, after being separated from His mother's womb.
Neither Jesus nor Mary is Bethlehem.
This is all pseudo-scriptural mysticism of the 3rd grade level, in order to reincarnate old Roman Vesta worship into Mary idolatry, and thus shroud it in christian garb.
This would be the true shroud of Turin.
The dwelling place of God!
God dwelt in Mary’s womb for 9 months, remember the ark was incorruptible wood covered with pure gold signifying Mary’s immaculate purity!
read exodus or any place in the Old Testament where something came into contact with God or was consecrated to the service of God it had to be pure and Holy!
In the ark was the word of God!
In Mary the new ark is the living Word!
In the ark was the mana!
In Mary was the bread come down from heaven! Jn 6
Bethlehem means house to of bread!
This has become child's play. These people are as children in the market playing at being adults. It is 3rd maybe 4th grade level myth-making.
1. Scripture never speaks of God 'dwelling' in the ark of the covenant. He came down and sat upon the mercy seat upon the ark to speak with Moses face to face in the wilderness.
He does however dwell in His temple, which is now the body of Christ.
2. No Scripture speaks of a babe 'dwelling' in the womb of the mother.
3. The ark was not called holy, but rather the ark was in the most holy place of the tabernacle and temple of God, along with the mercy seat.
Mary is never called holy, neither her womb called sacred.
4. Jesus is the manna and bread come down from heaven, after being separated from His mother's womb.
Neither Jesus nor Mary is Bethlehem.
This is all pseudo-scriptural mysticism of the 3rd grade level, in order to reincarnate old Roman Vesta worship into Mary idolatry, and thus shroud it in christian garb.
This would be the true shroud of Turin.
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In Mary was the bread come down from heaven!
And so Mary is supreme in the end. Without being in her, no Christ, no Son of God, no Saviour and Redeemer.
And so, the Roman Catholic religion was never about Jesus being the Christ, and then bringing in pagan worship of Vesta as Mary Mother of God.
The Roman Catholic religion was never about Christianity, but always about using the cover of 'christian' things in order to salvage and maintain the religion of Rome.
Mary worship is not just a sideshow of the Roman Catholic religion, but is the Sacred hearth and fire of it, the Sacred Womb, from which 'christ' is the sideshow to lure in the deceived.
And so Mary is supreme in the end. Without being in her, no Christ, no Son of God, no Saviour and Redeemer.
And so, the Roman Catholic religion was never about Jesus being the Christ, and then bringing in pagan worship of Vesta as Mary Mother of God.
The Roman Catholic religion was never about Christianity, but always about using the cover of 'christian' things in order to salvage and maintain the religion of Rome.
Mary worship is not just a sideshow of the Roman Catholic religion, but is the Sacred hearth and fire of it, the Sacred Womb, from which 'christ' is the sideshow to lure in the deceived.
Do you want an exhaustive list?
And become like you? No thanks. I prefer to remain fresh and free from exhaustive lists that never acknowledge the truth.
Christ and His Church are one!
True. Jesus and His church He builds is one body. And He is not one to sit at the table of devils and drink from their cup. Neither do members of His body.
You reject it at your peril...
I quake and tremble. Good thing your religion has been gutted of inquisitional power. But, the spirit remains for perhaps some future date to rise again in all your beastly fury. But, in the meantime, the mouse that roars is a joke.
Lies, lies, lies... I suggest you familiarize yourself with the history of the Church..
I have, and with your help I have also become familiar with your religion's founding, for purposes of salvaging the old religion of Rome.
It is you that are deceived about your own religion. You cannot drink from the cup of the Lord and that of Vesta-Mary, and have any faith and fellowship in Jesus Christ.
I can name 3, 2000 year old witnesses to the Sacred Traditions of the apostles: The Church in Rome, the Church in Alexandria and the Church in Constantinople..
You can name them all you want, and if they teach what you believe, then they are as false as the name 'Mary Mother of God'.
There are no Sacred traditions of the apostles of Jesus Christ. Only the traditions of the gospel taught according to the holy Scriptures.
Where's your 2000 year old community that teaches otherwise?
It's called the Bible. Which you corrupt at your own peril.
But hey. That's your choice.
Pax!
Pretty much says it all: Pax Romana.
This is getting too easy.
If there is any Catholic dogma pulled out of Scripture for purpose of covering the religion of Rome, such as Jesus was born of a virgin, then I do believe the Scriptures, but not the dogma of the Roman religion that falsely uses Scripture.
And upon reading all your dogma from your people, then Sola Scriptura is an inherent wisdom for the soul.
Oh no it is God who made her immaculate Lk 1:49
sam is still true
There’s also Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Philip James
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Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.
Brother,
You really need to try and stop standing in the place of the accusor of your brethren..
Rather:
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things
Consider the Incarnation!
The Author of Life, born as a human boy child... And all creation stands in awe and marvels..
One could spend years just contemplating this...
Pax et Bonum!
Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.
Brother, You really need to try and stop standing in the place of the accusor of your brethren..
As I said: "There are no Sacred traditions of the apostles of Jesus Christ. Only the traditions of the gospel taught according to the holy Scriptures."
I.e. The Sacred traditions of the religion of Rome are not those of the apostles in Scripture.
I am not brother to the Roman religion of the Mother of God Vesta, called Mary of the Sacred Womb.
You keep your Sacred religion of ancient Rome, and I'll stick with the pure religion of the Scriptures only.
Consider the Incarnation! The Author of Life, born as a human boy child... And all creation stands in awe and marvels..
Jesus born of a virgin is Scripture. Mother of God immaculated in her own Sacredness is not.
As I said: You hold to your Sacred traditions of Rome and pseudo-christianity, and I'll keep the traditions written by the apostles of Jesus.
As I said: the Spirit of God overshadowing the woman, and the holy child born of a virgin thereby.
And the woman and her husband not confirming the marriage bed, until after His birth.
