The broad spectrum of Christianity VERSUS the narrow-minded view
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David in NJ
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Narrow Path = Narrow Minded = GOSPEL
Wide Path = Open Minded = Serpent Speak
The Son Says: "Wide is the path and crooked is the way that leads to destruction"
In my profession/trade the "narrow minded" live long and healthy.
Failure to obey the "narrow minded" practice/operation leads to serious injury and/or death.
The Son Says: "Unless you believe IAM HE, you will die in your sins"
The Serpent says: "You will not die"
The FATHER Says: "All who do not honor/bow the knee and confess with the tongue that Jesus Christ is LORD will perish."
The Serpent says: "All who receive the Mark will have peace and prosperity"
The Holy Spirit Says: "All who receive the Mark will have their place in the Lake of Fire"
The Serpent says: "Kill all who refuse the Mark, for they have caused all the trouble/wars in world history."
Choices to make!!!
Whom to believe???
Eternity weighs these choices................One Way or the other
@Bob
narrow-minded /năr′ō-mīn′dĭd/
adjective
- Lacking tolerance, breadth of view, or sympathy; petty.
- Of narrow mental scope; lacking tolerance or breadth of view; illiberal; mean.
- Opposite of broad-minded, open-minded, liberal.
adjective
- Receptive to new and different ideas or the opinions of others.
"remained open-minded on the issue." - Ready to entertain new ideas. Contrasted with closed-minded.
Aunty Jane
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What does Scripture say?
Why was restriction necessary? It plainly states the destination of both paths, and the majority accept the easy one because it imposes few restrictions on them. Those who choose the road to life are in for a difficult journey.....do you understand why? And who it is that make the journey easy or difficult? It isn’t God. (James 1:13-15)
“Sport”? You really think God has nothing better to do than play games with our lives?
He is testing our faith and seeing whether we will fall for the devil’s lies, painting the Creator in the worst possible light so that we, in our fallen state, will be easy pickings for the one pointing accusing fingers at his own Creator. (Prov 27:11)
Salvation is what happened in Noah’s day......God did not “save” Noah and his family.....Noah’s faith and obedience in amongst an extremely wicked world, meant that he followed God’s instructions on how to save himself. If Noah had not been obedient to that extent, he would not have survived the flood either. He set an important example because Jesus used that situation to illustrate what was going to happen again. (Matt 24:37-39)
Was what God asked of Noah easy or very difficult?
Wow!....here is the clay telling the Potter that he didn’t do it right....(Jer 18:3-6; Rom 9:20)
Our Creator responds to our free willed choices.....he will not force himself on anyone, but as the Sovereign over all creation, he has the right to do whatever he pleases, and he does not need “remodelling” to suit the will of fallen men. He is who he is, and always has been....trying to water down his word and turn him into your own version of him, is a waste of your time and energy. You will find that out sooner or later....let’s hope it’s sooner.
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The view of the "Gentleman God" who honors human will above His own.
"The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [a]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9 NKJV In regards to "free-will", I have often heard the argument that God, being the gentleman...
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What they were on about was Narrow minded ? was the way.
A brord minded person has the ability to understand the bigger picture ! and a narrow minded view lacks much comprehention in fact !
But the Way, is a clearly Narrow Path ! for wide leads to destruction.
To bring one to Christ Jesus, one needs to have a wide view to accept people in to the Church, because they are Lost !
All Radical religious make demands on all too follow with out questioning, just believe what they demand ! so called christianity can be in this band, I have seen such idiots ! not to mention another types that is not radical but Lukewarm day dreaming say type who just swallow it all.
As for the Saints, one should take note. They were not cowards nor dupes, they all started off on the wrong foot but learned The Way, They were never goodie goodies in fact.
Goodie two shoes are always an abomination for they clearly lack Virtue !
The Saints never suger coat anything ! and they do not tempt people into delusions nor playing the Holy that thou cards.
For the wagers of Sin is death !
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Aunty Jane
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“Not willing” doesn’t mean that he will tolerate unrepentant wrongdoing....it means he does not want to destroy anyone, but his will is that none should “perish”....what does “perish” mean? Look it up.
Free will is entirely free, but it’s consequences are not. Those consequences are clearly stated before any of his intelligent creation take a step in the wrong direction. Free will is exercised in full knowledge of the penalty, so how does anyone complain that it’s “not fair”? Obedience means you have nothing to fear.
Yes, he give us more than enough time to get to know him and to understand why he has allowed the devil a relatively free hand to undo our faith and relationship with our Maker. A test to see who gets the message that those who disobey the Creator will not “fare well” in this life...but will actually get a “farewell” from it, altogether.
Death is the opposite of life...who told us otherwise? Who said “you surely will not die”?
I’ll give you a clue.....it wasn’t God.
No other punishment is required or necessary. Death was the highest penalty under God’s law.
Since that was never in the equation, what fear factor can it hold to those who know the truth?
There is no hellfire! “Gehenna” is symbolic, not literal.
If that is what you think a loving God would do, then whatever god you turn to, has to be better than him...right? But satan invented the god you criticise! How clever is he? He turned God into a sadistic, three headed fiend! It is disturbing how many relish the idea of roasting people alive in a hell of eternal fiery torment. (Jer 7:30-31) Doesn’t this show who is for the devil’s fake “god”.....and who supports the “only true God”?...the one who “sent” Jesus to teach us about him.....(John 17:3)
David in NJ
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Correct, when defining human intellectual diagnosis and discovery.
But we are not speaking of human wisdom here - we are discussing where you or i will spend Eternity.
Since this Parameter of Spiritual Acumen that only Permits those who Submit to such as Prescribed by the Author of LIFE and the Grantor of Eternal Life, we must endeavor to give our full attention to such as the Prescription for Eternal Life Sets Forth for us to receive.
Deviance from Said Prescription, can and will result in a Rejection of Said Valued soul that was Made in the Image of God.
Henceforth, the Administer of Truth, Mercy, Grace and Justice has Released only One Prescription for Eternal Life.
This Prescription Required PURE BLOOD that is IMPERVIOUS to Snake Venom.
The Success of this PURE BLOOD has Saved countless lives from the Worldwide Snake Venom.
Failure to receive the REMEDY for the many Snake Bites received, will Surely Result in the Second Death.
And the church worships Him.
Will they recognize Him when they finally meet Him?
Not those of the word church, only those of the Root; the chosen; the elect.
Those who are waiting to die before speaking with Him are in for an awkward conversation.
Aunty Jane
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“The church” has been worshipping him for so long that any attempt to dissuade them, meets with hostile denial. So who or what is “the church”?
Jesus said the the devil would create a counterfeit and pass it off as the real thing.....look what he did to the Jewish religion....He took them down a path that led them to executing their own Messiah! How did he do that? Through men with wicked hearts whom he could convince as easily as he deceived the woman in Eden...through deception.
Jesus said of the Jewish religious leaders......
“You hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about you when he said: 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’” (Matt 15:7-9)
But like the Jews, Christendom cannot see that history is repeating. Teaching ‘the doctrines of men’ makes our worship invalid. 90% of Christendom’s beliefs are inherited from the original apostasy which was taking place already at the close of the first century.....that’s how old it is. That apostasy morphed into the Roman Catholic Church, from which all of Christendom inherited its core beliefs. The history of “the church” betrays it’s wicked leadership....and it’s “friendship with the world”. (James 4:4)
How convinced by their leaders were the Jews....that Jesus was a fraud?
Before Pilate, the scene was ugly.....
“ Seeing that it did no good but, rather, an uproar was arising, Pilate took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying: “I am innocent of the blood of this man.* You yourselves must see to it.”* 25 At that all the people said in answer: “Let his blood come upon us and upon our children.” (Matt 27:25)
Do we think that this curse that they placed on themselves would not be honoured by the God they claimed to worship? Would this betrayal be forgivable? For individuals yes.....but for the Jewish leaders...no! (Matt 23:33)
Jesus’ words again.....warning his disciples of what was to come...
“If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you. 20 Keep in mind the word I said to you: A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have observed my word, they will also observe yours. 21 But they will do all these things against you on account of my name, because they do not know the One who sent me.” (John 15:18-21)
Note the reason for the hostility.....Christendom does not know the God who “sent” Jesus....because they have been convinced that their God is Jesus. Whom did Jesus worship?
In this day and age, we cannot believe what we see anymore, nor even what we hear as AI generated images are so real, that whatever is the devil’s last hurrah, will appear to be so convincing, that the whole world will be hoodwinked....only those who see through the false imagery and proclamations of “peace and security” will remain to tell the story.
It’s not far away now....we are in the ‘last moments’ of the ‘last days’ in universal time, which is the realm in which the most important battle is fought......the realm inhabited by those who defected from the true God in favour of the pretender....both in heaven and on earth.
The battle for the hearts and minds of men as well as angels, will have been fought and won....and we already know who the winner is......sadly we also know through Jesus’ words that “few” will be left on earth to to regain what we lost in Eden. (Matt 7:13-14) “Just like the days of Noah”. (Matt 24:37-39)
What are we being “saved” from? From the expression of God’s righteous anger at those who serve his adversary and justify doing all the things Jesus taught us to avoid.....if we wanted to please “our Father in heaven” then we will have to be found in a certain condition.
“Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, consider what sort of people you ought to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, 12 as you await and keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah, through which the heavens will be destroyed in flames and the elements will melt in the intense heat! 13 But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.
14 Therefore, beloved ones, since you are awaiting these things, do your utmost to be found finally by him spotless and unblemished and in peace.” (2 Peter 3:11-14)
This is not talking about the literal heavens and earth, as there is no defect in any of them....it is what they represent that will be removed. This is the devil’s wicked rulership over flawed humanity....which God has allowed to demonstrate its complete and utter failure.
God’s Kingdom will “come”, ready or not, and bring redeemed mankind back to God’s first purpose for this earth, and humanity upon it. No defector will be among them....no one who wants to justify disobedience to God will remain. (Psalm 37:10-11, 29; 1 John 2:17)
We have to be found as those who are “no part of this world” ruled by the devil. (1 John 5:19; John 18:36)
Can you think of some examples of how many “Christians” today, are very much a part of this world? And how they are disobedient to the commands of Jesus Christ?
Actually, I tend to criticize Christians for NOT being a part of the world.
We are to be IN the world, but not OF it. Many are not even IN it.
I'm more concerned about the lack of personal relationships with Jesus than disobedience to commands.
Too many worship a book instead of the author.
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quietthinker
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Flogging a dead horse wont get it up any more than insisting a blind man see when he can't.
Sharing the good news does not mean hammering those who aren't interested or have locked doors, don't ask and don't seek.
quietthinker
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The shortcomings of those who go by the name of Christian is well known. Are we commissioned to rub this in or does the task also involve not taking on the role of accuser?
I tend to act as though I am flagging down traffic heading for a bridge that is out.
Realizing full well that they are not in that much danger. ???
But the feeling is not mutual.
Sorry, I answered your previous post as if you were AJ.
Aunty Jane
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That has always been a favourite illustration of mine.....if I was a “good Christian”, I would not be sitting reading my Bible to find out how I can just save myself.....it’s my obligation to at least warn others about the dangers ahead...like the bridge that is out...it’s around a blind corner, too many have plunged into the river already.....no one is out there flagging them down and telling them of the danger except those who appear to be a nuisance, telling them something that is not obvious to them, and interfering with their journey.
We can’t stop them driving into the ravine, but we can warn them in the hope that they will stop and check out the situation before proceeding.
Part of being a Christian is to care what happens to those who proceed in spite of the warning.
Jesus warned us that in these difficult times, “the love of the greater number would grow cold” (Matt 24:12).....and this is “because of the increasing in lawlessness”......this is obvious, the longer these “last days” go on. Cyber crime has flourished along with gang violence and senseless attacks on vulnerable people....who are not even safe in their own homes.
Selfishness has engulfed the human race to the point where they are the only ones who matter. Didn’t covid prove that? Didn’t that bring out the selfishness in people who would fight in a supermarket isle over toilet paper!? And now with fuel shortages and ridiculous price increases.....what are these things bringing out in people?
Why did Jesus say that “he who has endured to the end is the one who will be saved”? (Matt 24:13)
We are so close to the “end”....
quietthinker
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Maybe they are in danger....and Jesus knew it full well. Labouring with accusations though, hardly delivers our commission.
For the 'religious' the Bible has become another topic of interest just like a certain fashion or even an addiction like sport rather than a resonance with the Saviour. Accusation becomes the touch stone of exoneration.
The broad spectrum of Christianity VERSUS the narrow-minded view
Jesus was VERY "narrow minded"!Mt 7 NARROW is the way that leads to life and FEW there be who find it.
You should have kept reading.
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
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