The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

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shepherdsword

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1 thes 4.
The dead in Christ RISE FIRST.

BTW, I hope you are aware that rev 14:14-15 has a rapture ( gathering) DURING THE TRIB????
AHEM, THAT MEANS YOUR DOCTRINE has a resurrection of the dead in Christ , of 1 thes 4 RISING AFTER the rev 14 gathering.
EVER THOUGHT ABOUT YOUR CONUNDRUM THERE???
Your doctrine has the dead in Christ NOT RISING FIRST, BIT AFTER THE LIVING.
Facepalm. So embarrasing!

That alone destroys your entire deal.
Thanks for bringing it up.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
 

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Ok now defend your "one coming " against the multiple comings of the bible.
See the debacle you are in?
The "debacle" is only in your mind. All of the verses point to the second coming and the resurrection and transformation that takes place there.
 

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You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
I read.
I post what is in the bible.
Is the gathering of Rev 14:14-15 in the bible?

Is it the second coming?

No side show diversions.
No name calling
No accusations

Just RECONCILE THE PASSAGES.
 
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I feel I need to say this, so without further ado,

There’s only one DAY OF THE LORD (which is when Jesus returns). It happens at the very last trumpet of God, right before the Millennium begins.
 

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I read.
I post what is in the bible.
Is the gathering of Rev 14:14-15 in the bible?

Is it the second coming?

No side show diversions.
No name calling
No accusations

Just RECONCILE THE PASSAGES.
Yes! It is! Jesus Christ returns with a Golden Crown upon His head, for He returns as King of kings and Lord of lords.