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I can but I won’t since you’ve already decided against the explicit text of Scripture.
| Heb 4:15 | For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. |
Perhaps...
I view Job as a parable. satan in Job serves just as well as a synagogue of them. The intent is to demonstrate satan's purpose and character. Job's behavior glorifies God and satan wants to pour cold water on God's glory. Write a thread on who is more righteous Job, Abraham or Noah. You will see some really funky opinions coming to the fore. satan in Job was a character in a morality play, a parable.
| Heb 4:15 | For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. |
Or Adam became his own adversary, satan, the devil, the carnal man who still had the dominion, but on his own behalf instead of God's...?
Obedient then to ourselves and our own ways... or to God and His Way.
From selfless potential to selfish actuality. This satan or devil was then perhaps just another idol which cannot really speak or see or hear like the ones men made from stone.
Was not their carnal father the first man, Adam?
To answer this question, I think it is helpful to have in mind the 7 Deadly Sins.
Jesus had a higher standard or definition of sin.
Jesus is the Word of God. But... for 33½ years he was a man with our temptations. We all succumbed to temptation and sinned. He never did. Our standard may not be what his was, but does it not need to be? Are we not to be seeking that which he had and which he performed?
Aye, that is the standard for him and for us. We too need to work while it is day before when night comes...?
Even so...
| 1jo 2:16 | For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. |
Certainly he is real to men who are sinning and living in darkness. But... to a man living in the Light, where is the Light and where is any darkness?
Is this scriptural?
The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." Gen 3:13
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When and if we are trusting in Him.
Amen!
Yes we are, most of us, still in the world, but Jesus toward the end of his time as man subject to temptation he was no longer IN the world. Can anyone else attain to that prior to the grave?
Perhaps!
Yes... at least for as long as men are still in and of the world.
If we are following Christ to our own end, does it matter to us?
What Adam lost was "Life". I do not believe it was given to satran. It was for reason that Jesus came:
| Joh 10:10 | The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. |
Has any man of flesh not had such thoughts? Those our part of man's temptations. If he follows them, they become sin. If he always resists them and/or asks God for help to deal with them will they ever become sin? Jesus never yielded to his temptations. Did his temptation include lustful thoughts? I only know what is written in the Scripture. It does read. "in all points tempted like as we are..."
This may be a common belief with regard to satan, but I do not see it by what I read in scripture. I am no expert but I do state carefully what I believe and what I do not. God knows. At a proper time He may let me in on more of the details.
I also add for my beliefs, 'perhaps'.
My doubts are not with regard to what is written in the Bible, but as what it means to me. I continue seek and according to God's will and timing to find.
Give God the glory!
You are taking that too literally. If Jesus had lustful thoughts like I have, it would be counted as sin.
How well is it that we know what was the mind of Christ? What we believe is not necessarily what we know.
I certainly agree with you on this point. He qualified as a sacrifice. No one else did. See the type here:
| Ge 22:7 | And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? |
| Ge 22:8 | And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together. |
