The Cleansing of the Sanctuary & The 70 Weeks of Daniel

[Floyd]

Hello Brakelight.

Thanks for your detailed post, however, I am well aware of the position you take.
I was in a similar stance approx 30 years ago, so I do understand how many people are of the position you take.
Rather than repeat what has been written for our Site; I will give a short intro.; and if you wish you can read further with the Link given.
Let me say here, that our differing positions does not affect our Salvation in Christ our Lord; nor our future relationship.

Regards.

In Christ.

Floyd.

A Kingdom of Priests unto God



The common view and teaching on this subject, is that the Redeemed of the Lord (Jesus Christ), make up the members of “the Kingdom and Priests”. The Redeemed are at present drawn from all nations of the world, and all races, and the only criterion is acceptance of Jesus Christ’s Sacrificial Death on the Calvary Cross! That “Kingdom” is the Millennial Kingdom and Reign of Christ Messiah Jesus, and is instigated by Him at His return to Earth to save His people Israel, and to judge the Gentile nations.

Link:
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Jehovah's dealings with Israel

The fact that Almighty God is addressing the Jews specifically in the majority of the Old Testament (First or Old Covenant), is self-evident. However, all mankind is being addressed in the general sense, as the Message is focused on the Propitiation of God in ultimately Christ Jesus! The beginning of the Old Testament (OT) is addressing the Creation and Fall of humankind under the influence of Satan, with the consequence of the Flood; and as such is showing the consequence of disobedience to Creator God. As such it is addressed to all mankind.

Link:
[SIZE=13.5pt] [/SIZE]Jehovah's dealings with Israel [SIZE=13.5pt] [/SIZE]

 

[shturt678]

Hello Brakelight.

Thanks for your detailed post, however, I am well aware of the position you take.
I was in a similar stance approx 30 years ago, so I do understand how many people are of the position you take.
Rather than repeat what has been written for our Site; I will give a short intro.; and if you wish you can read further with the Link given.
Let me say here, that our differing positions does not affect our Salvation in Christ our Lord; nor our future relationship.

Regards.

In Christ.

Floyd.

A Kingdom of Priests unto God



The common view and teaching on this subject, is that the Redeemed of the Lord (Jesus Christ), make up the members of “the Kingdom and Priests”. The Redeemed are at present drawn from all nations of the world, and all races, and the only criterion is acceptance of Jesus Christ’s Sacrificial Death on the Calvary Cross! That “Kingdom” is the Millennial Kingdom and Reign of Christ Messiah Jesus, and is instigated by Him at His return to Earth to save His people Israel, and to judge the Gentile nations.

Link:
[SIZE=13.5pt]A Kingdom of Priest unto God [/SIZE]



Jehovah's dealings with Israel

The fact that Almighty God is addressing the Jews specifically in the majority of the Old Testament (First or Old Covenant), is self-evident. However, all mankind is being addressed in the general sense, as the Message is focused on the Propitiation of God in ultimately Christ Jesus! The beginning of the Old Testament (OT) is addressing the Creation and Fall of humankind under the influence of Satan, with the consequence of the Flood; and as such is showing the consequence of disobedience to Creator God. As such it is addressed to all mankind.

Link:
[SIZE=13.5pt] [/SIZE]Jehovah's dealings with Israel [SIZE=13.5pt] [/SIZE]

Thank you for caring again!

Only one little istsy bitsy problem. The "Kingdom of Christ" reigns this very moment through the Word of God (Scriptures). We even reign with Him in a limited way for those who have the true Word, and not implying that I have it; however still trying to find it.

Old Jack

btw take another gander at Matt.3:2, "for the Kingdom of the heavens has come near."

 

[Floyd]

Herein lies the problem for those that do not understand Scripture in Truth, regarding eschatology!
Many of these people are true Christ-Ones (Christians), and therefore saved; but are not able to truly discern events, especially in the Middle-East.
This make them less able as warriors and advocates for Christ!


[SIZE=28pt]ESCHATOLOGY[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]Why are there so many conflicting interpretations of Biblical prophecy when the words in Scripture are the same? Well here is a very good example of the saying "don't look for Satan in Soho (although he is there in form) but look for him in the pulpit". This comment was used quite often by Dr. Bullinger to make the point that misinterpretation of Scripture by teachers, pastors, elders, Priests and Vicars; to eager listeners, who are very often very sincere in their hearts, was/is to be carefully checked against the Bible![/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]Easier said than done in some cases. Why should that be?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]Unfortunately, there are as many interpretations as there are Groupings which have developed since the Protestant Reformation, which was meant to undo the damage of the Roman Church, but which has since spawned its own misleading teachings leading to even more confusion and heartache among sincere Christians! See: [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Scripture corruption:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]As almost, if not all Biblical prophecy relates to Israel, and the bulk of it is regarding "the end times", if a person or group is wrong in their interpretation of who is being referred to in Scripture, (see opening page of [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]www.revelationsmessage.co.uk[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] ) they are going to be wrong in the majority of their teaching and understanding. Their corrupted fundamental precepts project onwards into all their Bible study which can/will have serious consequences for both the individual and/or the group. All truth seeking Christians will accept that Israel is the subject of Biblical prophecy, that Christ Messiah is returning to earth in power and great glory, that He will save "the remnant" of Israel, and will judge the nations and peoples of the earth into "sheep and goats", prior to setting up His Millennial Kingdom. Those groups that do not accept these future events, and teach differently will be subject to whatever the Lord Christ Jesus dealings are at His return (see: Matt. 25).[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]A very clear example of wrong teaching is given in Isa. 28, where just prior to their exile to Babylon the Jews are shown by Jehovah God that they had erred in their knowledge and behaviour where v7-14 define their error and sin in not learning God's truth.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]Two very obvious examples of corrupted teachings, are the Roman Church which introduced Babylonian teachings, and who say that all of Revelation is history, thus negating all prophecy in the Bible. Also all Groups that reject Israel as the main subject of prophecy! This latter Grouping applies to many churches and Sects, who have displaced Israel with "the church", and therefore apply to themselves the many prophecies regarding "the end times" and incorporate it in their teaching! See: [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Replacement Theology[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]The following examples from Wikipedia, give some idea of the very many differences of opinion at large in the world today regarding the subject of "the last days", these being recognised basic views on the subject, which term relates to Old Testament prophecy, particularly in Daniel. The term "last days" does not mean "end of the world" as is interpreted by for example The Church of England, but "the end of the Age", or end of a predetermined period of time. The term used generally for the study or teaching of this subject is "Eschatology".[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]Christian Eschatology[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] is the branch of theological study relating to last things, such as concerning [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]death[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], the end of the world, the judgement of mankind, and the ultimate destiny of mankind. [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Eschatological[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] passages are found in many places in the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian Bible[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], with many being found in the Old Testament prophets, especially in [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Isaiah[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] and [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Daniel[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]. Many are also found in the New Testament books, such as [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Matthew 24[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Matthew 25[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]General epistles[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Pauline epistles[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], and the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Book of Revelation[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]. This article is currently a general overview of the different [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian eschatological[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] interpretations of the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Book of Revelation[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]. The differences are by no means monolithic as representing one group or another. Many differences exist within each group.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16pt]PREMILLENNIALISM[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian eschatology[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] is the belief that [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Jesus Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] will literally and physically return to the earth and take the righteous back to heaven with him. This return is referred to as the Rapture, and rather than Jesus descending to touch the Earth, the righteous will be raised to meet Him in the air. Bible passages such as 1 Thes 4:16-17 & Rev 20:1-6 are cited as evidence. The doctrine is called premillennialism because it holds that Jesus' physical return to earth will occur prior to the inauguration of the millennium. It is distinct from the other forms of [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian eschatology[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] such as [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]postmillennialism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] or [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]amillennialism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], which view the millennial rule as occurring either before the second coming, or as being figurative and non-temporal. For the last century the belief has been common in [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian fundamentalism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]Premillennialism is based upon what is said to be a [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]literal[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] interpretation of [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Revelation 20:1-6[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]New Testament[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], which describes Jesus' coming to the earth and subsequent reign at the end of an apocalyptic period of [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]tribulation[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]. It views this future age as a time of fulfillment for the prophetic hope of God's people as given in the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Old Testament[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]. Others such as the Eastern Orthodox claim that this passage of Revelation describes the present time, when Christ reigns in [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Heaven[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] with the departed [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]saints[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]; such an interpretation views the symbolism of Revelation as referring to a spiritual battle rather than a physical battle on earth. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=16pt]In Christian end-times theology, ([/SIZE][SIZE=16pt]eschatology[/SIZE][SIZE=16pt]), POSTMILLENNIALISM[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] is an interpretation of chapter 20 of the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Book of Revelation[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] which sees [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]'s [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]second coming[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] as occurring after (Latin post-) the "[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Millennium[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]", a [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Golden Age[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in which [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christian ethics[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] prosper. The term subsumes several similar views of the end times, and it stands in contrast to [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]premillennialism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] and, to a lesser extent, [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]amillennialism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] (see [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Summary of Christian eschatological differences[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]). Postmillenialism was a dominant theological belief among American Protestants who promoted reform movements in the 19th and 20th century such as abolitionism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt][1][/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] and the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Social Gospel[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt].[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt][2][/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] It has been criticized by 20th century political conservatives as an attempt to [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Immanentize the eschaton[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]AMILLENNIALISM[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] ([/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Latin[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]: a- "no" + [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]millennialism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]) is a view in Christian [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]end-times theology[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] named for its rejection of the theory that [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Jesus Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] will have a thousand-year-long, physical reign on the earth. This is in opposition to [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]premillennial[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] and some [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]postmillennial[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] interpretations of [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]chapter 20[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] of the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Book of Revelation[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]In contrast, the amillennial view holds that the thousand years mentioned in Revelation 20 is a [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]symbolic[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] number, not a literal description; that the millennium has already begun and is identical with the current [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]church age[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt], (or more rarely, that it ended with the [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]destruction of Jerusalem[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in AD 70 -- see [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Preterism[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]). Amillennialism holds that while Christ's reign during the millennium is [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]spiritual[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in nature, at the end of the church age, [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]Christ will return[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] in [/SIZE][SIZE=14pt]final judgment[/SIZE][SIZE=14pt] and establish a permanent physical reign.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=14pt]Many proponents dislike the name amillennialism because it emphasizes their differences with premillennialism rather than their beliefs about the millennium, and although they prefer alternate terms such as NUNC-MILLENNIALISM (that is, now-millennialism) or realized millennialism, the acceptance and widespread usage of the alternate names has been limited.[/SIZE]

 

[DaDad]

Herein lies the problem for those that do not understand Scripture in Truth, regarding eschatology!
Many of these people are true Christ-Ones (Christians), and therefore saved; but are not able to truly discern events, especially in the Middle-East.
This make them less able as warriors and advocates for Christ!

Perhaps they've not considered Bible Prophecy foundations, -- such as the sequence of empires in Daniel 2, and the end-time government specifics in Daniel 7, 8, & 11 --, to arrive to Rev. 12 & 13 seven heads, ten horns, seven/ten diadems, the Lion/Leopard/Bear, and the Rev. 17 mountains/kings.

I'm quite confident that if there weren't so many individuals whose doctrines superseded Scripture, that the TRUTH of GOD's Word would be more apparent.



With Best Regards,
DD



PS Did you ever come to a solution to the Daniel 2:45 sequence?

Dan. 2
41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom
45 ... the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold ... = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE


Please perform to what Scripture plainly delineates, or provide an alternate explanation for GOD's Intelligent Design sequence, 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE: