The cycle of abuse

[JellyJam]

I have felt that queasy feeling too, watching a few tv preachers, but I don't actually get ill but I do get a terrible headache. But that mass "healing" one, you couldn't help but laugh. Okay, I'm just going to describe it.

I'll show you something from Australia.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

You are correct, the problem is belief.

Or rather beliefs you* don't personally like. (*The "you" here applying to every individual). If you* personally don't like beleif X, then that place/person which teaches it is horrible and evil and abusive. Just because you don't like the belief.

What is really is is you just disliking a certain belief and treating it/those believers with a different set of standards than beliefs you happen to like.

I'm trying really hard to be respectful and polite here, but I'm really just seeing a ton of hypocrisy is your stance here and in other threads. Until you are willing to 100% RESPECT other people, including beliefs you disagree with and even find harmful, you're using hypocritic duel standards and have no real argument.

 

[JellyJam]

Or rather beliefs you* don't personally like. (*The "you" here applying to every individual). If you* personally don't like beleif X, then that place/person which teaches it is horrible and evil and abusive. Just because you don't like the belief.

What is really is is you just disliking a certain belief and treating it/those believers with a different set of standards than beliefs you happen to like.

I'm trying really hard to be respectful and polite here, but I'm really just seeing a ton of hypocrisy is your stance here and in other threads. Until you are willing to 100% RESPECT other people, including beliefs you disagree with and even find harmful, you're using hypocritic duel standards and have no real argument.

There are no beliefs to disagree with, because a belief is not an actual way to know something is real. Okay, because you can't just can't expect that whatever you believe in is fact.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

There are no beliefs to disagree with, because a belief is not an actual way to know something is real. Okay, because you can't just can't expect that whatever you believe in is fact.

Newsflash: you yourself hold lots of beliefs.

Please stop with this transparent hypocrisy.

 

[aspen]

I'll tell you a little secret, I used to scream at my television when Benny Hinn came on. I just wanted help for my own faith you know. But Benny Hinn just made me mad, real mad. Because he'd be, well I'm sure you can understand why anyone would be mad at him.

I worked at a convention center in Fresno (yes, i’ve experienced Hell) when Benny Hinn visited. There were people in hospital beds spanning three city blocks for two entire days......no water, in 110+ heat. Benny Hinn would not even pay for outhouses. Only a third of the people in beds got in and they were relegated to the back, far out of reach of Hinn and his cameras.

 

[JellyJam]

Newsflash: you yourself hold lots of beliefs.

Please stop with this transparent hypocrisy.

Actually, I am putting an end to believing in thing's. For now I'm more comfortable just accepting what I don't know, and being open to know when life affords me that position.

 

[JellyJam]

I worked at a convention center in Fresno (yes, i’ve experienced Hell) when Benny Hinn visited. There were people in hospital beds spanning three city blocks for two entire days......no water, in 110+ heat. Benny Hinn would not even pay for outhouses. Only a third of the people in beds got in and they were relegated to the back, far out of reach of Hinn and his cameras.

That, that makes me want to cry.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So all these people were lined up to come on stage for healing. He had just talked about how the power of God moved through him and he pranced around on the stage, putting on this show. (I hadn't met God maybe...a month or so before and I was trying to figure out how the heck all these people in this stadium couldn't see the guy was full of it. I was really puzzled.)

So at one point this couple came up. He strode up to her and smacked her forehead and she "was slain." She fell back and this guy caught her and helped her to the floor. But her husband was holding her hand, so when she went down, he went down with her. Only they weren't expecting he would be "slain" too, so poor guy took a hard landing.

Hinn gets this very...offended look on his face, almost like an angry pout and he says: Pick him up! I didn't touch him!

So they go to pick the guy up, but it unslays his wife too because they're still holding hands!

So then he starts mumbling something and he smacks her on the forehead again. She gets slain again and falls back and is caught but...THEYRE STILL holding hands, so yep, hubby takes ANOTHER hard landing.

Hinn clicks his tongue and says again, I DIDNT TOUCH HIM! Pick him back up!!

But same thing, still holding hands, so they unslays the woman again.

Third times a charm, right? Nope. Still holding hands.

I was running for the bathroom so I didn't see what he did after that 3rd time. They were gone from camera view by the time I got back.

Later on, I felt bad for laughing but still couldn't stop laughing every time I thought about it. I didn't feel bad for laughing at Hinn. I felt bad for those poor people.

 

[JellyJam]

So all these people were lined up to come on stage for healing. He had just talked about how the power of God moved through him and he pranced around on the stage, putting on this show. (I hadn't met God maybe...a month or so before and I was trying to figure out how the heck all these people in this stadium couldn't see the guy was full of it. I was really puzzled.)

So at one point this couple came up. He strode up to her and smacked her forehead and she "was slain." She fell back and this guy caught her and helped her to the floor. But her husband was holding her hand, so when she went down, he went down with her. Only they weren't expecting he would be "slain" too, so poor guy took a hard landing.

Hinn gets this very...offended look on his face, almost like an angry pout and he says: Pick him up! I didn't touch him!

So they go to pick the guy up, but it unslays his wife too because they're still holding hands!

So then he starts mumbling something and he smacks her on the forehead again. She gets slain again and falls back and is caught but...THEYRE STILL holding hands, so yep, hubby takes ANOTHER hard landing.

Hinn clicks his tongue and says again, I DIDNT TOUCH HIM! Pick him back up!!

But same thing, still holding hands, so they unslays the woman again.

Third times a charm, right? Nope. Still holding hands.

I was running for the bathroom so I didn't see what he did after that 3rd time. They were gone from camera view by the time I got back.

Later on, I felt bad for laughing but still couldn't stop laughing every time I thought about it. I didn't feel bad for laughing at Hinn. I felt bad for those poor people.

I think Benny Hinn believes through and through that he is the almighty Lord's one and only.

Beliefs can empower you if you accept them as true.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I think Hinn doesn't even believe in God at all. I think he's just trying to make money. I would compare him to a wrestler, you know, that fake wrestling.

 

[JellyJam]

I think Hinn doesn't even believe in God at all. I think he's just trying to make money. I would compare him to a wrestler, you know, that fake wrestling.

I think he is completely deluded, that he accepted something he believes that's just completely false. He wouldn't be up there performing if he didn't hold beliefs he thought were fake. In his head there all real.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Why do you think no charlatan would ever pretend...?

 

[JellyJam]

Why do you think no charlatan would ever pretend...?

Because most of these freaks lie to themselves first, so they can do what they do.

Although you are right, there are those that know there fakes.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Actually, I am putting an end to believing in thing's. For now I'm more comfortable just accepting what I don't know, and being open to know when life affords me that position.

^That is a belief system.

Again, please move on from these super hypocritical arguments.

 

[Waiting on him]

That, that makes me want to cry.

That’s the problem people aren’t searching the scriptures. These people are desperate to hang on to this world. When scripture clearly says to not fear for your life. This is the dung heap, let’s dont forget. There’s something far greater ahead, and only one thing preventing.

 

[JellyJam]

^That is a belief system.

Again, please move on from these super hypocritical arguments.

Excuse me, am I believing in what I have accepted I don't know? Belief is the exact opposite, that it makes the assumption that it does know.

 

[JellyJam]

Ahahaha...now, now! I sure know what you mean...she's gotta stop wearing lipstick as, it just makes her lips look like the Joker on Batman!!! Not a nice thing to say Although, I do find her to be funny

You must be talking of Kenny Copeland! Yikes he dove off the deep end a long time ago, IMHO.

That is so true! I've noticed that, it's so damn spooky.

 

[JellyJam]

That’s the problem people aren’t searching the scriptures. These people are desperate to hang on to this world. When scripture clearly says to not fear for your life. This is the dung heap, let’s dont forget. There’s something far greater ahead, and only one thing preventing.

That's just dandy.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Excuse me, am I believing in what I have accepted I don't know? Belief is the exact opposite, that it makes the assumption that it does know.

You have assigned definitions to the words "assumption", "fact", "belief".
You have categorized various things into this category, with an attached values system.
You then act off of this categorization and values system.
And then you prostylize in favor of your particular system.

It's a completely a belief system.

 

[Waiting on him]

That's just dandy.

Admit it, you’d chew your own head off for just two seconds more of this place.