The deconstructing of the law in the New Testament

[David Lamb]

And you can rest assured that IF it had BEEN UNLAWFUL to heal one on the sabbath . HE
who gave moses the law would not have healed that man . WHO do we THINK
THE WORD of GOD cannot contradict GOD . And the word was with God and the Word was God .
Many cannot discern for they have no desire for to learn .
Well to learn of GOD . to learn of men they have much desire and that will be their downfall .
Cause man is not infallible . GOD IS . HIS WORD is and His words are TRUTH .
But for those who LOOK to the lcheifaw for justification , well i SHUDDER for those too .
For all have sinned , all have fallen short of the glory of GOD .
ONLY ONE did not sin . only one man and one man alone did not sin and fullfilled the righteous of the law of GOD .
But he was HE who had created man and all things that are and were HE did create .
Kinda sad and very deadly it is for them , WHO TWIST HIS WORDS to fit a lie of men .
Wont bode well . Cursed is the man whose hope be in man .
BLESSED be the man whose hope be IN GOD .
AND if t heir hope be not in CHRIST , IT BE NOT IN THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM and TESTIFIED ON HIM .

Yes, and Jesus Christ is the one Who could say to His enemies:

"Which of you convicts Me of sin?" (John 8:46)

And at His trial, the chief priests had to find false witnesses in order to accuse Him.

 

[Lizbeth]

The "spirit of the Law" is a secular construct, it's not biblical.

2 Corinthians 3:6 NIV
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—
not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Well for example, the Law says do not commit adultery. .....but Jesus and the new covenant says if you so much as lust after a woman in your heart you have committed adultery. So that is the spirit behind the Law which said do not commit adultery.....inward purity, not just outward physical purity. It is a higher/deeper call than the first covenant, reaching to our soul and spirit (although the Jews who actually had faith saw into the deeper spiritual aspect more than those lawkeepers who didn't).

1Th 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[St. SteVen]

Well for example, the Law says do not commit adultery. .....but Jesus and the new covenant says if you so much as lust after a woman in your heart you have committed adultery. So that is the spirit behind the Law which said do not commit adultery.....inward purity, not just outward physical purity. It is a higher/deeper call than the first covenant, reaching to our soul and spirit (although the Jews who actually had faith saw into the deeper spiritual aspect more than those lawkeepers who didn't).

The law and being led by the Spirit are not compatible.

Galatians 5:18 NIV
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

 

[amigo de christo]

The law and being led by the Spirit are not compatible.

Galatians 5:18 NIV
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Cause without faith its all in vain padnah .
No man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . SO there goes all them false religoins . THEY DO NOT KNOW GOD PEROID .
Lets accept that fact right now .
Now it is by the SPIRIT one calls JESUS , a good man , wrong , LORD MESSIAH CHRIST .
So again all who fail to Believe on HIM indeed DO reject GOD .
Now if ye trangress the law ye are convincted of the law as trangressors . SO wave adios
to all those preachers in wool trying to give us an inclusive jesus that seems to accept sins , specially CERTIAN PC ones .
YOU , oh dear steven , have no idea what you follow or who you follow .
YA been deconstructed because YOU LOVED to have it so .
BIBLE TIME steven . Cause if one is LED by THE SPIRIT they had CALLED JESUS LORD
and have FOLLOWED HIS F OOTSTEPS . Inclusive jesus is A FALSE ONE . but many love this judge not correct not jesus .
And about the only thing THEY WILL and DO CORRECT , IS THE TRUTH and those who bring and speak it .
Time for an all out wake up call . Cause christendom is in dire trouble
and deconstruction AINT THE ANSWER . ITS only part of that which shall merge them and the false religions
to be as one under what all of them WILL BELEIVE is GOD and IS H IS LOVE and HIS plan f or world peace .
ONLY IT BE OF ANTI CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, and Jesus Christ is the one Who could say to His enemies:

"Which of you convicts Me of sin?" (John 8:46)

And at His trial, the chief priests had to find false witnesses in order to accuse Him.

Today the only REAL HARD CORE SIN being called SIN
being called hate . IS the TRUTH and those who bring said truth which sure does expose SINS
and unbelief .
IF that seems hard to beleive . GO INTO an inclusive ecumeinal lovey do church .
Make sure YOU HAVE A BIBLE IN HAND and begin to read it .
READ JESUS words to them . Not picking and choosing but ALL OF THEM .
READ the apostels words to them , not picking and choosing BuT ALL OF THEM .
You will hear something that ought to make a sheep shudder in terror for t hem .
FOR THEY WILL SAY, AWAY WITIH THEE JUDGER , WE DONT HATE , WE LOVE .
But again REMEMBER WHOSE WORDS YOU BE READIN TO THEM . AND WHO they were inspired BY .
SO they CALL G OD the hater , the judger , the legalists , the pharisee . they JUDGE GOD .
GOD is on trial , CHRIST is on trial in t hese sold out churches of satan . And yeah i said satan .
Cause he runs them .
GOD is on trial and HE , HIS CHRIST are cast out in fav or of another jesus and another god and its version of love , tolerance
and acceptance .

 

[amigo de christo]

Well for example, the Law says do not commit adultery. .....but Jesus and the new covenant says if you so much as lust after a woman in your heart you have committed adultery. So that is the spirit behind the Law which said do not commit adultery.....inward purity, not just outward physical purity. It is a higher/deeper call than the first covenant, reaching to our soul and spirit (although the Jews who actually had faith saw into the deeper spiritual aspect more than those lawkeepers who didn't).

1Th 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

This is the hill i was brought too and have chosen to even die upon .
The hill of EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH . JESUS BE THE ONLY WAY TO GOD
all other religoins are false and of the darkness .
The only hope one has IS GOD and if their hope be NOT IN HIS CHRIST , then they have NO HOPE at all .
IF their hope is in the mix that calls evil good and good evil , THEY do not know GOD and follow
only the voice of their master and their father . AND IT DARN sure AINT GOD . It the dark one .
And its the duty of this sheep to warn and that do include AGAISNT false teachers and all false doctrine .
TO even NAME names of false ones and to warn all to stay far and wide from them and t heir doctrine .
TO flee these popular books that may as well be new age .
TO get IN the BIBLE for oneself and compare what you see anyone teach or say , against them scriptures .
JESUS died for his love of humanity , doing all to fullfill what man could not fullfill
SO that all who do beleive on HIM , COULD BE MADE RIGHTEOUS , counted and called JUST and be JUSTIFIED .
This sheep gonna point TO THE CHRIST and all sound d octrine . If i suffer and die for it , so be it .
JESUS DID CONQUER death , so i wont taste of it . HE has me sister .
ITS all who reject him that shall face the second death .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, and Jesus Christ is the one Who could say to His enemies:

"Which of you convicts Me of sin?" (John 8:46)

And at His trial, the chief priests had to find false witnesses in order to accuse Him.

strange indeed that many try and convict the very words of GOD and of CHRIST as bEING SIN , as being hate
as they follow a div erse inclusive s trange god and other jesus .
BIBLE TIME for all . To the trenches one and all . We gots a true gospel to defend.

 

[Lizbeth]

The law and being led by the Spirit are not compatible.

Galatians 5:18 NIV
But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

Never said that we are under the Law. What is it you are trying to protect or defend? Are you thinking that everything that is written in the Law is null and void and therefore it's ok to wilfully sin willy nilly? The wages of sin is still death and always has been since the beginning long before the Law was put in effect. The stoning penalties in the Law were supposed to drive home that point....they were a type/shadow of spiritual death, which means no eternal life, AKA death/destruction of both body and soul.

Rom 6:11-23

Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[Brakelite]

Not according to the law.
The Israelites stoned a man to death for collecting fire wood.

Should have collected it the day before. If it were for some widow or sick person who couldn't collect for themselves, than Jesus would have did, that was doing good. You are setting Jesus, the Lawgiver, against Himself. Be careful.

 

[Brakelite]

Well for example, the Law says do not commit adultery. .....but Jesus and the new covenant says if you so much as lust after a woman in your heart you have committed adultery. So that is the spirit behind the Law which said do not commit adultery....

The Spirit of the law is a secular construct. When Jesus equated lust with the physicall act, He was explaining what the 7th commandment was meaning from the beginning. It isn't a step up or higher goal, it was always the minimum marker or standard.

 

[Brakelite]

Can you prove it?
I don't accept that claim.

“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; he will save us. ”
Isaiah 33:22 KJV

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“For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: ”
John 5:22 KJV

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“33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews? 34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me? 35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done? 36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. ”
John 18:33-36 KJV

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“1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable. ”
Isaiah 42:1-4, 21 KJV

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