The Devil is in the Details

[ScottA]

Question 5

John chapter 1 verse 1 and 2
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning
with God.

How was the Word with God,
and at the same time, was God?
What was the same, in the
beginning with God?

God and His Word are simply One and the same.

You have heard the saying "my word is my bond", and certainly even people can authenticate themselves without seemingly being actually present--by fax, facetime, etc., not a problem. And certainly not impossible for God.

 

[ScottA]

Question 6

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth,
and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ,
hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

This is the reason you
are always dealing with
or going through some
kind of evil, in your life.
God is not with you,
because you are in transgression
and not abiding in
the doctrine of Christ.

True or false?

False. It is not a litmus test based on your presence and relationship with God.

The reason people suffer with evil, is because we live in a fallen world where there is darkness and light at every turn.

 

[Bob]

Question 6

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth,
and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ,
hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

This is the reason you
are always dealing with
or going through some
kind of evil, in your life.
God is not with you,
because you are in transgression
and not abiding in
the doctrine of Christ.

True or false?

Thank you for the question.

Devout Christians can find themselves subjected to hard times as much as anyone. The difference is that for Christians, God will help them through those hard times, whereas those that reject Him are on their own.

For review, what kind of a life did the Apostle Paul experience during his ministry.

Blessings.

 

[Noitalever]

The doctrine of Christ, is that salvation comes through Him alone.

What is the doctrine
of the salvation that comes
through him alone?

 

[Noitalever]

Thank you for the question.

Devout Christians can find themselves subjected to hard times as much as anyone. The difference is that for Christians, God will help them through those hard times, whereas those that reject Him are on their own.

For review, what kind of a life did the Apostle Paul experience during his ministry.

Blessings.

Jesus said
His yoke was easy
And his burden is light.

Is this true?

 

[Noitalever]

False. It is not a litmus test based on your presence and relationship with God.

The reason people suffer with evil, is because we live in a fallen world where there is darkness and light at every turn.

You reap what you sow.

True or false?

 

[ScottA]

What is the doctrine
of the salvation that comes
through him alone?

That's it, that is the doctrine. The details of which are presented in the gospels.

 

[ScottA]

You reap what you sow.

True or false?

True. But that does not fully account for the evils of this world many of which one does not sow and yet we are exposed to them nonetheless, making life in this world like a rollercoaster of good and evil, even if we were without sin.

 

[soberxp]

Jesus said
His yoke was easy
And his burden is light.

Is this true?

True, Jesus Christ did not preach the Gospel as hard as his disciples and priests. He died early on the cross and rose the third day. In paradise in heaven.

 

[doctrox]

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She's the mother of all dying.
The mother of death.

The sting of death is sin (1 Cor. 15:56); sin brings death...

which is why now, in the believer's time of redemption, the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth! (Ecc. 7:1).

True, Jesus Christ did not preach the Gospel as hard as his disciples and priests. He died early on the cross and rose the third day. In paradise in heaven.

We don't know that Jesus preached less "hard" or "died early on the cross." But we do know that if we follow after him, we have his promise that we will find rest for our souls, as our burden will be easy and our yoke will be light (Mat. 11:28). I personally testify to that reality, even as I sojourn in the midst of this fallen world.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (Mat. 11:28-30).
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[soberxp]

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The sting of death is sin (1 Cor. 15:56); sin brings death...

which is why now, in the believer's time of redemption, the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth! (Ecc. 7:1).


We don't know that Jesus preached less "hard" or "died early on the cross." But we do know that if we follow after him, we have his promise that we will find rest for our souls, as our burden will be easy and our yoke will be light (Mat. 11:28). I personally testify to that reality, even as I sojourn in the midst of this fallen world.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (Mat. 11:28-30).
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Can't you see I'm being sarcastic? Who made the Gospels more and more complicated and heavy.

 

[FredVB]

You reap what you sow.

True or false?

People do reap what they sow. Jesus bore the consequential judgment for sin, for those who come to Jesus, with repentant faith.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

You're not the first clever skeptic who thought he'd stumbled onto something new by cherry-picking verses, nor will you be the last.

Genesis 3:20 (Eve) Eve is called the "mother of all living" because from her line would come all humanity. Adam, created directly by God, is not part of her lineage; he is the first man, formed by God himself. Eve's title signifies that all humans afterward were born through her. Adam was formed directly from the dust of the earth by God’s own hand (Genesis 2:7). Eve, on the other hand, was genentically formed from Adam's side/rib (Genesis 2:21–22). Thus, Adam could never call Eve "mother," because she did not precede him; rather, she proceeded from him. This isn't a translation error; it's basic comprehension.

Ezekiel 14:9 (God deceiving prophets) If you actually read Ezekiel 14 in context, God allows deceptive prophets to persist as judgment against rebellious people who prefer lies over truth. God doesn't tempt anyone (James 1:13), but He can certainly use their own delusions to expose and judge their wickedness. You might find that harsh, but God doesn't need your approval.

2 John 1:9 (Doctrine of Christ) The doctrine of Christ is the full teaching about Christ—His incarnation, divinity, humanity, death, resurrection, ascension, and Lordship. It's not complicated, and it doesn't change based on whether you understand or like it.

1 John 1:8 (Sin and believers) Believers are born again spiritually but remain in fallen flesh, thus sin still happens. 1 John 1:8 plainly warns against denying one's sinfulness, even after regeneration. Salvation doesn't remove our fleshly weakness instantly; it gives us power through the Spirit to overcome it gradually.

John 1:1–2 (The Word with God and was God) The Word (Christ) was "with God" (distinct Personhood in the Trinity) and "was God" (sharing the same essence). The Trinity is core Christianity and it's been thoroughly explained for nearly two thousand years.

 

[FredVB]

I do not think any who come to true faith with their repentance will lose faith because of what any sceptics say. Sceptics are keeping themselves from the truth.

 

[ShineTheLight]

Ezekiel 14:9 (God deceiving prophets) If you actually read Ezekiel 14 in context, God allows deceptive prophets to persist as judgment against rebellious people who prefer lies over truth. God doesn't tempt anyone (James 1:13), but He can certainly use their own delusions to expose and judge their wickedness. You might find that harsh, but God doesn't need your approval.

I think God says the same thing in Jeremiah. What the passage is escapes me.

 

[Lambano]

Question 5

John chapter 1 verse 1 and 2
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning
with God.

How was the Word with God,
and at the same time, was God?
What was the same, in the
beginning with God?

C'mon, man, it's poetry.

John is using a literary technique known as Personification. We use the same technique in English. The Logos (usually translated "Word") is God's creative power and ordering of the universe. The point being that Jesus Christ is the very personification of God's creative power.

If you read poetry the same way you read a physics textbook, you're going to miss out on a lot of things, including the author's point.

 

[FredVB]

C'mon, man, it's poetry.

John is using a literary technique known as Personification. We use the same technique in English. The Logos (usually translated "Word") is God's creative power and ordering of the universe. The point being that Jesus Christ is the very personification of God's creative power.

If you read poetry the same way you read a physics textbook, you're going to miss out on a lot of things, including the author's point.

It is doubtful that these passages are just poetry, and even poetry would have meaning that could be explained. Psalms can be called poetry, still with deep meaning. Why would any poetry be isolated here in the gospel of John? Even if you had some point that none of this should be understood literally, which I do not agree with, it is not by itself, as testimony to this truth. There are more passages for it than I will manage to list, but they are not all going to be dealt with anyway. The Jews who were going to stone Jesus understood what he meant with what he said, as being equal with God as the Son of God. Jesus could not rightly tell them, "But you did not understand this the way it was meant." After he rose when he had died, when Thomas his disciple saw it was really Jesus, he said, "My Lord and my God. They worshipped him, he did not have to correct them, as just God is to be worshipped. As God had said there is only the one God, that same God, there is not another one, the heavenly Father and Jesus are the same one God, and Jesus told them if they saw him as they did they were shown the Father.

 

[Jack]

I'm starting this thread
because I have many questions
concerning the Bible and the validity
of the people who believe in it as their
source of truth. And I thought to myself
what better place to put forth my
questions, to you fine folks.

The proof of the Bible is absolute! We are witnessing THE END. World Government, cashless society, Mark of the Beast, PERILOUS TIMES! ...

 

[FredVB]

Mystery Babylon, which God's people should not remain in and must come out from, will collapse and fall soon now ahead of the rise of that one prophesied as the beast, who will seduce all in the world apart from God to follow him, with the promises he will give, which will lead to entire godlessness. What promises could lead all those in the whole world to follow him? I am sure that I have it figured out.

 

[FredVB]

I thought that surely someone would try to guess what I figured out, or suggest what they think it would be.