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Featured The Difference Between Fundamentalist (SOME) and The Rest Of Us.

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  1. Phoneman777

    Phoneman777 Well-Known Member

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    Hi, as a staunch Conservative Fundamentalist, please allow me a few words of rebuttal:

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    Fundamentalists know we are saved by grace but judged by works because works - or the lack thereof - are the evidence for whether we are truly saved by grace. (Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV)

    Non-Fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that grace is a license to continue in sin.
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    Fundamentalists recognize the shame of our weaknesses apart from Christ, but focus instead on uniting our weakness with His strength to overcome sin which is available to anyone and everyone who chooses to take hold of it. (Romans 6:14-16 KJV)

    Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that being proud of one's weaknesses - for which they do not pray, fast, or plead to overcome - affords them a cloak of humility which they vainly seek as a substitute for Christ's Robe of Righteousness.
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    Fundamentalists know that Christ came to "save His people from their sin". (Matthew 1:21 KJV)

    Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that Christ came to same them in their sin.
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    Fundamentalists know that the Ten Commandments "stand fast forever and ever" and are the standard by which we will be judged. (Psalms 111:7-8 KJV; James 2:10-12 KJV)

    Non-fundamentalists believe the fatal deception that "freedom in Christ" is a license to break them.
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    Fundamentalists know that we can never receive by dead faith that which can only be received by living faith: eternal life. (James 2:17-18 KJV)

    Non-fundamentals believe the fatal deception that they may receive by dead faith that which can only be received by living faith: eternal life.
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    Would you go to a doctor who rejects the fundamentals of medicine? Or a mechanic who rejects the fundamentals of automotive technology? Or an investor who rejects the fundamentals of finance? But, so many today reject the Fundamentalist Bible preacher and flock to Non-fundamentalist, emergent church false prophets to have their itchy ears scratched, their oil changed for blown engine, and their money multiplied by men who do nothing but "fleece the flock". How sad.
     
  2. Prayer Warrior

    Prayer Warrior Well-Known Member

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    I think the biggest problem with fundamentalists is how they stereotype people! You know, label them and assume certain things about them. Really, stereotyping is a form of judging, and Jesus said NOT to judge. So, that's my take on it.

    LOL!!!!!:rolleyes::oops::confused:o_O:D I hope you know that what I said is tongue-in-cheek! It seemed that the OP was stereotyping fundamentalists.

    Edit: James 5:16--"Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is very powerful in its effect."

    Oh the irony of it all! Only a "fundamentalist," which I assume applies to a person who takes the Bible seriously and tries to live by it, would take this verse seriously.

    However, IMHO it's very foolish to confess your sins on a public forum. You have no idea who is reading your confession and what they may do with this information about you. It's much wiser to confess in a private setting to Christians that you know you can trust.
     
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    epostle Well-Known Member

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    I have the same problem. I am trying to cleanup my posts, trying to be more charitable. But it's hard when certain people stick to the same foolish straw man fallacies over and over again. I ignore as a last resort.
     
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    Well I would probably never post anything if I waited until I was perfect ;)

    You don't even realize what you just said WindmillCharge.
     
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    'Behold, for peace I had great bitterness:
    but Thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption:
    for Thou hast cast all my sins behind Thy back.'

    (Isaiah 38:17)

    Hello @jshiii,

    Would you please define what you perceive a 'Fundamentalist' to be? and why you believe you are justified in vilifying them here?

    If God cast the sins of Nehemiah 'behind' His back, surely we can also say the same. If He remembers them no more, why then should we? Is it not a denial of His forgiveness, to keep on bringing them before His face.

    I am a sinner who has been saved by the mercy and grace of God, on the basis of the sacrificial work of Christ His Son, on my behalf. I will glory in that fact.

    In Christ Jesus
    Chris
     
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    jshiii Active Member

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    I am a Fundamentalist, but i'm not a self-righteous one. Fundamentalist take all scripture literally, when they can, and I am at liberty to disagree on some scriptures, there is not just one type of Fundamentalist, we can all vary on secondary doctrine. However, we need to be careful of not becoming self-righteous as I have seen some fall in this trap.

    I'm sorry for the confusion in my post. My thoughts were aimed more at the self righteous, than the Fundamentalist.
     
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  7. Prayer Warrior

    Prayer Warrior Well-Known Member

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    You and me both.

    I like your pic! You copied my hair color and style. Shame on you! :D
     
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    Hi, PW, I feel your pain when it comes to those "ministers of justice" that are all to commonly found in our midst, but is it wrong to "judge" someone as whatever they demonstrate themselves to be? I don't think it's wrong to judge a rapist papist priest, a drunk, or a wife abuser as such if that is exactly what they are...now, to judge their ETERNAL DESTINY - well, that's another matter entirely; it's to what Jesus was referring when He said "judge not". But fruit inspectors? We are all called to be such. If the doctor calls it a rash in order to spare the feelings of his patient when it is really skin cancer, he's not helping, is he? King David said, "Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil that shall not break my head."
    The KJV says "faults" not sins, which is a better translation, for what may seem to some to be a hair-splitting point: if we consider that a "sin" is "transgression of God's law" and consider also "against Thee and Thee alone have I sinned", it becomes clear that the only Person we can "sin" against is God (you and I have authored no law upon which we may transgress) and therefore, it is really "faults" that we should confess to one another...which may seem like a small issue, but when we consider that over a BILLION Christians are taught the only way to get forgiveness of sin is to go and confess them to a sinful priest, it really isn't that small an issue, it's colossal...after all, religious deception is the only thing ever drove our Lord to anger, right? Blessings :)
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, lol. So, you have mousy brown with gray and messy hair too? :D
     
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    I hear ya, but what about all the self-righteous anti-fundamentalists?? There are plenty of self-righteous liberals who hate God and his word. Just watch CNN, LOL.

    I think a fundamentalist would take all scripture as being the inspired, inerrant word of God, but not necessarily every single word in the Bible as being literal. There are obviously some metaphors used in the Bible. Jesus said that He is the door, but He wasn't literally a slab of wood. The liberal tendency, however, is to take literal events in the Bible as being figurative, like the flood or the miracles....
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  11. Prayer Warrior

    Prayer Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Ha! Is your hair messy? I didn't notice. :)

    What is that expression on your face? Are you perturbed or bored? I'm not quite sure.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    No, just don't care for my pic to be taken...kind of like...oh, "okay-go ahead and take it, sigh" I am very expressive, to the point that every thought or mood does come out. Even if I have no idea, lol. Others do notice and it has gotten me in trouble all my life! I should just shoot my face up with Botox :D
    Hairs not really messy, just had my glasses pushed up onto my head :)
     
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    I just loved this distinction:
    A Philosopher is a blind man on a dark night in a deep cellar looking for a black cat that isn't there.
    A Fundamentalist is a blind man who pretends to come up with the absent cat on the basis of a blizzard of biblical prooftexts used to compensate for his lack of evidence!
     
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    I appreciate what you're saying, but I was being a tad sarcastic about judging. :)

    Judging others is a very sticky topic. I don't have a problem calling sinful behavior sinful as long as God has made it clear that the behavior is a sin, like adultery, for instance. This is pretty cut-and-dried.

    I think where we get into trouble is assigning an evil motive to behaviors that aren't inherently sinful when we don't really know what's in a person's heart. Perhaps this would be judging according to how things appear to us, which Jesus said not to do in
    John 7:24.

    Hope this makes sense. I'm ready for a nap.
     
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    Botox??????? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's from the deadly bacteria that causes botulism.
     
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    Nancy Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha...I was truly kidding :D
     
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    Ahhh, it seems then I misread your post. Thank you. And if I may borrow from that 1920's Coke commercial, here's to middle of the day naps - the "pause that refreshes" LOL
     
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    Hey there...I haven't talked to you for many moons....hope you are doing well and behaving yourself ;)

    God bless....H
     
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    Good advice. He forgot to put down *poor communication* as one of his failings.

    Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, this Non-Fundamentalist has yet to show us where the Bible asks Christians to broadcast their sins and failings to the whole world (which is what Internet communication is).
     
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    Hey, be sweet, I like him, he is 'refreshing'.
    This Site has got too stuffy and needs loosening up again, like it used to be ....eh @Nancy ? :)
     
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