Anthony D'Arienzo
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It is even better if it is read with understanding.
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It is even better if it is read with understanding.
You continue to dither around in your confusion. God saves those who obey the Gospel. That is not self-righteousness but repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ. "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner " is not self-righteousness. "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord" is not self-righteousness.This is totally false. It means God saves the self-righteous who share in his glory.
What an ignorant off topic post. The topic is election, not Calvin. Pull yourself together.
Dont be deceived, little children
“Who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, though He was a Son, yet He learned obedience by the things which He suffered.” Hebrews 5:7-9.
For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
and let Calvin stay in hell where he belongs imo
What people don't get is that Christ paid the debt for sin, and that God the Father accepted this payment.Oh, so Jesus died for every sin of every man?
No one obeys the gospel as you suggest showing your complete lack of understanding as well as repeating your wrong view of foreknowledge.You continue to dither around in your confusion. God saves those who obey the Gospel. That is not self-righteousness but repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ. "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner " is not self-righteousness. "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord" is not self-righteousness.
How long will you persist in your confused state? Why don't you study the Scriptures and then ask God to clear your mind from all the theological garbage that has settled there?
And Romans 8 is one of best passages to explain the meaning of predestination:It is even better if it [Romans 8] is read with understanding
Most who need to read this will not face it, plus most do not seem to read muchThis will help you when you take time to read it through:
https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/pdf/pink_election.pdf
Yours is an inability to distinguish between prescriptive and descriptive texts, thus you come up with your false works "gospel."You continue to dither around in your confusion. God saves those who obey the Gospel. That is not self-righteousness but repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ. "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner " is not self-righteousness. "Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord" is not self-righteousness.
How long will you persist in your confused state? Why don't you study the Scriptures and then ask God to clear your mind from all the theological garbage that has settled there?
Your first error in point number 1 is the root of most of your errors.And Romans 8 is one of best passages to explain the meaning of predestination:
1. For whom he did foreknow... predestination is based upon divine foreknowledge (God knowing the end from the beginning)
2....he also did predestinate... predestination is a Bible truth, but NOT for salvation
3....to be conformed to the image of his Son... predestination is for the perfection of the saints -- physically, morally, spiritually
4...that he might be the firstborn among many brethren... that the children of God would resemble the only begotten Son of God in eternity
5. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called... God calls His children through the Gospel, knowing who will believe
5... and whom he called, them he also justified... God justifies each one who believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. This is justification by grace through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast
6... and whom he justified, them he also glorified... all the saints will be glorified at the Resurrection/Rapture. They will literally radiate light just as Christ (who is Light) radiates light.
It's defined by 'whosoever believeth' in John 3.16. We don't know the end from the beginning and the eternal counsels of God; but He does!So.... yes? Everyone is in heaven? A straight answer would be very much appreciated
It's defined by 'whosoever believeth' in John 3.16. We don't know the end from the beginning and the eternal counsels of God; but He does!
Only those who are truly born again can definitely apply the promises to themselves by faith.Thanks for the answer! Here is the dilemma;
the premise; Jesus died for every sin of every man. I asked if unbelief was a sin, and he said that lack of faith is a sin.
~ If lack of faith is NOT a sin, then there is no penalty for it, and therefore everyone goes to heaven
~ If lack of faith IS a sin, then Christ's blood covered this sin as well, and therefore everyone goes to heaven.
Any way you slice it, if Christ died for all sins of all men, then everyone will be in heaven. This makes being a Christian completely useless.
Only those who are truly born again can definitely apply the promises to themselves by faith.
The offer of the Gospel to all - which I firmly believe in - is distinct from the effectual securing of the redemption of His people (Hebrews 1: 'He by Himself purged our sins').So Jesus didn't die for every sin of every man?
15 that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during,It's defined by 'whosoever believeth' in John 3.16. We don't know the end from the beginning and the eternal counsels of God; but He does!
This paragraph is key because many pastors have a fear of man rather than a fear of God.Most who need to read this will not face it, plus most do not seem to read much
When I stop later I would like to explore it more, thanks for posting.
It is even better if it is read with understanding.
What an ignorant off topic post. The topic is election, not Calvin. Pull yourself together.
Does it relate then to this verse?
"These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." Rev 17:14
He called many. Few of them were chosen for His reasons.
How many of those both called and chosen were also faithful in the calling to which they were chosen?
God did know the final outcome but that final outcome was a result, was it not, of the decisions made by those who answered the call?