The End is Better than it's Beginning

[Matthias]

A bullet in my brain would be better.

You don’t believe that, so why say it?

 

[I.O.U]

You don’t believe that, so why say it?

Because unlike you I am dumb and dumber! You got that. You're an idiot, and I am a dumb ass.

 

[Matthias]

Because unlike you I am dumb and dumber! You got that.

What I have is your word.

You're an idiot …

I’m a (retired) pastor, a (retired) civil engineer, a (retired) adjunct college professor.

…. and I am a dumb ass.

All I have is your word. (And neither one of us believes it.)

 

[I.O.U]

About the title, imagine if people where like the immortal jellyfish.

If their environment is stable or they don't get eaten. They can begin then end and back to being born again for ever.

So very god like are the jellyfish. You know that saying that anything can live forever goes against the book of Genesis. Then again, it does not specify any of the other animal's ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but then neither does it say that they ate from the tree of knowledge. So I don't know, it's all up for interpretation. May the best believer win!

 

[bbyrd009]

Thanks for letting me know. What is the point that I’m missing?

@I.O.U

 

[bbyrd009]

The inheritance of Messiah and those who belong to him is the earth, not heaven.

ha ya good luck with that, around Christians anyway lol

 

[I.O.U]

I’m a (retired) pastor, a (retired) civil engineer, a (retired) adjunct college professor.

There's a big difference between knowing something, and comprehending something, whatever that something is.

 

[bbyrd009]

I don't want to be saved. Even if one of you believer's catch up with me and torture a confession out of me, or kill me for not believing what you believe. Just realise that I would have never accepted a belief as the basis for salvation or anything else.

It's all has to end at some point, even our most personal beliefs (Can't take our beliefs with us to the next world)

next world?

 

[bbyrd009]

The basic "Christian" proposition as peddled by the churches is a total nonsense as anyone with half a brain cell can plainly see. How many clubs do you know that walk you into a lake of fire if you don't join? What kind of all-loving entity takes his own created humans and punishes them brutally and perpetually if you don't do as they say? The entity portrayed by an incorrect literal reading of the Bible and as falsely peddled by churches is an absolute despotic tyrant, sick and twisted, who is totally indifferent to humans and self-selusional. Proffessing to want humans to love him out of free will but sending them to the lake of fire if they don't. Total self-delusion.

This is no insult on "God" for truly this is not God. The church and millions of Christians have got things so badly wrong. So very badly wrong. They have not seen the true message in the Bible and other works. They are all walking a life of self-denial. Willfully compartmentalizing the nature of their God expressed in the Old Testament. A God that kills babies, children, unborn babies, men women and animals with reckless abandon. Hypocritically many of them then go campaigning for the anti-choice, anti-abortion mobs. You couldn't make it up.

The church is a world power enjoying the willful scaremongering of the populace, preying on vulnerable people who have gaps in their lives. No-one has the true compilation of scriptures, they have long since been lost or hidden away. What we have is a purpose built b@st@rdised edited and censored collection of works which a bunch of people want us to accept as the word of god. On that foundational lie they have built an entire religion. So many people are deceived. Truly there will be millions crying "Lord, Lord!" and the real God will say "I do not know you".

so fwiw your perspective is echoed in the Bible, Esau needed "red stew" or he (thought that) he would die, and God "had hated" him

 

[I.O.U]

I Just wanted to point out, that the OP is right: Ecclesiastes says "better is the end of a thing, than the beginning thereof" (from memory)

Ecclesiastes 7:8NIV
8 The end of a matter is better than its beginning

 

[BeyondET]

So very god like are the jellyfish. You know that saying that anything can live forever goes against the book of Genesis. Then again, it does not specify any of the other animal's ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but then neither does it say that they ate from the tree of knowledge. So I don't know, it's all up for interpretation. May the best believer win!

Yea the little jelly is like a representation of the possibility of forever. Genesis doesn't really imply anything physically created did live forever yet shows the possibility as well.

Its more of man's theory that matter didn't end back then dirt didn't just appear from nothing

 

[I.O.U]

So very god like are the jellyfish. You know that saying that anything can live forever goes against the book of Genesis. Then again, it does not specify any of the other animal's ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but then neither does it say that they ate from the tree of knowledge. So I don't know, it's all up for interpretation. May the best believer win!

I totally F my reply. It should read:

(So very god like are the jellyfish. You know that saying that anything can live forever goes against the book of Genesis. Then again, it does not specify any of the other animal's ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but then neither does it say that they ate from the tree of life. So I don't know, it's all up for interpretation. May the best believer win!)

 

[I.O.U]

Yea the little jelly is like a representation of the possibility of forever. Genesis doesn't really imply anything physically created did live forever yet shows the possibility as well.

Its more of man's theory that matter didn't end back then dirt didn't just appear from nothing

Yea they are gardians of the keys to life.

 

[BeyondET]

Yea they are gardians of the keys to life.

Quite a few keys indeed, these little green pea galaxies below are powerhouses.
Rare 'green pea' galaxy may be the most 'chemically primitive' galaxy ever discovered

 

[I.O.U]

Quite a few keys indeed, these little green pea galaxies below are powerhouses.
Rare 'green pea' galaxy may be the most 'chemically primitive' galaxy ever discovered

But you would't know this unless science was born.

 

[Adventageous]

Say I took by force the land your home is located, brought other's to live there also. What was once yours is now mine, my family and friend's for generations. No matter how you played it out you would loose, or suffer expulsion. But I do have a heart and let you and your family live with me and my friend's. So long as you follow the good law's that my God gave to my ancestor's.

Which you will learn shortly after my family, friends and myself build our moral law centre's all over this wonderful land we acquired from you. Does that sound reasonable? Then you can know our one true God is real, and loves you like he does us.

Sounds like what God had allowed to Canaan, because many of the Canaanites were wicked exceedingly, and practiced all manner of wickedness. God gave them hudnreds of years to repent, and sent them warning after warning. Love is in the long-suffering of God towards them.

Sounds like what God had allowed to the 'Americas', because many of the peoples that existed were likewise war-mongering, human-sacrificing, etc persons. God gave them hudnreds of years to repent, and sent them warning after warning. Love is in the long-suffering of God towards them.

 

[BeyondET]

But you would't know this unless science was born.

We are born of creation which is a science. humans learn science from observation to formulation to replication.

Nature doesn't know sodium and chlorine are toxic hazardous elements by themselves to humans but combined it is salt a harmless creation that is important to sustaining life.

 

[BeyondET]

I totally F my reply. It should read:

(So very god like are the jellyfish. You know that saying that anything can live forever goes against the book of Genesis. Then again, it does not specify any of the other animal's ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but then neither does it say that they ate from the tree of life. So I don't know, it's all up for interpretation. May the best believer win!)

About the animals eating in the garden let's say house. the animals where brought to the house and named. Nothing says they entered.

Alot of these maybe of parables of sorts, God didn't write the Bible man did.