Well as I learned in grammar school, this is an obvious comparative passage with the subject being Gods longsuffering and patience towards us! It is not a doctgrinal statement saying a day=1,000 years or vice versa! That little teeny tiny word "as" shows us it is a comparative term. No com[parative language is found in the six time 1,000 years occurs in Revelation.
See God is smarter than us. God created grammar and the rules of grammar and also gave us the ability to read. When God wanted to make a comparison, He knew we can be dumb as sheep (Which is why He called u9s sheep) so when He wanted to make a comparison (which is not meant as literal) He put comparative words in the sentence so that when following the rules of Grammar He created, we would know it is not literal!
also when something is to be understood as literal, He did not put comparative terms in the sentence. The only time this is broken is when the construct apart from comparative terms shows something is not to be taken literally. All this is learnbed in English grammar and in Greek and Hebrew grammar as well. these rules are universal AFAIK
I am sure there are som epre-mils who may hold that view. why don't you supply th ename of one seeing as you are making an accusation against pre-mils.. Proving your assertion would be a nice thing.
Once again , I know of no premils who hold this. so either support your generic accusation or recant of slander and lying.
Well as I said I know of no writer of premil doctrine who believes this, on this we can agree!
καυσούμενα
kausoumena
This is from 2 Peter 3 and simply means to burn with great heat. The level of destruction is supplied by adjectivers or adverbs. So you are incorrect.
The greek word you spelled is a form of kataklsymos which is only used of the flood of Noahs day.
Well I know not one who contends this absurdity- so it is just a red herring and strawman
and as soon as you cite one book which advances this crazy notion we can talk about it. But until then, it appears you are simply throwing out accusationsd to tarnsih your opponents in this debate to make your own argument look better.
Premils are so blinkered by what they have been taught that they cannot see the figurative import of a thousand in Scripture. To accept that would instantly blow their beliefs out of the water. 10, 100, 1,000 and 10,000 are often used as round figures in Scripture to describe greater truths. We do the same today.
The term "a thousand" is used in most languages in a general figurative sense to represent a large number or a large indefinite period. Certain common numbers are frequently used in Scripture as valuable symbols to represent particular divine truths or ideas; a thousand and ten thousand are two such numbers. They are employed as familiar figures to impress deep spiritual principles in a distinctly comprehendible and identifiable way. It is not necessarily the
exact numerical size of the figure outlined that is important but the spiritual idea that it represents. In fact, English dictionaries recognize the indefinite nature of a thousand defining it variously as a very large number or a great number or amount. This use is very common in our daily language.
The phrase “a thousand” comes up a lot in every day conversation. For example:
“a picture is worth a thousand words” is a familiar saying. This simply tells us that much can be gleaned from a still print. An image can be more revealing and more influential than a substantial amount of text.
Another well-known phrase that some use is:
“A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.” This suggests that the greatest of endeavors starts with the first move – a great undertaking must start somewhere.
We may in passing say:
“I have a thousand things to do today.” However, the expression is no way intended to delineate an exact number, but rather a notion. It is simply a figure of speech.
Tourists are welcomed to Dublin airport, Ireland, by the popular Irish expression:
“Welcome to the City of a Thousand Welcomes.” This is simply a figurative communication epitomizing the friendliness and hospitality of the place.
People also use ‘a thousand’ as a round figure or as a phrase to describe a general amount. If they had $1053 (literally pronounced one thousand and fifty-three dollars) it wouldn't be uncommon or unusual to say I had a thousand dollars. They would simply round it off to a familiar even number. This is where 10, 100, 1,000, and 10,000 are often used. These are not wooden numbers.
This figure is also used to describe a long indeterminate period of power and government. Hitler boasted that the Third Reich would last a thousand years. The Nazi Party used the terms
Drittes Reich and Tausendjähriges Reich (Thousand-Year Reich) to describe the rule, power and vision of the Fascist kingdom. It wasn’t that Hitler limited his wicked dream to that period, but that it symbolically represented a long period of unparalleled supremacy.
Churchill also infamously said of the victory of the war,
“if we fail, the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age, made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will say, ‘This was their finest hour’” (Churchill in his speech on June 18, 1940).
People often mistakenly concentrate upon the actual figure revealed rather than what that figure represents. One hundred and forty and four thousand on the other hand, whilst rarely used (being found only in the deeply symbolic book of Revelation), is similarly used, only in an increased manner to impress a number that is completely unfathomable by human capability. The figure of one hundred and forty and four thousand should be viewed in relation to the biblical use of a thousand representing vastness and 12 representing authority.
It is a fact that a thousand is used as much in Scripture to refer to approximate amounts as it is literal ones. The phrase “a thousand” is repeatedly used by the Holy Spirit to describe an indefinite figure/period. Like 10, 100 and 10,000, a thousand is commonly used as an even round figure to represent New Testament truths. Revelation 20, a chapter in the most symbolic book in the Bible, fits this pattern effortlessly. To obtain a broad understanding of the biblical usage of a thousand (even if for the sake of argument it meant 1,000) it is sensible to also study the number 10,000, as both are used in a similar figurative manner throughout Scripture. Involving both in the same study better illustrates the symbolic usage of the number 1,000. One soon discovers, the terms a thousand and ten thousand are employed many times in Scripture, in varying figurative senses, to describe large numbers or vast periods of time. The expressions are also commonly used to symbolically describe great pictures of immeasurable vastness. Notwithstanding, the term “one thousand” is only found once in Scripture in Isaiah 30:17.
Few objective onlookers will surely dispute that “a thousand” is very loosely interpreted in much of the Bible’s literature. It is only the blinkered who must disagree on this figurative statement.
