The Gift of Tongues: its General Availability, Purpose, and Power

[marksman]

Yes, because original tongue speakers knew exactly what they were saying.

That is not evidence. That is supposition.

 

[marksman]

You are without a shred of proof backing your claims.

Mixed metaphors are my evidence. Try writing it in plain English.

 

[Dave L]

Mixed metaphors are my evidence. Try writing it in plain English.

Sounds as though you have no defense in your claims.

 

[marksman]

Speak in tongues and record it. Take it around to several sects for interpretation. You will get that many different interpretations.

That is not proof they have expired.

 

[Dave L]

That is not evidence. That is supposition.

Paul says so. That's good enough for me and anyone who values God's word.

 

[Dave L]

That is not proof they have expired.

It will be if you put it to the test.

 

[marksman]

Paul says so. That's good enough for me and anyone who values God's word.

Where?

 

[marksman]

It will be if you put it to the test.

Been there and done that and there is no doubt that tongues are alive and well.

 

[Dave L]

Where?

“He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:4) Why? because knowing what is said edifies.

 

[Dave L]

Been there and done that and there is no doubt that tongues are alive and well.

Not from what I hear.

 

[marksman]

“And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,” (Acts 8:18)

“For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end you may be established;” (Romans 1:11)

Those scriptures do not say tongues will pass away.

 

[Dave L]

Those scriptures do not say tongues will pass away.

It says they came through an apostle's hands beyond the two outpourings.

 

[marksman]

Not from what I hear.

And what you hear is evidence even though thousands of others hear differently.

You obviously don't know how to produce evidence.

 

[marksman]

It says they came through an apostle's hands beyond the two outpourings.

No they don't. That is a figment of your imagination.

 

[Dave L]

No they don't. That is a figment of your imagination.

I have scripture saying so. You have nothing but prejudice.

 

[Dave L]

And what you hear is evidence even though thousands of others hear differently.

You obviously don't know how to produce evidence.

I've been around too many Pentecostals to believe anything they say about the gifts. Scripture nailed it for me.

 

[marksman]

“He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.” (1 Corinthians 14:4) Why? because knowing what is said edifies.

Nothing in that verse that says tongues are being done away with. You really are clutching at straws to prove the unprovable.

 

[Dave L]

Nothing in that verse that says tongues are being done away with. You really are clutching at straws to prove the unprovable.

I'm saying the gifts today are phony based in part on that verse.

 

[marksman]

I've been around too many Pentecostals to believe anything they say about the gifts. Scripture nailed it for me.

If scripture nails it for you, why can't you produce some that say tongues have been removed.

 

[marksman]

I'm saying the gifts today are phony based in part on that verse.

That is not what you said and the meaning of the verse has nothing to do with what you are claiming.