The church the body of Christ doesnt just preach the name of Jesus but the redemption by the cross
THE GOSPELS ARE NOT NEW TESTAMENT
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Behold
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John, Luke, Matthew, and Mark, are presenting a historical and often eyewitness account of The Lord Jesus The Christ.... and His earthly Ministry.
John also reveals Jesus pre-incarnate.
The Crucifixion of Christ is the Heart of "The Gospel", so, they are presenting the Gospel, but they are not teaching it, they are revealing it.
Its Paul who came later, who received what we are to teach and preach as "The Gospel of the Grace..... of God".
shepherdsword
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I guess you missed the part where I pointed you to the sermon on the mount. It is summed up with this:
Mt 7:21-27 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Behold
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The Will of the Father, is that "everyone believe in Jesus, whom God sent".
If you read 2 Thess 1: 8-9, you'll read that Jesus is coming back to take vengeance upon all who do not "obey the Gospel"
How do you "obey the Gospel". ???????????????
A.) You BELIEVE IT. = Faith in Christ., as this is the "will of God" that you do, but He leaves it up to you, as you are the Believer, or not.
shepherdsword
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Jesus just preached an entire sermon on what the will of the Father is. Apologies if that exposes your "once saved always saved" doctrine of demons. Don't jerk the statement out of the context of John 6 and apply it here. Jesus laid out for us what the principles of the kingdom are. It's what one sees and understands when they are truly born again.
Behold
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The Sermon on the mount, was preached to Jews.......and noone in the audience was a Christian. = And nothing preached in the sermon on the mount can cause you to become a born again Christian.
See, Its the CROSS of CHRIST that birthed the New Testament Church.... Its the Cross of Christ that God offers to save YOU..........and you wont find The Cross of Christ in the sermon on the Mount, as its not The "Gospel". @shepherdsword
LoveYeshua
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use your head, it would mean you wont have access! it is offered to everyone since Jesus send the disciples to preach to the gentiles throughout the ends of the world. what he did preach is this; "Repent the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Matt4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
who put these false ideas in your head?
LoveYeshua
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shepherdsword
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Learn what Jesus said. Forsaking His commandments is the hallmark of false doctrine. The good news of the gospel is that we are empowered by grace to keep His word. Here is what he said. It stands in stark contrast to YOUR false teaching:
Mt 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
LoveYeshua
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How wrong can you be! of course Mark, Luke John and Matthew teach the gospel of Christ in Christ own words.
You are blind kike the pharisees were blind!
Matthew 13:14-15
Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: “‘“You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive.” For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’
LoveYeshua
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LoveYeshua
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Doug the gospel of Jesus Christ iour Lord is more than just believing and the cross, far more than that i am willing to help. just ask me
Behold
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If you own a NT, then read this verse written by Paul.
Galatians 1:8.
He tells YOU< that any other "Gospel" other then His, can be counted as cursed, and should be, no matter if its posted on a Forum or spoken by an Angel.
So, Paul's Gospel, is not the "sermon on the mount".....given to JEWS........Its "The Gsopel of the Grace of God", that is offering God's Son's Sacrifice for your sin........if you will BELIEVE. @LoveYeshua
Behold
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When you say the gospel is more then Jesus Dying on the Cross, you are proving that you are "anti-Cross" and incredibly deceived.
See you just proved you are a Cross Denier, by trying to ADD TO, The Cross of Christ, your opinion that something else is necessary.
Jesus told you that HE is the ONLY WAY to The Father,... John 14:6..... and you just denied it AGAIN... @LoveYeshua
[Mat 5:2-3 KJV] 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3 Blessed [are] the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus was teaching about the principles of the kingdom of heaven which is the prophetic kingdom on earth offered to Israel.........the kingdom was foretold in the old testament
regardless of whether his teachings were new testament or not, it remains that the gospels did not reflect the new testament since Christ did not die til the end of the gospels
Behold
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So, if im following your interesting theological logic..........
You are teaching..........that ...."because Jesus died at the end of the Gospels, they can't be the Gospel, but had Jesus died in the middle of the Gospels, then we have a winner".....
The kingdom of heaven was promised the little flock, the believing remnant of Israel
We are promised heaven not earth
Scripture does not say we do or do not have access to it
A real church????
The church formed with Paul's conversion is the church, the body of Christ, revealed in this dispensation
Behold
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Reader,
The born again are going to reign on This Earth, with The Lord Jesus.
If you've never visited Jerusalem, then you will for 1000 yrs.., if you are born again.
See the "new birth in Christ", and then the "millennial reign of Christ".....if you want to be a part of it.
I am saying that technically the four gospels arent new testament.....the new testament can not be in force until the death of the testator.....it wouldnt matter at what stage of the gospels he died......upon his death it would put in force the new testament
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