Mantis
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Some people don't understand that you can have a gun and not commit violence with it. You can have a sword and not live by the sword. Does that make sense?
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Some people don't understand that you can have a gun and not commit violence with it. You can have a sword and not live by the sword. Does that make sense?
Again, you can have a gun and not shoot anyone. I have guns, I have never shot anyone nor do I plan to.To live is Christ. It means to trust in Christ and to trust in Him. The same is true with living by the sword. You are trusting your sword.
Besides, Matthew 26:52 in the KJB and NASB say to take up the sword shall perish with the sword. Meaning, if you show a hand of force, it can lead to those with guns to think they are tougher and kill you. It becomes a fight or battle at some point. Hence, why turning the other cheek is (not acting violently or showing a force of violence) is better.
Yeah I don't know. Guns are fun.The phrase “live by the sword shall die by the sword” should not be read in a way whereby it forces us to ignore the context of what is going on, either. It’s clear Peter was acting in self defense in protecting his family (Jesus). Yet, many do not see that as a problem if they were to do it. Peter had no clue what these men who were coming with weapons for Jesus were going to do. Peter thought they were a threat to his Lord because of their weapons and they drawing near to his Lord. It would be like men coming with guns up to one’s little girls. Surely if one trusted or lived by their gun (sword), they would attack, right?
Yeah I don't know. Guns are fun.
Sooooo, it is "UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon"?Multiple people shot California church in Laguna Woods Orange County one person detained casualties | Daily Mail Online
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These MASS murders, and MANY more that we see on a regular basis, shows that it is both UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon!
The US Constitution that allows for this is VERY WRONG!
Hey mailmandan,So what is your solution? Disarm all law abiding citizens (Christians and non-Christians alike) in America so that only criminals will have guns and law abiding citizens will be helpless?
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Buffalo shooter targeted Black neighborhood, officials say
These MASS murders, and MANY more that we see on a regular basis, shows that it is both UNBIBLICAL and UNCHRISTIAN for anyone, especially if the are followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, to own any form of weapon!
The US Constitution that allows for this is VERY WRONG!
Ugh well duh. Of course they are dangerous. I was raised with them, hunting. I have been around firearms my whole life. I had a gun shop/federal firearms license. Our parents taught us the dangers of guns and we treat them with respect. I was a child when I learned about guns. Everyone in high school had guns in the back windows of their trucks. There were never school shootings. Kids fist fought to settle their differences. This is a stupid people problem, not a gun problem. I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns. I am not a toddler thanks.And also exceptionally dangerous. Follow the Lord, and don’t go beyond what is written. There is no clear teaching in the New Testament for self defense using lethal force. The story between Jesus and Peter in Matthew 26:47-56 makes this clear.
Bless your heart for exposing your reading comprehension to suppose Jesus command to buy a sword was so the Apostles and we could non-violently hunt.
Ugh well duh. Of course they are dangerous. I was raised with them, hunting. I have been around firearms my whole life. I had a gun shop/federal firearms license. Our parents taught us the dangers of guns and we treat them with respect. I was a child when I learned about guns. Everyone in high school had guns in the back windows of their trucks. There were never school shootings. Kids fist fought to settle their differences. This is a stupid people problem, not a gun problem. I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns. I am not a toddler thanks.
Guns aren’t the problem, and they’ll never be taken away, trust me!Ugh well duh. Of course they are dangerous. I was raised with them, hunting. I have been around firearms my whole life. I had a gun shop/federal firearms license. Our parents taught us the dangers of guns and we treat them with respect. I was a child when I learned about guns. Everyone in high school had guns in the back windows of their trucks. There were never school shootings. Kids fist fought to settle their differences. This is a stupid people problem, not a gun problem. I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns. I am not a toddler thanks.
I also grew up with guns and still own some. I have always enjoyed shooting (of all kinds) and used to hunt (for food of course). That said, guns are dangerous and it takes more than a knowledge of how they work to use them safely, regardless of the situation. Unfortunately, stupid people own guns and use them dangerously and irresponsibly. Why? Because they are spiritually and/or morally deficient.
It has nothing to do with stupidity, which sounds like junior high thinking: "you're just stupid, and so's your old man".
Or false pride, which you clearly show when you write "I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns."
What is false pride?I also grew up with guns and still own some. I have always enjoyed shooting (of all kinds) and used to hunt (for food of course). That said, guns are dangerous and it takes more than a knowledge of how they work to use them safely, regardless of the situation. Unfortunately, stupid people own guns and use them dangerously and irresponsibly. Why? Because they are spiritually and/or morally deficient.
It has nothing to do with stupidity, which sounds like junior high thinking: "you're just stupid, and so's your old man".
Or false pride, which you clearly show when you write "I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns."
Hi @Mantis I think in different parts of the world with different traditions, ppl are likely to have different ideas about guns, depending on what the local customs have been for generations...Yeah sorry I couldn't think of a better word than stupid. I wasn't always a christian but I have always had guns. I have never wanted to shoot anyone. Nothing changed with my moral compass regarding guns when I became a christian. It is a people problem Maybe not a stupid people problem but an unscrupulous people problem.,
It’s lunatics who are the problem.Yeah sorry I couldn't think of a better word than stupid. I wasn't always a christian but I have always had guns. I have never wanted to shoot anyone. Nothing changed with my moral compass regarding guns when I became a christian. It is a people problem Maybe not a stupid people problem but an unscrupulous people problem.,
Yes, not law abiding gun owners.It’s lunatics who are the problem.
Don’t listen to people who buy into that liberal garbage, perhaps they have false pride.What is false pride?
Ugh well duh. Of course they are dangerous. I was raised with them, hunting. I have been around firearms my whole life. I had a gun shop/federal firearms license. Our parents taught us the dangers of guns and we treat them with respect. I was a child when I learned about guns. Everyone in high school had guns in the back windows of their trucks. There were never school shootings. Kids fist fought to settle their differences. This is a stupid people problem, not a gun problem. I get pretty defensive when people try to "teach" me the dangers of guns. I am not a toddler thanks.