The Iran situation

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Big Boy Johnson

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It'll never happen. Israel has nuclear weapons.

Yeah and so does Pakistan so when they all gang up on Israel they will threaten nuclear war but it will be a conventional war conflict like we just witnessed with Israel and Iran

Israel had a thing they call the Samson doctrine.

That is if they are cornered and are about to be taken over and literally destroyed, then at that point they will light up the entire middle east with nukes making the entire area a radioactive wasteland killing themselves and everyone else in the middle east

If you read the account of what Samson did in the old testament you'll get the idea.
 

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Yeah and so does Pakistan so when they all gang up on Israel they will threaten nuclear war but it will be a conventional war conflict like we just witnessed with Israel and Iran

Israel had a thing they call the Samson doctrine.

That is if they are cornered and are about to be taken over and literally destroyed, then at that point they will light up the entire middle east with nukes making the entire area a radioactive wasteland killing themselves and everyone else in the middle east

If you read the account of what Samson did in the old testament you'll get the idea.
Yes, Pakistan has them, too. But most countries that have them have no intention of ever using them. They are a deterrent.

Also, listen to what you're saying. The Muslim world hate each other more than they hate the Israelis. In what scenario would Saudi Arabia team up with Iran to destroy Israel and risk war with the United States?
 

Big Boy Johnson

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The Muslim world hate each other more than they hate the Israelis.

Wrong!

Both factions of islam have come together before against their common enemy Israel and they will do it again. You'll see.

What you talkin bout Willus?

Saudi Arabia was behind 9/11 and they hate the Jews just as much as Iran and they all hate the US
 

Matthias

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They've tried it in the past and the Arabs lost. Twice. (1967 & 1973)


I attended a lecture delivered in Georgia by a man named Gershon Salomon. He was an officer in the IDF and he was convinced that thousands of angels were dispatched from heaven to save his life on the battlefield. He wouldn’t have survived, and Israel wouldn’t have prevailed, had the God of the Jews not been for them. It was a remarkable story, and the audience rushed afterward to give him the donations he was seeking.

Salomon is now deceased (2022). He was at the time I attended his lecture the leader of a group known as The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement.

A link to their website, for those who are - or might be - interested: Temple Mount & Land of Israel Faithful Movement

You’re unsure that the God of the Jews exists. Consider the Jew. They shouldn’t exist without their God. If there is no God, there would be no Jews. They would have been annihilated from the face of the earth thousands of years ago.

P.S.

The lecture took place in the late ‘90’s or the early 00’s. As I was eating supper the thought occurs to me that my memory might be faulty. Here is a link to one brief account of his military service.

 
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You’re unsure that the God of the Jews exists. Consider the Jew. They shouldn’t exist without their God. If there is no God, there would be no Jews. They would have been annihilated from the face of the earth thousands of years ago.
They were almost annihilated at the hands of the Nazis. Where was their God at when they were being systematically executed in the death camps?
 

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They were almost annihilated at the hands of the Nazis.

Yes.

Where was their God at when they were being systematically executed in the death camps?

The same place he always is.

“Our Father in heaven. Hallowed by your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”

The majority of the Jews have rejected the Messiah. To reject the Messiah is to reject the God - his and their God - who sent him. Their God is going to let them reap - for a while - what they have sown. A remnant will be saved. In order for that to happen, there has to be a remnant to save. That is why Jews still exist in the world.

It’s happened before. Jewish history. God has always raised up and sent them a savior (Nehemiah 9:7).

Tell God and the savior whom he has sent to buzz off and do it your own way, on your own terms. What is the result of that? They lose again and again in that scenario. Yet God isn’t finished with them. And so he intervenes.
 
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Well, this probably changes things...


The only thing that will truly change things is accepting the one whom they’ve rejected. Israel is still relying on its own power and on the power of the nations of the world that it makes allies with. It’s the same strategy that Israel has repeated throughout its history. Conquering and conquered. Delivered from defeat and captivity. Conquering and conquered. Delivered from defeat and captivity.

Their might and the might of their allies won’t save them. It never has. It never will. The cycle repeats until the final event, which is yet some time in the future.

Israel in rebellion against God is a national (and international) disaster waiting to happen.
 

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He'll just have to get over it and no need for you to use foul language.






Oh there's coming a war where all the islam nations gang up on Israel that makes this little skirmish look like child's play.
I say Trumps wording is spot on in regards to reality tho. Yes it's totaly fitting to the situation in fact !

You know how many morons freek out about the words used ! but seriously truly such have no regards of people being killed or could be killed etc etc infact ! Trumps words are 100% needed in this case ! it's for the effect in regards peoples lives homes etc are much more important than for morons to make pathetic claims on words that are delusional in freeking them out. The subject is coming from compasion that Trump has for the situation ! Trump has fixed the problem !
But Now the jerks come out.

Regarding Islam and Israel, they will just have to wait it out, till USA becomes lead by the Socialist Democrats again and then they can just as easy go gang up on Israel easy again.
 
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David in NJ

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I'm more annoyed than anything else. This government, and a significant portion of the population, is filled with people that think nuclear Armageddon will make Jesus happy.
Well, i am with you on the TWO self-centered political parties = Dems & Reps

The bombings were to remove the threat of a nuclear weapon that is PROMISED to be used against Israel................

How would the world powers react if Iran launched a nuclear bomb on Israel?

Does God want a Nuclear bomb to be used against Israel?

Points to ponder.
 

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The only thing that will truly change things is accepting the one whom they’ve rejected. Israel is still relying on its own power and on the power of the nations of the world that it makes allies with. It’s the same strategy that Israel has repeated throughout its history. Conquering and conquered. Delivered from defeat and captivity. Conquering and conquered. Delivered from defeat and captivity.

Their might and the might of their allies won’t save them. It never has. It never will. The cycle repeats until the final event, which is yet some time in the future.

Israel in rebellion against God is a national (and international) disaster waiting to happen.
Someone SEES thru the eyes of the Holy Scriptures
 

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Times and technology has changed AND = Zechariah 14:1-2
In Israel's favor. Their technology is far superior to anything the Arabs have been able to produce... or buy and then "upgrade".

Russian produced T-72 export with some off the shelf upgrades. It might look a little fancy, but it's still cold war tech that's poorly maintained with a poorly trained crew.

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In Israel's favor. Their technology is far superior to anything the Arabs have been able to produce... or buy and then "upgrade".

Russian produced T-72 export with some off the shelf upgrades. It might look a little fancy, but it's still cold war tech that's poorly maintained with a poorly trained crew.

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Yes, Israel has better but they can easily be overwhelmed when the nations are gathered by God to judge Her = Zech 14:1-2
 

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They were almost annihilated at the hands of the Nazis. Where was their God at when they were being systematically executed in the death camps?
Hitlers Socialist Germany was totaly in bed with the so called Jews in fact ! and it's They who wanted them German Jews killed ! Why ? because around 90% of the German Jews were an outright threat to that faction of so called Jew ?
The real Jews knew only to well that the so called Zionist were totaly !

So Hitler tryed all that he could in fact, so as to get the German Jews to be lead by the so called Zionist Jews !
Hitlers Socialist Party promoted the Zionist news papers to print their propaganda ! but stoped all the other Jewish news papers from being alowed to print in fact !

So when Hitlers Socialist Party was using the Art of Socialist propaganda, that they were Masters of such warfair tactics ! with the hellp of the so called Zionist Jews help in fact, That was above Hitler Head in fact ! as they came into his Office, as the door was always open to them in fact all throught the years of Nazi Germany !
So Hitlers Socialist Propaganda worked on the stupid Germans a treat ! but such propaganda did not work on German Jews, because they understood such game plays in fact !
That's why the Order was given to kill all of the Jews That were a threat to the so called Zionist !
The so called Zionist were a creation of the Talmud whore in fact and was helped by the Rothschilds money and Co !

The real Jews Hebrews are the brightest people, it was they who created and advanced the world ! with out such as them Hebrew people, we would all be now only at the stage before the wheel was invented in fact.

God does not step in on any case, like one would think ? but is the gravity their of regarding the foundations that are set solid !

A lot of carnal idiots think of God some what as a man that will come out to help you and start to pull levers, so as to help you etc out etc etc ? but No !
It's all about foundations ! and they who disregards such foundations are going to have Hell to pay ! for they reaped what they Sow ? not that what they may sow, may hit them in this world ?
But such will inflict others and the majority, in regards such Sins ! but the one who sowed and lived for this world, will burn in Hell for ever ! Why well because they are a Curse in fact ! So they ger their's in the end.

So we have people who abide with God and they who don't ! they who don't are Lost ! and are a Curse ! for they are on the path of their own works ! Mans works, that is an abomination in fact ! That's why it's such as they, They killed Jesus in fact, for they knew not what they were doing.
So their is two types of people The Saved who abide and The Lost who are abomination to God in fact ! and are a Curse on all and self !
 

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The Arabs learned not to go to war with the Israelis.

But, they cannot help themselves because their father the devil continually leads them to try and destroy Israel




They were almost annihilated at the hands of the Nazis. Where was their God at when they were being systematically executed in the death camps?

The same happens to Christians that turn away from the Lord refusing to walk with Him - the devil has a free hand to slap them around.

The reason God is protecting Israel now if for His Name's sake and because when Jesus returns God says He's coming back to Israel so it will be protected although they still have lots of hard times due to not walking with the Lord.




Leaked US intelligence says Iran’s nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

If true, then the US military will need to make a few return visits and drop a bunch more surprises on Iran

Trump is committed now, he said Iran must never be allowed to have nukes.

So to save face, Trump must go back and bomb Iran some more if this is true which is may not be.

Many in Iran hate their government so much they are secret spies for Israel so in the coming days and weeks Israel will gather inside intel to be able to better understand where Iran stands now.




The only thing that will truly change things is accepting the one whom they’ve rejected.

That's not going to happen until the end of the great tribulation




Trumps words are 100% needed in this case

Yes, of course. Dropping the F bomb always makes things better! :rolleyes:




Russian produced T-72 export with some off the shelf upgrades

Off the shelf?

Like from Walmart or Home Depot? :funlaugh2





So when Hitlers Socialist Party was using the Art of Socialist propaganda, that they were Masters of such warfair tactics ! with the hellp of the so called Zionist Jews help in fact, That was above Hitler Head in fact ! as they came into his Office, as the door was always open to them in fact all throught the years of Nazi Germany !

What a load of total garbage!

Hitler was killing Jews, not working with them. :rolleyes:
 

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But, they cannot help themselves because their father the devil continually leads them to try and destroy Israel
Well, not many Arab countries have attacked Israel. Iran has because it's Iran.

The same happens to Christians that turn away from the Lord refusing to walk with Him - the devil has a free hand to slap them around.

The reason God is protecting Israel now if for His Name's sake and because when Jesus returns God says He's coming back to Israel so it will be protected although they still have lots of hard times due to not walking with the Lord.
Victim blaming. The fact of the matter is, God had the power to stop it and didn't. The Jewish children were innocent. But God let them die, too.