The Kingdom of God.... Is it within you?
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With a little more context from the words of Jeremiah we find the covenant in view is not the covenant to the nation of Israel. It is pointing to the new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Jacob, not according to the covenant God made with their fathers. The covenant they brake. Jeremiah is writing of Israel of God, not an ethnic nation, but all people of God that are of the NEW COVENANT that God shall make with them through Christ. Israel of God is Israel that shall never cease from being an elect chosen nation a holy people unto God. While unholy Israel shall be cast away forever, just as unholy Gentiles shall also be, there shall always been the remnant according to election of grace within Israel, and together with Gentiles of faith are "the Israel of God."
Jeremiah 31:31-37 (KJV) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
The SEED (Christ) of Israel is assurance that Israel of God shall never cease from being a nation, a chosen, holy nation before the Lord. But the unholy seed of Israel ethnically, all who remain in unbelief have been cast off forever. Only the remnant of them shall be saved.
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Compare your words above, to God's Word:
Jeremiah 31:35-37 KJV
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Yes, this is a conditional promise.
So, did the sun rise today? The moon? Yes. So then, did Israel cease from being a nation before God? No.
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The time for choosing Israel alone to be His representative as the Kingdom of God physically on this earth, has long ago ceased to be the holy people, and holy nation unto God. God chose them for a purpose. That was to be the nation from whom Christ would come. Once Christ came the purpose for having chosen the nation of Israel is fulfilled.
The dispersion was of Christian Jews as well as Gentiles of faith converted and dispersed with them through the Gospel preached in the power of the Holy Spirit.
All of the ethnic seed of Israel through Christ are not cast off. There is always a remnant according to election of grace within Israel in unbelief that are eternally saved. The seed cast off of Israel "for all that they have done" are not the Israel of God. It is the ethnic nation that remains in unbelief that are cast away by God forever! Ethnic Israel since the advent of Christ coming to earth a man is no different than any other nation of the earth! It is not being an ethnic nation that makes the Israel of God a holy people unto God! It is through being a Jew of faith in Christ that makes her the Israel of God together with Gentiles of faith also.
Johann
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Hos_2:23- Israel is still God's covenant people and have not been replaced-Replacement Theory.
Which in time past. +**Eph_2:12.
were not. FS111, +Gen_18:27.
a people. 1Pe_2:9, Deu_32:21, Psa_18:43, Isa_19:25, *Hos_1:9; *Hos_1:10; *>Hos_2:23, *Rom_9:25; *Rom_9:26; Rom_10:19, Eph_2:3; +*Eph_2:12.
but are now. Deu_27:9, Joh_12:23, Rom_4:17; +*Rom_15:8, Phm_1:11.
the people. Exo_6:7, Deu_32:9, Psa_102:18, Isa_62:4; **+Isa_65:1; Isa_65:15, **Zec_2:11, *Mat_28:20, Luk_15:6, *Joh_10:16, +*Act_15:14, Rom_1:5; Rom_9:25-26, +*Eph_1:13.
of God. Num_15:41, Deu_27:9, *2Sa_7:24, Act_27:23, *Heb_4:9; *Heb_11:25.
not obtained mercy. Perfect passive participle. Hos_1:6.
have obtained mercy. First aorist passive participle. From "the long antecedent state" to "the single event of conversion which ended it" (Hort, cited by A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures). 1Pe_1:3, Psa_118:2; Psa_145:7; Psa_145:20, Isa_35:8, Hos_1:6; *Hos_2:1; *Hos_2:23, +*Mat_5:7, *Luk_19:9, Rom_9:16; Rom_11:6-7; Rom_11:30-31; +*Rom_12:1, 1Co_7:25, 2Co_4:1, 1Th_5:9, 1Ti_1:13, 2Ti_2:10, +*Tit_3:5, +*Heb_4:16.
1Pe 2:10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
1Pe 2:11 Beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul,
1Pe 2:12 having your conduct honorable among the Gentiles, that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works which they observe, glorify God in the day of visitation.
Notice the context @marks
having your conversation honest among the Gentiles] On “conversation,” see note on chap. 1Pe_1:15. There is perhaps no better equivalent for the Greek word than “honest;” but it carries with it the thought of a nobler, more honourable, form of goodness than the English adjective. The special stress laid on the conduct of the disciples “among the Gentiles” confirms the view taken throughout these notes that the Epistle is addressed mainly to those of the Asiatic Churches who were by birth or adoption of “the Circumcision.”
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Physical Israel ceased to be a nation multiple times during its exiles over more than two millennia. That Israel does not satisfy Jeremiah 31:35-37.
There is only one Israel that does, and it is the Spiritual Israel of God, comprised of those faithful and obedient to God, His Son, and His Covenant through the ages.
That Israel has never ceased to be a Nation before God.
Ethnic Israel ceased to be a nation multiple times during its exiles over more than two millennia.
Johann
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Let's use the whole chapter-and do some cross references-
Jer 31:1 "At the same time," says the LORD, "I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be My people."
Jer 31:2 Thus says the LORD: "The people who survived the sword Found grace in the wilderness Israel, when I went to give him rest."
Jer 31:3 The LORD has appeared of old to me, saying: "Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.
Jer 31:4 Again I will build you, and you shall be rebuilt, O virgin of Israel! You shall again be adorned with your tambourines, And shall go forth in the dances of those who rejoice.
Jer 31:5 You shall yet plant vines on the mountains of Samaria; The planters shall plant and eat them as ordinary food.
Jer 31:6 For there shall be a day When the watchmen will cry on Mount Ephraim, 'Arise, and let us go up to Zion, To the LORD our God.' "
Jer 31:7 For thus says the LORD: "Sing with gladness for Jacob, And shout among the chief of the nations; Proclaim, give praise, and say, 'O LORD, save Your people, The remnant of Israel!'
Jer 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, And gather them from the ends of the earth, Among them the blind and the lame, The woman with child And the one who labors with child, together; A great throng shall return there.
Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping, And with supplications I will lead them. I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters, In a straight way in which they shall not stumble; For I am a Father to Israel, And Ephraim is My firstborn.
Jer 31:10 "Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, 'He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.'
Jer 31:11 For the LORD has redeemed Jacob, And ransomed him from the hand of one stronger than he.
Jer 31:12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, Streaming to the goodness of the LORD For wheat and new wine and oil, For the young of the flock and the herd; Their souls shall be like a well-watered garden, And they shall sorrow no more at all.
Jer 31:13 "Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, And the young men and the old, together; For I will turn their mourning to joy, Will comfort them, And make them rejoice rather than sorrow.
Jer 31:14 I will satiate the soul of the priests with abundance, And My people shall be satisfied with My goodness, says the LORD."
Jer 31:15 Thus says the LORD: "A voice was heard in Ramah, Lamentation and bitter weeping, Rachel weeping for her children, Refusing to be comforted for her children, Because they are no more."
Jer 31:16 Thus says the LORD: "Refrain your voice from weeping, And your eyes from tears; For your work shall be rewarded, says the LORD, And they shall come back from the land of the enemy.
Jer 31:17 There is hope in your future, says the LORD, That your children shall come back to their own border.
Jer 31:18 "I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself: 'You have chastised me, and I was chastised, Like an untrained bull; Restore me, and I will return, For You are the LORD my God.
Jer 31:19 Surely, after my turning, I repented; And after I was instructed, I struck myself on the thigh; I was ashamed, yes, even humiliated, Because I bore the reproach of my youth.'
Jer 31:20 Is Ephraim My dear son? Is he a pleasant child? For though I spoke against him, I earnestly remember him still; Therefore My heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him, says the LORD.
Jer 31:21 "Set up signposts, Make landmarks; Set your heart toward the highway, The way in which you went. Turn back, O virgin of Israel, Turn back to these your cities.
Jer 31:22 How long will you gad about, O you backsliding daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the earth—A woman shall encompass a man."
Jer 31:23 Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: "They shall again use this speech in the land of Judah and in its cities, when I bring back their captivity: 'The LORD bless you, O home of justice, and mountain of holiness!'
Jer 31:24 And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all its cities together, farmers and those going out with flocks.
Jer 31:25 For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul."
Jer 31:26 After this I awoke and looked around, and my sleep was sweet to me.
Jer 31:27 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast.
Jer 31:28 And it shall come to pass, that as I have watched over them to pluck up, to break down, to throw down, to destroy, and to afflict, so I will watch over them to build and to plant, says the LORD.
Jer 31:29 In those days they shall say no more: 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children's teeth are set on edge.'
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.
The New Covenant
Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—
Jer 31:32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD.
Jer 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Jer 31:34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."
Jer 31:35 Thus says the LORD, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The LORD of hosts is His name):
Jer 31:36 "If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the LORD, Then the seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever."
Jer 31:37 Thus says the LORD: "If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the LORD.
Jer 31:38 "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that the city shall be built for the LORD—from the Tower of Hananel to the Corner Gate.
Jer 31:39 The surveyor's line shall again extend straight forward over the hill Gareb; then it shall turn toward Goath.
Jer 31:40 And the whole valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the Brook Kidron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, shall be holy to the LORD. It shall not be plucked up or thrown down anymore forever."
Johann
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Two Israels.
Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
1. Of Israel:
Not all Israel
The children of the flesh
Not the children of God
Not the children of the promise
Not counted for the seed
2. All Israel:
Not of Israel
Not the children of the flesh
The children of God
The children of the promise
Counted for the seed
Only one of these two Israels shall be saved.
Romans 11
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Only the faithful obedient spiritual "all Israel", comprised of the believing elect beloved remnant from Israel (Romans 9:27; Romans 11:1-5,26,28), and believers from among the Gentiles (Romans 11:11), shall be saved.
Hold on a minute, check out Isaiah 60.
Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. 20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.
If we are to take all these things literally then the Jeremiah 31:36 promise is a promise that will come to pass, meaning Israel will cease from being a nation forever. And if we take this one step further then it means there can be no unconditional, eternal promises made to the ethnic nation of Israel.
For example Ezekiel 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Everything taken literally so far means this verse cannot be referring to the ethnic nation of Israel because as Isaiah 60:19-20 shows the ordinances of the sun and moon are not being obeyed according to the ordinances given in Genesis 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
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