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Is Jesus God?
Is Mary His mother?
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I already explained what she was the mother of. Case closed. Max Est Wrongum!
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Is Jesus God?
Is Mary His mother?
Case closed..
Pax et Bonum!
We DisagreeThey are not all the same.
The king of the north gives Israel an army 3.5 years before the time of the end.
The same as the host is given to the little horn .
Daniel 8:11
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
3.5 years after this host is given to Israel ,the king of the south(beast from the pit)attacks Jerusalem and kills the two witnesses.
This corresponds to when the Muslims are taught to attack the army of Dajall in the Hadith.
The little in horn=beast from the sea=Israel
The host given to the little horn=armed forces of the north given to Israel by Israel's ally the king of the north.Possibly US and or NATO troops.
Beast from the pit=Muslims from Iran to Egypt.
If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?We Disagree
Daniel's (Little Horn), Paul's (Man Of Sin), And John's (The Beast) A Literal Human Man,, That Will Be Present On This Earth At The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ
The figure mentioned above will be a "Future" literal human man, and he will be present on earth in a living human body to witness the "Future" second coming and final judgment as scripture clearly teaches below
Daniel's (Little Horn) Present On Earth At The Second Coming
Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Paul's (Man Of Sin) Present On Earth At The Second Coming
2 Thessalonians 2:3-8KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
John's (The Beast) Present On Earth At The Second Coming
Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
No, not a saint in Christ Jesus anymore, but only become Christian in name, as well as a preacher of his own gospel.The beast isn't Christian .
However, they plainly can foul up interpretation of Scriptural prophecy.Guess you don't know much about the Quran do you.
Well,there isn't anything Christian about Islam.
Christians are not going to attack Jerusalem.No, not a saint in Christ Jesus anymore, but only become Christian in name, as well as a preacher of his own gospel.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you. (2 Peter 2)
But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots (Jude)
Scripture plainly says such beasts are spots in our assemblies, corrupting the doctrine of Christ, and the manners of the churches of God.
They're not other religions, that no sincere Christian can be decieved and corrupted by.
However, they plainly can foul up interpretation of Scriptural prophecy.
I get all teaching of things of the true God, and interpretation of His prophecy, from the Bible alone.
Such as above, where Peter and Jude say such beasts, are only found within the body of Christ, brutalizing the Scriptures for their own ends.
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
And John calls all antichrists, false apostles with their own gospel and doctrine in the name of Christ.
You'd do better interpreting prophecy of Scripture, with more Bible and lest Kooran.
I could have told you that without becoming some kind of expert in it. All we need to know is that Mahoomad's false god condemns anyone believing the True God can beget a Son of His own on earth.
Antichrists were coming out from the apostles' doctrine, to preach their own gospels, long before Mahoomad.
Antichrists are anti Jesus Christ, who work through false ministry, to destroy the faith of Jesus and the Scriptures from within His churches.
There were no antichrists, until Christ is come in the flesh.
Antichrists are false christs, that say, Here is Christ. Or there is Christ.
The last great antichrist beast and false apostle, will be making himself Christ come again in the flesh on earth, just before Jesus Christ does appear a second time on earth Himself.
He will do so by being the greatest subtle brutalizer of the gospel of Jesus Christ to ever come.
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
And so we see, antichrists are false christs, pointing to themselves or others, as Christ come again in the flesh on earth, by preaching their own gospel and cross and faith.
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Only if you are one of the false prophets, teachers, apostles, christs, and beasts.I find these interpretations disturbing. Christians need to realize that when they characterize these beasts as Christian, or Catholicism -
they attribute all the evils of the last days to themselves.
Only the outwardly religious convert to religion, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, etc...Why would anybody want to convert to Christianity
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.when there's a majority in the Church who believe the CHURCH would produce the beast, man of sin, the harlot, the little horn, etc,!?
False teachers demonize themselves.Talk about self-demonization!
Not Christians in Christ Jesus.Christians are not going to attack Jerusalem.
You don't have any truth in you.You just spout garbage about christians like yourself who have fallen away from the truth.Not Christians in Christ Jesus.
But only those calling themselves Christians in the widespread organization of Christian churches headed by the last great beast and antichrist on earth, of which many Christians will be seduced, as well as Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc...and unbelievers among nations.
Including ten national rulers giving their power to their new spiritual Christian leader and false christ on earth.
As I said, less Kooran garbage, and more Bible truth.
You go ahead and worry about the Muslims, and I'll stay focused on the true doctrine of Christ in Scripture, vs the false doctrine of false christs, that preach their own gospel in the name of Jesus Christ.
The Catholic Church of today, is not that of the Holy Roman Empire.wow, just wow... nice drive by smear
Happy Feast of Mary, the Mother of God!
Pax et Bonum
All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.You don't have any truth in you.You just spout garbage about christians like yourself who have fallen away from the truth.
Fact is,you don't know much of anything .You are so out of touch with reality that you don't know what an antichrist is much less a beast in the Bible.
Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.And by the way.
Its not Kooran.Its Quran
It is the lie they believe before their destruction.Something else you can't seem to comprehend.
All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.
Perhaps you would like to show why antichrists are not false apostles, as John says, and false teachers are not beasts brutalizing Scripture, as Peter and Jude say.
You see, my definition of such things is from Scripture, to show true interrpeation of prphecy of Scripture.
Your's is only from your own mind, in order to teach your own prophecy of things to come: False prophecy of a false prophet, wrested falsely from Scripture.
You see how that works?
Or, you can for once actually address my arguments from quoted Scripture, and show how false prophets and teachers are not antichrists and ministerial beasts
Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.
Have I dishonored the great false prophet Mahooomed?
You're something else.
The Kooooran is nothing but a bunch of twisted rehashing of the OT, in order to make the promised seed be by Ishmool, rather than Isaac, and that great prophet to be Maoooomed, rather than Jesus Christ.
I have no more respect for that third-rate garbage, than I do with some teaching that does away with Jesus Christ's reign on earth, which will last at least a thousand years.
Exactly how many christians have you heard say that Jesus is not the Christ?All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.
Perhaps you would like to show why antichrists are not false apostles, as John says, and false teachers are not beasts brutalizing Scripture, as Peter and Jude say.
You see, my definition of such things is from Scripture, to show true interrpeation of prphecy of Scripture.
Your's is only from your own mind, in order to teach your own prophecy of things to come: False prophecy of a false prophet, wrested falsely from Scripture.
You see how that works?
Or, you can for once actually address my arguments from quoted Scripture, and show how false prophets and teachers are not antichrists and ministerial beasts
Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.
Have I dishonored the great false prophet Mahooomed?
You're something else.
The Kooooran is nothing but a bunch of twisted rehashing of the OT, in order to make the promised seed be by Ishmool, rather than Isaac, and that great prophet to be Maoooomed, rather than Jesus Christ.
I have no more respect for that third-rate garbage, than I do with some teaching that does away with Jesus Christ's reign on earth, which will last at least a thousand years.
The Future Human Man, The Antichrist Seen Below In (Daniel) 11:37 Will Be A Hebrew/Jew In Decent, His Fathers Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?
Or are you saying the king of the north will give his armed forces to himself?
Daniel 8:12
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
Wrong preacher.They are kings of nations believing the wrong preachers.
Preachers of Christ don't attack any nation, but pray for the rulers over nations.
If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?
Or are you saying the king of the north will give his armed forces to himself?
Daniel 8:12
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
The Jews in Israel aren't going to receive a Muslim as their awaited upon Messiah, it's that simpleAnd now here is another thing that you don't comprehend.Mohammed in the Quran was converting christians to Islam.He was causing them to depart from the faith.I understand this because I read it.Ive read who he was talking to and the lies he was telling those christians.
So while you waiting for someone to come and lead many christians astray,Mohammed already has.
Today 25 percent of the world's population follow Mohammed.
If you have paid any attention to our conversation,you would know we are talking about those who attack Israel.The Jews in Israel aren't going to receive a Muslim as their awaited upon Messiah, it's that simple
I apologize, I fully agree that Muslim forces will attack Jerusalem and fulfill the time of the Gentiles as Jerusalem is trodden under foot for 3.5 yearsIf you have paid any attention to our conversation,you would know we are talking about those who attack Israel.
It looks like that could very well happen in the near future.I apologize, I fully agree that Muslim forces will attack Jerusalem and fulfill the time of the Gentiles as Jerusalem is trodden under foot for 3.5 years
I believe Israel will make a drastic move on the Muslims dome of the rock, 2nd most holy site of Muslims
I believe Israel will try to take the historical "Temple Mount", and it will be world Muslim war against Israel