The Last Great Beast and Mouth on Earth

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They are not all the same.
The king of the north gives Israel an army 3.5 years before the time of the end.
The same as the host is given to the little horn .

Daniel 8:11
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

3.5 years after this host is given to Israel ,the king of the south(beast from the pit)attacks Jerusalem and kills the two witnesses.

This corresponds to when the Muslims are taught to attack the army of Dajall in the Hadith.

The little in horn=beast from the sea=Israel

The host given to the little horn=armed forces of the north given to Israel by Israel's ally the king of the north.Possibly US and or NATO troops.

Beast from the pit=Muslims from Iran to Egypt.
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Daniel's (Little Horn), Paul's (Man Of Sin), And John's (The Beast) A Literal Human Man,, That Will Be Present On This Earth At The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

The figure mentioned above will be a "Future" literal human man, and he will be present on earth in a living human body to witness the "Future" second coming and final judgment as scripture clearly teaches below

Daniel's (Little Horn) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Paul's (Man Of Sin) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

2 Thessalonians 2:3-8KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

John's (The Beast) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
 
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We Disagree

Daniel's (Little Horn), Paul's (Man Of Sin), And John's (The Beast) A Literal Human Man,, That Will Be Present On This Earth At The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

The figure mentioned above will be a "Future" literal human man, and he will be present on earth in a living human body to witness the "Future" second coming and final judgment as scripture clearly teaches below

Daniel's (Little Horn) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Paul's (Man Of Sin) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

2 Thessalonians 2:3-8KJV
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

John's (The Beast) Present On Earth At The Second Coming

Revelation 19:19-20KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?

Or are you saying the king of the north will give his armed forces to himself?



Daniel 8:12
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
 

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The beast isn't Christian .
No, not a saint in Christ Jesus anymore, but only become Christian in name, as well as a preacher of his own gospel.

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you. (2 Peter 2)

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots (Jude)

Scripture plainly says such beasts are spots in our assemblies, corrupting the doctrine of Christ, and the manners of the churches of God.

They're not other religions, that no sincere Christian can be decieved and corrupted by.

Guess you don't know much about the Quran do you.
However, they plainly can foul up interpretation of Scriptural prophecy.

I get all teaching of things of the true God, and interpretation of His prophecy, from the Bible alone.

Such as above, where Peter and Jude say such beasts, are only found within the body of Christ, brutalizing the Scriptures for their own ends.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And John calls all antichrists, false apostles with their own gospel and doctrine in the name of Christ.

You'd do better interpreting prophecy of Scripture, with more Bible and lest Kooran.
Well,there isn't anything Christian about Islam.

I could have told you that without becoming some kind of expert in it. All we need to know is that Mahoomad's false god condemns anyone believing the True God can beget a Son of His own on earth.

Antichrists were coming out from the apostles' doctrine, to preach their own gospels, long before Mahoomad.

Antichrists are anti Jesus Christ, who work through false ministry, to destroy the faith of Jesus and the Scriptures from within His churches.

There were no antichrists, until Christ is come in the flesh.

Antichrists are false christs, that say, Here is Christ. Or there is Christ.

The last great antichrist beast and false apostle, will be making himself Christ come again in the flesh on earth, just before Jesus Christ does appear a second time on earth Himself.

He will do so by being the greatest subtle brutalizer of the gospel of Jesus Christ to ever come.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

And so we see, antichrists are false christs, pointing to themselves or others, as Christ come again in the flesh on earth, by preaching their own gospel and cross and faith.

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
 

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No, not a saint in Christ Jesus anymore, but only become Christian in name, as well as a preacher of his own gospel.

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you. (2 Peter 2)

But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.


These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots (Jude)

Scripture plainly says such beasts are spots in our assemblies, corrupting the doctrine of Christ, and the manners of the churches of God.

They're not other religions, that no sincere Christian can be decieved and corrupted by.


However, they plainly can foul up interpretation of Scriptural prophecy.

I get all teaching of things of the true God, and interpretation of His prophecy, from the Bible alone.

Such as above, where Peter and Jude say such beasts, are only found within the body of Christ, brutalizing the Scriptures for their own ends.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And John calls all antichrists, false apostles with their own gospel and doctrine in the name of Christ.

You'd do better interpreting prophecy of Scripture, with more Bible and lest Kooran.


I could have told you that without becoming some kind of expert in it. All we need to know is that Mahoomad's false god condemns anyone believing the True God can beget a Son of His own on earth.

Antichrists were coming out from the apostles' doctrine, to preach their own gospels, long before Mahoomad.

Antichrists are anti Jesus Christ, who work through false ministry, to destroy the faith of Jesus and the Scriptures from within His churches.

There were no antichrists, until Christ is come in the flesh.

Antichrists are false christs, that say, Here is Christ. Or there is Christ.

The last great antichrist beast and false apostle, will be making himself Christ come again in the flesh on earth, just before Jesus Christ does appear a second time on earth Himself.

He will do so by being the greatest subtle brutalizer of the gospel of Jesus Christ to ever come.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.


For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

And so we see, antichrists are false christs, pointing to themselves or others, as Christ come again in the flesh on earth, by preaching their own gospel and cross and faith.

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Christians are not going to attack Jerusalem.
What's wrong with you?Are you so out of touch with reality that you can't comprehend it is the Muslims that want control of Jerusalem?


Commander of Iran's Qods (Quds) Force Esmail Ghaani. August 5, 2022

Commander Says Iran Will Destroy Israel And Attack The US​

Saturday, 08/06/20223 minutes
Author: Iran International Newsroom
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Iran will continue its struggle until the destruction of “enemies”, the United States and Israel, the commander of its extraterritorial Qods Force said Friday.
As a new flare up of violence between Israel and Iran-backed Islamic Jihad began Friday, Esmail Ghaani (Qaani) was speaking at a memorial service for three servicemen killed in the Syrian war.
Ghaani repeated a recent refrain heard from other Iranian officials that Israel is in decline and said that “Hezbollah’s sons are making plans to bring down the last blow against the Zionist regime…and to realize the wish of Imam Khomeini to eradicate Israel from the map and the face of the Earth.”
But he also threatened the United States: “The enemies of [Iran’s] Islamic government, led by America and the Zionist regime should know that we will never stop self-sacrifice and will move forward on the path of resistance."
The Islamic Republic uses the terms “resistance” to refer to its regional foreign and military policy of arming and supporting militant groups, such as the Islamic Jihad, the Lebanese Hezbollah, and the Houthi forces in Yemen primarily for attacking Israel but also threatening Arab states friendly to the West.
“The honorable path of martyrs will be pursued until the complete destruction of the enemies of the Islamic system,” he said, meaning Iran’s Islamic Republic.
Islamic Jihad fires rockets at Israel from Gaza on August 5, 2022

Islamic Jihad fires rockets at Israel from Gaza on August 5, 2022
At the same time on Friday, the official Twitter account of the Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) wrote, “We clearly say that we interfere whenever there is the issue of opposing Israel. After this also, wherever any nation or group fights Israel, we stand behind them and support them.”
While Israel launched a series of air attacks throughout Gaza, killing about 10 members of Iran-backed Islamic Jihad including its military commander Taysir al-Jabari, the leader of the group was visiting Tehran.
During the week, Islamic Jihad’s leader Ziyad al-Nakhalah held meetings with several senior Iranian officials in Tehran including Supreme Leader's adviser Ali Akbar Velayati, Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, and Kamal Kharrazi, the head of Iran's Strategic Council on Foreign Relations, as well as President Ebrahim Raisi.
Ghaani became commander of IRGC’s extra-territorial Qods (Quds) Force in January 2020, when its former notorious commander Qasem Soleimani was killed in a targeted US air strike in Baghdad. The Qods Force manages most of Iran’s military, intelligence and even political affairs in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen.
The Qods commander did not mince words in his speech threatening the US and Israel. “These two traitor and murderous regimes will receive a response in the shortest time for each crime they commit,” and added, “The Islamic Republic makes plans to respond to all crimes that America and the usurper Zionist regime commit and will give its decisive answer at the appropriate time.”
Ghaani pledged to continue support for Hezbollah, saying, “the victors of this battle will undoubtedly be the sons of Islam.”
When Iranian officials use the word Islam, it often means Shiites, as Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is portrayed as the leader of ‘Islam’. For Sunnis, however, who comprise the vast majority of Muslims, Khamenei is mostly seen as the leader of a sect that opposes their beliefs and traditions.
 

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I find these interpretations disturbing. Christians need to realize that when they characterize these beasts as Christian, or Catholicism -
Only if you are one of the false prophets, teachers, apostles, christs, and beasts.

This has nothing to do with any certain denomination or Catholicism. But only them that teach and preach another cursed gospel of Jesus Christ.


they attribute all the evils of the last days to themselves.

All the last days evils are already here, and have been around since the resurrection of Jesus Christ, when antichrists first started coming out to preach their own gospels, that are contrary to the gospel that Paul and the apostles preach.

Since I endeavor never to twist Scripture and teach my own personal gospel, then I am quite confident that does not include me. Nor many other brothers and sisters I know and believe Jesus with.
Why would anybody want to convert to Christianity
Only the outwardly religious convert to religion, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, etc...

There's only on reason to come to Jesus:

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

I don't care what people think about joining a religion, since I don't have a religion for them to join, except of course to live the pure and undefiled religion of saints in Christ Jesus.


when there's a majority in the Church who believe the CHURCH would produce the beast, man of sin, the harlot, the little horn, etc,!?
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

If you've never heard false doctrine, or seen a false teacher, then you've been more blessed than me.

However, saying Peter is in error, in warning against such false Christian teachers, then you are teaching false doctrine yourself.

As well as accusing Peter of being a false accuser of certain Christians.

Paul calls them self-transformed false apostles, which John calls antichrists.

You need to rely more on Scripture to know the truth of things good or evil in the churches of God, and not just your own personal feelings about such things.

The church in the wilderness produced the Jews that had Jesus crucified, and the churches of God have been producing like-minded heretics, that depart from the apostles' doctrine of Christ, to produce their own doctrine and build their own Christian churches.

The last great antichrist one earth will be the greatest at seducing Christians away from the faith of Jesus, to that of his own faith alone, and act as Christ coming in the flesh again on earth.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Warning against such false teachers and christs, is Christian duty for our own sakes and that of the unbelievers, just as much as being witnesses of His majesty.

Jesus did on earth, and so should we.

There was over a decade of time, when I wish someone had been able to sufficiently warn me from such false leaders, when becoming a newborn babe in Christ.

And they weren't OSAS justifiers of adulterers, drunkards, and cursers.

Talk about self-demonization!
False teachers demonize themselves.

Fools fail to know who they are by searching the Scripture for ourselves, to see if what they teach about Christ and Christian living is true or not.

These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

I was once a Christian fool, while seeking to be pure in life with Christ.

Now, I only seek to purify my spirit and flesh, and no more allow myself to be made a foolish follower of false ministers, but rather openly denounce those teaching lying wonders and gospels of their own.
 

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Muslims are taught in the Hadith that they are to attack the Dajjals army after the third year of the great drought and destroy those who have tormented them.
This corresponds to the beast rising up out of the abiss and attacking Jerusalem and destroying those who tormented them for 1260 days in revelation 11.
There is no mistake who attacks Jerusalem .They are not Christian and don't pretend to be.
 

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Christians are not going to attack Jerusalem.
Not Christians in Christ Jesus.

But only those calling themselves Christians in the widespread organization of Christian churches headed by the last great beast and antichrist on earth, of which many Christians will be seduced, as well as Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc...and unbelievers among nations.

Including ten national rulers giving their power to their new spiritual Christian leader and false christ on earth.

As I said, less Kooran garbage, and more Bible truth.

You go ahead and worry about the Muslims, and I'll stay focused on the true doctrine of Christ in Scripture, vs the false doctrine of false christs, that preach their own gospel in the name of Jesus Christ.
 

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Not Christians in Christ Jesus.

But only those calling themselves Christians in the widespread organization of Christian churches headed by the last great beast and antichrist on earth, of which many Christians will be seduced, as well as Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc...and unbelievers among nations.

Including ten national rulers giving their power to their new spiritual Christian leader and false christ on earth.

As I said, less Kooran garbage, and more Bible truth.

You go ahead and worry about the Muslims, and I'll stay focused on the true doctrine of Christ in Scripture, vs the false doctrine of false christs, that preach their own gospel in the name of Jesus Christ.
You don't have any truth in you.You just spout garbage about christians like yourself who have fallen away from the truth.
Fact is,you don't know much of anything .You are so out of touch with reality that you don't know what an antichrist is much less a beast in the Bible.

And by the way.
Its not Kooran.Its Quran
It is the lie they believe before their destruction.Something else you can't seem to comprehend.
 

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wow, just wow... nice drive by smear

Happy Feast of Mary, the Mother of God!

Pax et Bonum
The Catholic Church of today, is not that of the Holy Roman Empire.

Nor was I belittling it, and their accomplishments in coming out of the dark ages.

It's simple history.

Nor do I suggest confessing Christian Catholics are all false, since it is not by word alone we are judged of Christ, but by deed and truth.

Nor do I dishonor any good works Catholics do for others.

However, their Mariology is still false doctrine.

But, if some Christian wants to think they can hug Mommy Mary, and it makes them feel better, when she burps them, then more power to them. :)
 
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You don't have any truth in you.You just spout garbage about christians like yourself who have fallen away from the truth.
Fact is,you don't know much of anything .You are so out of touch with reality that you don't know what an antichrist is much less a beast in the Bible.
All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.

Perhaps you would like to show why antichrists are not false apostles, as John says, and false teachers are not beasts brutalizing Scripture, as Peter and Jude say.

You see, my definition of such things is from Scripture, to show true interrpeation of prphecy of Scripture.

Your's is only from your own mind, in order to teach your own prophecy of things to come: False prophecy of a false prophet, wrested falsely from Scripture.

You see how that works?

Or, you can for once actually address my arguments from quoted Scripture, and show how false prophets and teachers are not antichrists and ministerial beasts


And by the way.
Its not Kooran.Its Quran
It is the lie they believe before their destruction.Something else you can't seem to comprehend.
Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.

Have I dishonored the great false prophet Mahooomed?

You're something else.

The Kooooran is nothing but a bunch of twisted rehashing of the OT, in order to make the promised seed be by Ishmool, rather than Isaac, and that great prophet to be Maoooomed, rather than Jesus Christ.

I have no more respect for that third-rate garbage, than I do with some teaching that does away with Jesus Christ's reign on earth, which will last at least a thousand years.
 

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All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.

Perhaps you would like to show why antichrists are not false apostles, as John says, and false teachers are not beasts brutalizing Scripture, as Peter and Jude say.

You see, my definition of such things is from Scripture, to show true interrpeation of prphecy of Scripture.

Your's is only from your own mind, in order to teach your own prophecy of things to come: False prophecy of a false prophet, wrested falsely from Scripture.

You see how that works?

Or, you can for once actually address my arguments from quoted Scripture, and show how false prophets and teachers are not antichrists and ministerial beasts



Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.

Have I dishonored the great false prophet Mahooomed?

You're something else.

The Kooooran is nothing but a bunch of twisted rehashing of the OT, in order to make the promised seed be by Ishmool, rather than Isaac, and that great prophet to be Maoooomed, rather than Jesus Christ.

I have no more respect for that third-rate garbage, than I do with some teaching that does away with Jesus Christ's reign on earth, which will last at least a thousand years.

I've already proved to you the beast is a kingdom and quoted the verses to prove it.
But you want to believe a beast with seven heads and ten horns is a group of x christians proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Like I said,you are so out of touch with reality that you don't know who is who in scripture.
When the Israeli government starts giving it's citizens aark in their right hands or foreheads in order to buy and sell,you still won't know anything.
You will still be spouting the christians are coming,the christians are coming.

You don't even pay attention to those who openly deny Christ.You don't even notice them that proclaim to the world that Christ has not come or that Christ is not the son of God.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

For some strange reason you believe the people who say Jesus is the Christ are antichrist.In you twisted mind ,you can't even comprehend who it is that says Jesus is not the Christ.You can't comprehend those who teach that Jesus is not the son of God are actually antichrist and not the christians that you accuse.
 

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All my teaching comes with open quotes directly from Scripture. And since you never even bother to show how I teach it incorrectly, then your repetitive teaching of your own things, is useless.

Perhaps you would like to show why antichrists are not false apostles, as John says, and false teachers are not beasts brutalizing Scripture, as Peter and Jude say.

You see, my definition of such things is from Scripture, to show true interrpeation of prphecy of Scripture.

Your's is only from your own mind, in order to teach your own prophecy of things to come: False prophecy of a false prophet, wrested falsely from Scripture.

You see how that works?

Or, you can for once actually address my arguments from quoted Scripture, and show how false prophets and teachers are not antichrists and ministerial beasts



Well, well, I was wondering if I'd get a rise out of your intellectual honor for the Koooran.

Have I dishonored the great false prophet Mahooomed?

You're something else.

The Kooooran is nothing but a bunch of twisted rehashing of the OT, in order to make the promised seed be by Ishmool, rather than Isaac, and that great prophet to be Maoooomed, rather than Jesus Christ.

I have no more respect for that third-rate garbage, than I do with some teaching that does away with Jesus Christ's reign on earth, which will last at least a thousand years.
Exactly how many christians have you heard say that Jesus is not the Christ?

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


Name one.
 

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And now here is another thing that you don't comprehend.Mohammed in the Quran was converting christians to Islam.He was causing them to depart from the faith.I understand this because I read it.Ive read who he was talking to and the lies he was telling those christians.
So while you waiting for someone to come and lead many christians astray,Mohammed already has.
Today 25 percent of the world's population follow Mohammed.
 

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If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?

Or are you saying the king of the north will give his armed forces to himself?



Daniel 8:12
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
The Future Human Man, The Antichrist Seen Below In (Daniel) 11:37 Will Be A Hebrew/Jew In Decent, His Fathers Worshipped The True Hebrew (God Of His Fathers)

(Daniel) 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Examples: God Of His Fathers

(2 Kings) 21:22KJV
22 And he forsook the Lord God of his fathers, and walked not in the way of the Lord.

(2 Chronicles) 21:10KJV
10 So the Edomites revolted from under the hand of Judah unto this day. The same time also did Libnah revolt from under his hand; because he had forsaken the Lord God of his fathers.
 

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They are kings of nations believing the wrong preachers.

Preachers of Christ don't attack any nation, but pray for the rulers over nations.
Wrong preacher.
As I've said ,these are muslim nations attacking Israel as they are told to do by Mohammed.According to Mohamed,the Quran is the correct gospel as delivered by Jesus.He claimed it was given to him by the angel Gabriel because he said the apostles wrote whatever they wanted and the church also misinterpreted their writings.

While you are claiming the kings that attack Jerusalem believe the wrong preachers ,they all believe one preacher.
Mohammed.

They are literally told when to attack in the Hadith and the timing corresponds to revelation perfectly.Its though God sends these Muslim nations a strong delusion so that they trust in a lie.Then they are all destroyed.
 

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If you say the king of the north and the little horn is the same man,then who gives the little horn the armed forces that will abolish the daily sacrifice?

Or are you saying the king of the north will give his armed forces to himself?



Daniel 8:12
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Daniel 11:31
His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
And now here is another thing that you don't comprehend.Mohammed in the Quran was converting christians to Islam.He was causing them to depart from the faith.I understand this because I read it.Ive read who he was talking to and the lies he was telling those christians.
So while you waiting for someone to come and lead many christians astray,Mohammed already has.
Today 25 percent of the world's population follow Mohammed.
The Jews in Israel aren't going to receive a Muslim as their awaited upon Messiah, it's that simple
 

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If you have paid any attention to our conversation,you would know we are talking about those who attack Israel.
I apologize, I fully agree that Muslim forces will attack Jerusalem and fulfill the time of the Gentiles as Jerusalem is trodden under foot for 3.5 years

I believe Israel will make a drastic move on the Muslims dome of the rock, 2nd most holy site of Muslims

I believe Israel will try to take the historical "Temple Mount", and it will be world Muslim war against Israel
 

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I apologize, I fully agree that Muslim forces will attack Jerusalem and fulfill the time of the Gentiles as Jerusalem is trodden under foot for 3.5 years

I believe Israel will make a drastic move on the Muslims dome of the rock, 2nd most holy site of Muslims

I believe Israel will try to take the historical "Temple Mount", and it will be world Muslim war against Israel
It looks like that could very well happen in the near future.
 
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