The Law is good, it brings us to Christ.

[Soyeong]

Interpreted? It's quite clear. Those who choose the Law are under the curse!

Every form of communication requires interpretation, which is why multiple people can have different interpretations of the same verse. You are interpreting Paul as quoting from the OT in order to support a point that is arguing against what he was quoting from, which is not quite clear, but rather your interpretation is quite convoluted.

Are you under the Law or the New Covenant? Can't be both. Doesn't sound like you know which you are under. Better figure it out soon.

Galatians clearly says Christians are not under the Law!

In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts. You can deny this verse all you want, but you will never detract from its truth.

 

[Jack]

Every form of communication requires interpretation, which is why multiple people can have different interpretations of the same verse. You are interpreting Paul as quoting from the OT in order to support a point that is arguing against what he was quoting from, which is not quite clear, but rather your interpretation is quite convoluted.


In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts. You can deny this verse all you want, but you will never detract from its truth.

IOW, you're not under the New Covenant, the ONLY way to Christian Salvation!

 

[Mr E]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

A man was working on his car and it rolled off the jacks and came down on top of him-- pinning and crushing him. His wife heard his cry as it happened and ran to get the neighbors to come and help lift it off him while she called for an ambulance.

The car was good-- because he got out from under it and lived to see another day.

 

[Jack]

The Law can't save anyone! ONLY the New Covenant in the Blood of Jesus!

 

[marks]

so it is only through faith in Christ that Gentiles are able to become joined to Israel and partakers of the New Covenant.

That's just it, gentiles are no longer being joined to Israel. That is what the great commission was about, to prosletyze the Gentiles into Israel to know Christ. But which Israel's rejection of Christ, the Gospel went directly to the Gentiles.

Much love!

 

[Soyeong]

That's just it, gentiles are no longer being joined to Israel. That is what the great commission was about, to prosletyze the Gentiles into Israel to know Christ. But which Israel's rejection of Christ, the Gospel went directly to the Gentiles.

Much love!

The Bible does not say that Gentiles are no longer to being joined the Israel. In Ephesians 2:12-19, Gentiles were are one time separated from Christ, alienated from Israel, strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world, but through faith in Jesus all of those things are no longer true in that Gentiles are no longer strangers of aliens, but are fellow citizens of Israel along with the saints in the household of God.

 

[Soyeong]

A man was working on his car and it rolled off the jacks and came down on top of him-- pinning and crushing him. His wife heard his cry as it happened and ran to get the neighbors to come and help lift it off him while she called for an ambulance.

The car was good-- because he got out from under it and lived to see another day.

Do you think what you described matches the same thing as what is accurately described in these verses?:

Psalms 19:7-11
The law of the Lord is perfect,
reviving the soul;
the testimony of the Lord is sure,
making wise the simple;
8 the precepts of the Lord are right,
rejoicing the heart;
the commandment of the Lord is pure,
enlightening the eyes;
9 the fear of the Lord is clean,
enduring forever;
the rules of the Lord are true,
and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
even much fine gold;
sweeter also than honey
and drippings of the honeycomb.
11 Moreover, by them is your servant warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.

 

[marks]

The Bible does not say that Gentiles are no longer to being joined the Israel. In Ephesians 2:12-19, Gentiles were are one time separated from Christ, alienated from Israel, strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world, but through faith in Jesus all of those things are no longer true in that Gentiles are no longer strangers of aliens, but are fellow citizens of Israel along with the saints in the household of God.

In that passage you will also read, from the two, one new man. Not that these are joined to those, rather, these and those together are something new.

It is also written that in Christ are neither Greek nor Jew, that is, nationalistic divisions are erased in Christ.

Much love!

 

[Soyeong]

In that passage you will also read, from the two, one new man. Not that these are joined to those, rather, these and those together are something new.

It is also written that in Christ are neither Greek nor Jew, that is, nationalistic divisions are erased in Christ.

Much love!

The one new man still involves Gentiles being joined to covenants of promise and to Israel along with the saints in the household of God, built on the apostles and the prophets with Christ being the chief cornerstone. The Bible clearly refers to those who are Greeks, Jews, men, women, slaves, and free, and Paul identified as a Jew in Acts 21:39 and 22:3, so he was not denying the reality of these distinctions, but rather he was denying that they given someone a higher status when it become to being in Christ.

 

[Mr E]

Do you think what you described matches the same thing as what is accurately described in these verses?:

Psalms 19:7-11
The law of the Lord is perfect,
reviving the soul;
the testimony of the Lord is sure,
making wise the simple;
8 the precepts of the Lord are right,
rejoicing the heart;
the commandment of the Lord is pure,
enlightening the eyes;
9 the fear of the Lord is clean,
enduring forever;
the rules of the Lord are true,
and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
even much fine gold;
sweeter also than honey
and drippings of the honeycomb.
11 Moreover, by them is your servant warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.

Don't you?

The car does what it is supposed to do-- when you are in it. When you find yourself under it-- with it pressing upon you, it becomes a burden. It becomes a death-trap. It's meant to get you from point A to point B. It was designed to carry you, not for you to carry it.

 

[Soyeong]

Don't you?

The car does what it is supposed to do-- when you are in it. When you find yourself under it-- with it pressing upon you, it becomes a burden. It becomes a death-trap. It's meant to get you from point A to point B. It was designed to carry you, not for you to carry it.

No, the truth of what Psalms 19:7-11 is describing is incompatible with the what you are describing. The Psalmists repeatedly said that they loved God’s law and delighted in obeying it, so is we consider the Psalms to be Scripture and to therefore express a correct view of God’s law, the we will share it as Paul did (Romans 7:22), while anything less that the view that we ought to delight in obeying it is incompatible with the view that the Psalms are Scripture. For example, in Psalms 1:1-2, blessed are those who delight in the Law of the Lord and who meditate on it day and night, so we can’t believe in the truth of those words as Scripture while not allowing them to shape our view of the Mosaic Law.

In 1 John 5:3, to love God is to obey His commands, which are not burdensome. In Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-20 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that God’s law is not too difficult for us to obey and the obedience to it brings life and a blessing while disobedience brings death and a curse, so choose life! However, that is the word of faith that you deny.

 

[Mr E]

No, the truth of what Psalms 19:7-11 is describing is incompatible with the what you are describing. The Psalmists repeatedly said that they loved God’s law and delighted in obeying it, so is we consider the Psalms to be Scripture and to therefore express a correct view of God’s law, the we will share it as Paul did (Romans 7:22), while anything less that the view that we ought to delight in obeying it is incompatible with the view that the Psalms are Scripture. For example, in Psalms 1:1-2, blessed are those who delight in the Law of the Lord and who meditate on it day and night, so we can’t believe in the truth of those words as Scripture while not allowing them to shape our view of the Mosaic Law.

In 1 John 5:3, to love God is to obey His commands, which are not burdensome. In Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-20 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that God’s law is not too difficult for us to obey and the obedience to it brings life and a blessing while disobedience brings death and a curse, so choose life! However, that is the word of faith that you deny.

You do you.

I love my car and delight in it. I wouldn’t want it crushing me.

 

[Soyeong]

You do you.

I love my car and delight in it. I wouldn’t want it crushing me.

Do you think that God’s goal in giving His law was to teach us how to delight in Him and how avoid being crushed by sin or do you think that His goal was to crush us?

 

[bro.tan]

Paul says in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET.

Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law.

(v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

 

[Soyeong]

Paul says in (Rom. 7:7,12) (v.7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, THOU SHALT NOT COVET.

Paul asked a question, is the law sin? He said God forbid, he said the only way that he knew what sin was, was by the law.

(v.12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Why in the world would a Christian want to do away with something that God said is holy.

Paul says in (Rom. 4:15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. If there is no law there is no sin.

Anyone with access to the Bible can read God’s law, so pretending it isn’t there won’t make it go away. It is one thing for there to be no wrath for when someone sins while being ignorant of God’s law against it and it is another thing for someone to deliberately rebel against God’s law.

 

[BlessedPeace]

There are many who insist God's law no longer applies to Christians.

One realizes after awhile that pointing out the falsehood in that school of thought is a waste of time.
When the New Testament and Jesus doesn't reach that mindset, that says it all .

 

[Gottservant]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. [...] it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

I wholeheartedly approve of this message.

You get to the point; and it expands our spiritual horizon.

Thank you.

 

[BlessedPeace]

A man was working on his car and it rolled off the jacks and came down on top of him-- pinning and crushing him. His wife heard his cry as it happened and ran to get the neighbors to come and help lift it off him while she called for an ambulance.

The car was good-- because he got out from under it and lived to see another day.

While the laws of Physics and Gravity made his negligence a cause for needing salvation from being pinned beneath a fallen car. The laws of Physics and Gravity also saved him from further injury.

 

[MatthewG]

I wholeheartedly approve of this message.

You get to the point; and it expands our spiritual horizon.

Thank you.

Thank you for your kind comment.

 

[bro.tan]

Anyone with access to the Bible can read God’s law, so pretending it isn’t there won’t make it go away. It is one thing for there to be no wrath for when someone sins while being ignorant of God’s law against it and it is another thing for someone to deliberately rebel against God’s law.

I understand what you saying, also we living in the time of Roman Christianity teaching. Paul talk about two different law, the royal (commandments) and the animal sacrificial laws. When the bible speaks of laws we no longer have to keep, it is speaking of the sacrificial laws and Priesthood laws. These laws were a school master pointing us to the fact that Jesus would be sacrificed for our sins. Since Jesus died we are no longer under a school master, (required to offer up bulls and goats for our sins).

Now we must believe (have faith) Jesus died for us (Hebrews 10:4,9-10) 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 9 then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.