The Law is good, it brings us to Christ.

[MatthewG]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 [f]and [g]immoral men [h]and homosexuals [i]and kidnappers [j]and liars [k]and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

 

[Jack]

NOBODY obeys the Law. Especially the Law preachers! UTTER hypocrisy!

 

[marks]

NOBODY obeys the Law. Especially the Law preachers! UTTER hypocrisy!

Without the Levitical priesthood, and without the temple, it has become literally impossible to keep the Law. Those who claim that we are to keep the Law have made up their own version, keeping this, leaving that out, according to what they think. But you can't change God's Law to Israel, and claim it's still His. And in fact the Mosaic Law was given only to Israel, not to anyone else.

Much love!

 

[Bob Estey]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

The law shows us the way.

 

[Jack]

Without the Levitical priesthood, and without the temple, it has become literally impossible to keep the Law. Those who claim that we are to keep the Law have made up their own version, keeping this, leaving that out, according to what they think. But you can't change God's Law to Israel, and claim it's still His. And in fact the Mosaic Law was given only to Israel, not to anyone else.

Much love!

Exactly! Christians have the New Covenant, the Road to Salvation!

 

[Soyeong]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

God's law is good because what it teaches us to do is for our own good (Deuteronomy 6:24, 10:12-13). In Matthew 7:23, Christ said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so God's law leads us to Christ because it was given to teach us how to know him. Our need to obey God's word is the same as our need for God's word made flesh. God's word teaches us how to point to God's word made flesh, so we should live in a way that point to him rather by obeying it rather than a way that points away from him by not obeying it.

Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-16 as the world of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that God's law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing. Likewise, in 1 John 5:3, to love God is to obey His commandments, which are not burdensome.

In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from God's law, but in order to free us from all lawlessness and to purify from himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what he accomplished through the cross while reverting back to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from is the way to reject what he accomplished. In Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and in John 8:31-36, it is sin in transgression of God's law that puts us into bondage while it is the truth that sets us free.

 

[Soyeong]

Without the Levitical priesthood, and without the temple, it has become literally impossible to keep the Law. Those who claim that we are to keep the Law have made up their own version, keeping this, leaving that out, according to what they think. But you can't change God's Law to Israel, and claim it's still His. And in fact the Mosaic Law was given only to Israel, not to anyone else.

Much love!

The Israelites were given a number of laws that had the condition "when you enter the land..." while they were still wandering the wilderness for 40 years, so there is nothing wrong with not following laws that can't currently be followed. When the Israelites were exiled to Babylon the condition for their return to the land was to first return to obedience to God's law, which contains instructions in regard to temple practice that they couldn't follow because the temple had just been destroyed, so God honored their obedience to the laws that they could obey.

The Mosaic Law was given to Israel in order to equip them to be a light and a blessing to the nations by turning the nations from their wickedness and teaching them to obey it in accordance with the promise and with spreading the Gospel of the Kingdom. In Jeremiah 31:31, the New Covenant was only made with the house of Judah and the house of Israel, so it is only through faith in Christ that Gentiles are able to become joined to Israel and partakers of the New Covenant. Moreover, in Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Mosaic Law in our minds and writing it on our hearts, so those who want nothing to do with obeying the Mosaic Law also want nothing to do with being under the New Covenant.

 

[MatthewG]

God's law is good because what it teaches us to do is for our own good (Deuteronomy 6:24, 10:12-13). In Matthew 7:23, Christ said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so God's law leads us to Christ because it was given to teach us how to know him. Our need to obey God's word is the same as our need for God's word made flesh. God's word teaches us how to point to God's word made flesh, so we should live in a way that point to him rather by obeying it rather than a way that points away from him by not obeying it.

Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-16 as the world of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that God's law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing. Likewise, in 1 John 5:3, to love God is to obey His commandments, which are not burdensome.

In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from God's law, but in order to free us from all lawlessness and to purify from himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what he accomplished through the cross while reverting back to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from is the way to reject what he accomplished. In Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and in John 8:31-36, it is sin in transgression of God's law that puts us into bondage while it is the truth that sets us free.

Thank you sir.

 

[Jack]

God's law is good because what it teaches us to do is for our own good (Deuteronomy 6:24, 10:12-13). In Matthew 7:23, Christ said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so God's law leads us to Christ because it was given to teach us how to know him. Our need to obey God's word is the same as our need for God's word made flesh. God's word teaches us how to point to God's word made flesh, so we should live in a way that point to him rather by obeying it rather than a way that points away from him by not obeying it.

Romans 10:5-8, it references Deuteronomy 30:11-16 as the world of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that God's law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing. Likewise, in 1 John 5:3, to love God is to obey His commandments, which are not burdensome.

In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from God's law, but in order to free us from all lawlessness and to purify from himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works, so becoming zealous for doing good works in obedience to God's law is the way to believe in what he accomplished through the cross while reverting back to the lawlessness that he gave himself to redeem us from is the way to reject what he accomplished. In Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, and in John 8:31-36, it is sin in transgression of God's law that puts us into bondage while it is the truth that sets us free.

Stick with the New Covenant if you don't want to burn in Hell forever and ever.

 

[Jack]

Christians are NOT under the Law. Unless you want to be cursed!

 

[Soyeong]

Stick with the New Covenant if you don't want to burn in Hell forever and ever.

Do you think that all of the people who were under the Mosaic Covenant will burn in Hell forever, including those people listed in Hebrews 11? Do you think that God neglected to teach the Jews how to become saved even though Jesus said in John 4:22 that salvation is of the Jews? Our salvation is from sin and it is by the Mosaic Law that we have knowledge of what sin is, so the position that someone doesn’t need to obey the Mosaic Law is the position that they don’t need salvation from sin. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant still involves following the Mosaic Law, so those who refuse to obey it are refusing to come under the New Covenant.

Christians are NOT under the Law. Unless you want to be cursed!

God is sovereign, so we are all under God’s law and are obligated to refrain from doing what it reveals to be sin. Christ spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Mosaic Law by word and by example and the way to be a Christian is not by refusing to follow what he taught. In Romans 10:5-8, it reference’s Deuteronomy 30:11-20 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that the Mosaic Law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing while refusing to follow brings death and a curse, so choose life! Sadly that is the word of faith that you deny.

 

[Jack]

Do you think that all of the people who were under the Mosaic Covenant will burn in Hell forever, including those people listed in Hebrews 11? Do you think that God neglected to teach the Jews how to become saved even though Jesus said in John 4:22 that salvation is of the Jews? Our salvation is from sin and it is by the Mosaic Law that we have knowledge of what sin is, so the position that someone doesn’t need to obey the Mosaic Law is the position that they don’t need salvation from sin. In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant still involves following the Mosaic Law, so those who refuse to obey it are refusing to come under the New Covenant.


God is sovereign, so we are all under God’s law and are obligated to refrain from doing what it reveals to be sin. Christ spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey the Mosaic Law by word and by example and the way to be a Christian is not by refusing to follow what he taught. In Romans 10:5-8, it reference’s Deuteronomy 30:11-20 as the word of faith that we proclaim in regard to saying that the Mosaic Law is not too difficult for us to obey and that obedience to it brings life and a blessing while refusing to follow brings death and a curse, so choose life! Sadly that is the word of faith that you deny.

If you're a Christian you will stick with the NT in the Blood of Jesus. Christians have never been under the Law! Do you sacrifice animals as the Law COMMANDED? Are you under the Law??? If you are you are CURSED! You're fallen from Grace! You are "severed from Christ"! Jesus said so!

 

[Soyeong]

If you're a Christian you will stick with the NT in the Blood of Jesus. Christians have never been under the Law! Do you sacrifice animals as the Law COMMANDED? Are you under the Law??? If you are you are CURSED! You're fallen from Grace! You are "severed from Christ"! Jesus said so!

It is unsurprising that you ignored everything that I said in my post. Why does it make sense to you to think that relying on what God has instructed is the way to be cursed while rebelling against what God has instructed is the way to avoid being cursed? Likewise, why does it make sense to you to think that the way to fall from grace and to be severed from Christ is by relying on what God has instructed? It is contradictory to think that we should rely on God, but not on what He has instructed.

 

[Jack]

It in unsurprising that you ignored everything that I said in my post. Why does it make sense to you to think that relying on what God has instructed is the way to be cursed while rebelling against what God has instructed is the way to avoid being cursed? Likewise, why does it make sense to you to think that the way to fall from grace and to be severed from Christ is by relying on what God has instructed? It is contradictory to think that we should rely on God, but not on what He has instructed.

Have you never read what Paul said in Gal? If you're under the Law you're CURSED! Fallen from Grace! Severed from Christ!

 

[dev553344]

Released From the Law, Bound to Christ - Paul explains while the Law is good - it brings us to Christ​

1 Timothy - Paul writes to Timothy.

There are many things about the Law, that are good, in fact spiritually beneficial, however no man will ever be able to perform them by the acts of their fleshly ways. In fact, the more you read about Paul and how explains you will see that he blames that it is the sin with-in him. There is still sometimes that sin comes up in our flesh because our flesh is inherently by nature - sinful. It comes from the mind, and our thoughts, and when we come to realize the law, and how it is right which was given to the Jewish people, you realize your need for Christ, because you will never be able to subdue your flesh without Christ, and there is no way to the Father except through Christ. As you can see here, the Law points to Christ, he frees those jewish people in that day, who were under law, but even though they were under law you had people who were still doing law but yet believed in Christ, you also had people lying and manipulating that Jesus Christ was not the sacrifice that was needed and to revert back to the law.

Truth to be set free of being bound to bondage is always something to seek for.

Today, there are people that preach Christ out of envy, and strife, and some out of a good heart. There are people that are out there who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but they are part of an organization. If the spirit moves them to leave, they will, however, it's most certainly God who will look at the heart and see if Christ is seen in it.

Yes the heart of a follower helps others and attempts to make others lives better. And that is a heart like what we should have. Obeying the commandments keeps us from hurting others. We are also taught to honor God.

 

[Lambano]

Christians consider "The Law" to be a curse because of curses in Deuteronomy 28-30, but the Jewish people consider Torah to be God's greatest gift. Among other things, it tells us what God considers right and wrong. Think about it.

 

[Jack]

Christians consider "The Law" to be a curse because of curses in Deuteronomy 28-30, but the Jewish people consider Torah to be God's greatest gift. Among other things, it tells us what God considers right and wrong. Think about it.

Christians have the New Covenant. NOBODY obeys the Old, even tho some LOVE to preach it.

 

[Soyeong]

Have you never read what Paul said in Gal? If you're under the Law you're CURSED! Fallen from Grace! Severed from Christ!

Indeed, I have read what Paul said in Galatians, which is why I disagree that it should be interpreted as promoting rebellion against God. Moreover, even if the correct interpretation of Galatians was that Paul was promoting rebellion against God, then we must obey God rather than Paul, so we should still obey what God has commanded regardless of whether or not your interpretation of Galatians is correct. I have never promoted the position that we are justified as the result of obeying works of the law, so you are blatantly misapplying Galatians 5:4, and it is absurd to think that the way to be severed from Christ is by following the example that he set for us to follow, but you don’t seem to care whether your position makes sense.

 

[Soyeong]

Christians consider "The Law" to be a curse because of curses in Deuteronomy 28-30, but the Jewish people consider Torah to be God's greatest gift. Among other things, it tells us what God considers right and wrong. Think about it.

The Psalmists expressed an extremely positive view of obeying the Torah, such as with repeatedly saying that they loved it, they delighted in obey, and that they wanted God to be gracious then by teaching them to obey, so the view that it is God’s greatest gift is in accordance with the view that the Psalms are Scripture while anything less than the view that we ought to delight in obeying it is incompatible with the view that the Psalms are Scripture. For example, in Psalms 1:1-2, blessed are those who delight in the Torah of the Lord and who meditate on it day and night, so we can’t believe in the truth of these words as Scripture while not allowing them to shape our view of obeying the Torah. Moreover, the NT authors considered the Psalms to be Scripture, so they should be interpreted as though they were in complete agreement with the extremely positive view of obeying the Torah that is expressed in the Psalms.

 

[Jack]

Indeed, I have read what Paul said in Galatians, which is why I disagree that it should be interpreted as promoting rebellion against God.

Interpreted? It's quite clear. Those who choose the Law are under the curse!

Moreover, even if the correct interpretation of Galatians was that Paul was promoting rebellion against God, then we must obey God rather than Paul, so we should still obey what God has commanded regardless of whether or not your interpretation of Galatians is correct. I have never promoted the position that we are justified as the result of obeying works of the law, so you are blatantly misapplying Galatians 5:4, and it is absurd to think that the way to be severed from Christ is by following the example that he set for us to follow, but you don’t seem to care whether your position makes sense.

Are you under the Law or the New Covenant? Can't be both. Doesn't sound like you know which you are under. Better figure it out soon.

Galatians clearly says Christians are not under the Law!