The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

[Truth7t7]

THINK THINK THINK and DO NOT change Holy Scripture.

You look into a mirror of your very own admonition

Dave you falsely believe and teach "The Last Day" isn't the end, but that a mortal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth takes place "After" this

Dave Jesus Christ below clearly teaches "The Last Day" is the time of final judgment (The End) why do you continue to teach contrary to the words of Jesus Christ below "Why"?

The Last Day Is The Time Of Final Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[Timtofly]

Resurrection day is the last day. It is the final day of history.

Scripture is correct. This private interpretation of yours is not correct. The Cross was the last day resurrection Martha and Jesus was talking about.

No verse declares the last day of history is the first resurrection to ever happen. Your "Resurrection day" is your first, last, and only general resurrection. That is not Scripture. That is your imagined opinion of Scripture.

In fact Jesus resurrected Lazarus then and there and declared the last day a reality. You deny that Jesus gave Lazarus the last day resurrection both He and Martha were in agreement on. Now you call that my imagined opinion. But you cannot deny that Lazarus was resurrected any more than Jesus who performed the act, or Martha who was a witness to the act can deny it happened.

 

[ewq1938]

You look into a mirror of your very own admonition

Dave you falsely believe and teach "The Last Day" isn't the end, but that a mortal 1,000 year kingdom on this earth takes place "After" this

Scripture teaches that though. You Amill's have no answer for Rev 19 saying the rule over the nations is future tense past the second coming.

 

[WPM]

Scripture teaches that though. You Amill's have no answer for Rev 19 saying the rule over the nations is future tense past the second coming.

Yeah right! Yes we do. The word is shepherd not rule. Read the original and you will learn.

You are missing the crucial point. The word poimaino shows us that Christ is going to divide at the end between the sheep and the goats like a shepherd. You avoid the key destructive detail contained in the Greek and Hebrew words that show the destruction of the nations. For example: The original Greek in Revelation 19:15 states “he should (patasso ho ethnos kai autous poimaino autous) smite the nations, and shepherd them with a rod of iron.”

You need to see what the word poimaino means and how similar kindred words are interpreted elsewhere in Scripture. The word poimaino in this reading which is rendered “rule” in the AV, carries the consistent meaning of shepherd and shepherding in Scripture.

The picture here is of a Shepherd with a rod. However, this is NO ordinary Shepherd with no ordinary rod. The Shepherd here is Christ, and He is coming in His wrath at the end of this age to deal with the wicked thus the significance of the rod of iron. He is a jealous Shepherd who is finally coming to destroy those that have rejected Him. The shepherding is clearly associated with the FINAL separation.

There is no sense or mention of, or allowance for, survivors, as you imagine. All the wicked are destroyed. There is no one left to inherit this supposed future millennium full of sin and sinners, dying and crying, decay and disease.

 

[Truth7t7]

Scripture teaches that though. You Amill's have no answer for Rev 19 saying the rule over the nations is future tense past the second coming.

You have been shown several times, Jesus returns in wrath and destruction in Revelation Chapter 19, he rules with a rod of iron in "Destruction" of the wicked, just as a Potter destroys his vessels with a rod of iron

 

[ewq1938]

You have been shown several times, Jesus returns in wrath and destruction in Revelation Chapter 19, he rules with a rod of iron in "Destruction" of the wicked, just as a Potter destroys his vessels with rod of iron

You Amill's have no answer for Rev 19 saying the rule over the nations is future tense past the second coming. You all avoid it.

 

[Truth7t7]

You Amill's have no answer for Rev 19 saying the rule over the nations is future tense past the second coming. You all avoid it.

Jesus rules with a rod of iron at "The Second Coming" in destruction of the wicked, your claim of "Past" the second coming is "False", as you're now trolling in defiance of my clear explanation given

 

[ewq1938]

Jesus rules with a rod of iron at "The Second Coming" in destruction of the wicked, your claim of "Past" the second coming is "False", as you're now trolling in defiance of my clear explanation given

You are still avoiding the future tense verb for rule. You all avoid it like the plague.

 

[Truth7t7]

You are still avoiding the future tense verb for rule. You all avoid it like the plague.

Yes you avoid the fact that the event of Jesus ruling with a rod of iron is "Future" and it takes place at the Lord's "Future" second coming, will you continue to troll in disregard of my clear explanation

Rule with a rod of iron, "Future" second coming, read it again and again

 

[ewq1938]

Yes you avoid the fact that the event of Jesus ruling with a rod of iron is "Future" and it takes place at the Lord's "Future" second coming, will you continue to troll in disregard of my clear explanation

Rule with a rod of iron, "Future" second coming, read it again and again

You clearly don't understand Greek grammar or what a future tense verb even means. John described events of Armageddon. Two were present tense which were smiting and treading but RULE was future tense meaning it happened AFTER Armageddon.

Saying everything has to be future tense is just plain ignorance of Greek grammar.

 

[Truth7t7]

You clearly don't understand Greek grammar or what a future tense verb even means. John described events of Armageddon. Two were present tense which were smiting and treading but RULE was future tense meaning it happened AFTER Armageddon.

Saying everything has to be future tense is just plain ignorance of Greek grammar.

Your still on the troll, Jesus returns to end Armageddon, "Future"

Rule With A Rod Of Iron is "Destruction" of the wicked at the second coming, just as a Potter destroys his vessels with a rod of iron

You think you have some magical verb tense that puts Jesus in your fairy tale millennial kingdom, sitting on a throne with a iron scepter ruling, "Laughable"!

 

[ewq1938]

Your still on the troll, Jesus returns to end Armageddon, "Future"

That has nothing to do with the word RULE being in the future tense at the timeframe of Armageddon. It proves Amill to be false and no Amill can change the verb tense in the manuscripts. All you can do is avoid and misdirect.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth (PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

[Truth7t7]

That has nothing to do with the word RULE being in the future tense at the timeframe of Armageddon. It proves Amill to be false and no Amill can change the verb tense in the manuscripts. All you can do is avoid and misdirect.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth (PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Not one word presents Jesus in a millennial kingdom on this earth, sitting on a throne "Ruling" with a rod of iron scepter "A Fairy Tale"

Scripture teaches the rod of Iron is a tool of "Destruction"

You can spout your claims all you want, Rod Of Iron = "A Tool Of Destruction" not a Kings Scepter as you falsely believe and teach

Jesus Is The Lord

Jesus will "Destroy" with a rod of iron, not sit on a throne and rule with it

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

 

[Timtofly]

This totally negates a future millennium of more time and days after the second coming.

Technically that would mean the Cross and the interpretation that it was the end of the 70th week, would mean that time was up, even before the church was opened to the Gentiles.

Amil are living in denial of the last 1993 years. Because they happened after time was declared over, according to those who claim the 70th week was over in 30AD.

 

[Timtofly]

The Old Testament saints were "Raised From The Dead" just as Lazarus and Tabitha were

Jesus clearly taught "The Resurrection" takes place at his coming, then cometh the end, 1 Corinthians 15:23-24

1 Corinthians 15:23-24KJV
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

If you refuse to see the order, and claim one singular resurrection, you may as well join the Amil in their error.

The order is this:

The Cross: All the OT left Abraham's bosom as souls given permanent incorruptible physical bodies, and all are currently enjoying Paradise with all the rest who leave and join them.

The Second Coming: those physically alive on earth.

The end of the Millennium: when Jesus returns all of creation restored and subdued.

The end is not a resurrection, nor is the Second Coming. Nothing about a physical resurrection. It is called being made alive.

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."


It does not say:

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be given a physical resurrection."

 

[Timtofly]

THINK THINK THINK and DO NOT change Holy Scripture.

The 5th Seal is the LORD show-n-tell to us that His Bride will only be complete(ALL who will be Part of HER) AFTER the set number die.

The white robes are not allegorical but literal and they are NOT the NEW Transformed Bodies.

The NEW Transformed Bodies ONLY takes place at the Second Coming of Christ = 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 1 Cor ch15 , Rev ch19 & ch20

LITERAL WHITE ROBES = Acts ch1

After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. 10They were looking intently into the sky as He was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”

Never mentioned any new Transformed Bodies.

Only those on earth get "Transformed Bodies". I agree that the glorified church has to wait in Paradise until the thousand years are finished.

The 6th Seal is the Olivet Discourse's Second Coming. There is only one Second Coming.

 

[Timtofly]

You have been shown several times, Jesus returns in wrath and destruction in Revelation Chapter 19, he rules with a rod of iron in "Destruction" of the wicked, just as a Potter destroys his vessels with a rod of iron

Who are the sheep, if Jesus just killed every last human on earth?

 

[ewq1938]

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite (Aorist tense verb with PRESENT tense meaning) the nations: and he shall rule (FUTURE tense verb) them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth (PRESENT tense verb) the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

One of many ways to prove Amill to be false. The rule over the nations is not now, and not happening at Armageddon but is a future event just as Premill teaches. I wonder why early Amill did not want Revelation canonized? No big mystery there.

Not one word presents Jesus in a millennial kingdom on this earth, sitting on a throne "Ruling" with a rod of iron scepter "A Fairy Tale"

Scripture teaches the rod of Iron is a tool of "Destruction"

You can spout your claims all you want, Rod Of Iron = "A Tool Of Destruction" not a Kings Scepter as you falsely believe and teach

Jesus Is The Lord

Jesus will "Destroy" with a rod of iron, not sit on a throne and rule with it

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

 

[robert derrick]

There is only one Scripture necessary to believe millennialism:

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

The only answer to this, is believe or not believe He will will rule them with a rod of iron.

All else is doting about words and their meaning:

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Some people think there is proof in numbers, so that if they can gain others to their false teachings, they somehow prove to themselves that it's true. It can be seen in their vehemence of condemning anyone not agreeing with them, because they desperately need to be personally agreed with. The truth of Scripture is has no place with them anymore.

 

[robert derrick]

Proofs that this earth is His Millennium, not the new earth.
1. No sea on the new earth for the river of waters to cleanse.
2. He builds His house and temple Himself for His rule, and is the temple Himself in New Jerusalem.
3. His saints reign with Him on earth during His Millennium, and there is no such rule on the new earth, but only God and the Lamb dwelling with man in New Jerusalem.
4. There is no feast of tabernacles on the new earth, nor withholding rain from nations that don't come.
5. This earth dissolves and passes away from sight of God. The new heaven and earth is created, nor renewed from the old.