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Featured The Mystery of the Triune God

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by *Light*, Aug 16, 2019.

  1. justbyfaith

    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    The Father is the Father from everlasting to everlasting...and the Son is the Son from everlasting to everlasting...

    However the Son was begotten in the incarnation...and ascended to inhabit eternity once again.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    Rather, it is two divine person ins ONE God. That, plus the Holy Spirit, is most people's belief in the Trinity or Godhead.

    To believe that the Father and the Son are the same person is to believe in modalism.
     
  3. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Not if you understand your Bible.
     
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  4. justbyfaith

    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    Not always.
     
  5. justbyfaith

    justbyfaith Well-Known Member

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    You understand the Trinity...please explain it to us.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    Actually always. This is literally a matter of definition. The Trinity directly states that the Father and Son are two different persons. Modalism believes that they are one person in two different modes.
     
  7. Enoch111

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    God the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit
    God the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit
    God the Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son
    Three distinct divine persons, but ONE GOD within the Godhead.
     
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    Who are you responding to, and why are you referring to modalism? The OP isn't about just modalism, and my replies have nothing to do with modalism either.
     
  9. justbyfaith

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    God the Father is not the Son...but the Son is the Father (Isaiah 9:6).

    I have explained the reason why I believe this to be the case in certain places on these boards.
     
  10. justbyfaith

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    No, that is the Mormon Trinity...the preaching of three Gods.

    You know that you are guilty of being a Mormon; don't deny it.
     
  11. Jane_Doe22

    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    I was responding to @justbyfaith who was advocating for modalism (that the Father and Son are the same person).
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    Dude: I'm talking about the Creedal Trinity-- that which was codified by the Athanasian Creed. The Father and Son aren't the same person in that belief system (or mine). Modalism is the name given to the belief system wherein the Father and Son are the same person, and is traditionally considered a heresy by Trinitarian theologians.
     
  13. shnarkle

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    Oh, I see. Without any context, it looks like you're responding to imaginary posters. I must have whoever you're responding to on "ignore" because their posts aren't showing up anywhere. Am I correct in assuming that when you respond to their post, you are intentionally deleting the content of their post from your response? Why would you do this?
     
  14. Jane_Doe22

    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not deleting anything- the post I responded to is directly included in my response post.
    My guess is that forum software is hiding it from your view because you have a poster on ignore. If for some reason you wanted to test that, on the bottom right corner of the thread's an option to "show ignored content" or something like that, which temporarily shows that ignored content.
     
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    I'm not sure that's necessarily the case. When we read "one in being with the father" we see one being, but Christianity explicitly points out that it is the person of Christ who is presented to the world as the mediator between God and the world. Christ is the face of God, but God is not his face. The word is God, but God is not his word.
     
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    Strange. I've viewed other people's posts with content from people I'm ignoring so they must be doing something to make it appear in their posts. Thanks for the heads up though. I'll just assume that when someone posts something with no context, it isn't worth looking at because I only ignore people who have nothing worth looking at to begin with. I've seen the "ignored content" button. I ignore that as well, but it might be interesting to see if their ignored content then appears in your post. I might try it out, but then I'm still not sure it's really worth it either.
     
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    No; for I have declared that the Father is not the Son (although the Son is the Father).
     
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    Modalism is the concept that God wears a lot of different hats, isn't it? And while I believe that the Son is the Father, I don't think that my belief system fits into the category of what might be called "modalism".

    But you would have to study what I believe, through posts that I have made, to find out the truth of the matter.
     
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    It isn't that my posts aren't worth looking at; but that you have hardened your heart to what I am saying and therefore have turned away from me as a teacher; and as a result will heap up for yourself teachers that will tell you what your itching ears want to hear. I say this to you on the off-chance that you will look at this post.

    To @shnarkle.
     
  20. Jane_Doe22

    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    I have read many of your long posts and threads. And suffered very heavy-handed harassment and proselytization from you. It is a major turn off.
     
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