The New Covenant Is The same as the Old Covenant but Internalized in our hearts

[PS95]

I gave scripture as proof ! they are not accusations but the truth! Yes paul was teaching something else" HIS OWN GOSPEL "

if you see no difference you do not Follow Jesus, you would have seen the difference in the gospels but you are BLIND!

He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.” – John 12:40

I produced the verses ,the scriptural proof of the difference the gospel of Paul was teaching, It falls short , Short of the Gospel of Christ that you have forgotten! you prefer the easy way that leads to perdition so be it!
you provided nothing to prove me wrong because you cannot and you are mad of having been fooled. Get over it and Follow Christ like you are supposed to.

Repent the Kingdom of Heaven id at Hand!

LOL- well, there it is folks. Paul's 12 epistles were his own different gospel. Let him be accursed as Paul himself would say!..
I'm sorry that you can not see that all of the apostles including, Paul had ONE FAITH and one gospel.
You disagree with Paul, therefore you have to trash him and slander him. How sad.
Perhaps it's you, and not Paul whom Jesus sent-- with the confusion.
Yes, Sabbath is every day when we rest in Christ. Hebrews 4- It seems that you don't want to enter into God's rest and prefer to attain your own righteousness.

"For I say unto you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees you will not enter the kingdom of heaven" Love, Yeshua.
--Matt 5:20

 

[LoveYeshua]

LOL- well, there it is folks. Paul's 12 epistles were his own different gospel. Let him be accursed as Paul himself would say!..
I'm sorry that you can not see that all of the apostles including, Paul had ONE FAITH and one gospel.
You disagree with Paul, therefore you have to trash him and slander him. How sad.
Perhaps it's you, and not Paul whom Jesus sent-- with the confusion.
Yes, Sabbath is every day when we rest in Christ. Hebrews 4- It seems that you don't want to enter into God's rest and prefer to attain your own righteousness.

"For I say unto you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees you will not enter the kingdom of heaven" Love, Yeshua.
--Matt 5:20

Far from me to trash anyone. just want you to be careful and follow Jesus words truly as he said. Do not let anyone who say or seem to say different, Paul is very hard to understand (2 peter 3:16) that you must be careful, he was a servant of Christ and yes Paul preached his own gospel, he said so himself, it was different from the Gospel of Jesus who preached repentance from sin, the coming Kingdom of heaven and to obey the ten commandments to have eternal life.

 

[LoveYeshua]

LOL- well, there it is folks. Paul's 12 epistles were his own different gospel. Let him be accursed as Paul himself would say!..
I'm sorry that you can not see that all of the apostles including, Paul had ONE FAITH and one gospel.
You disagree with Paul, therefore you have to trash him and slander him. How sad.
Perhaps it's you, and not Paul whom Jesus sent-- with the confusion.
Yes, Sabbath is every day when we rest in Christ. Hebrews 4- It seems that you don't want to enter into God's rest and prefer to attain your own righteousness.

"For I say unto you that unless your righteousness far surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees you will not enter the kingdom of heaven" Love, Yeshua.
--Matt 5:20

Paul has his own gospel, he refers to it as 'MY gospel!'

Rom 2:16 on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.

Rom 16:25 Now to Him who is able to strengthen you by my gospel and by the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery concealed for ages past.

2Ti 2:8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David, as proclaimed by my gospel.

the new Jerusalem will have 12 gates, who's name will be on the gates and who's names will be on the foundation's wall? The answer in the book of revelations.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Far from me to trash anyone just want you to be careful and follow Jesus words truly as he said, do not let anyone who say or seem to day different, Paul is very hard to understand (2 peter 3:16) that you must be careful, he was a servant of Christ and yes Paul preached his own gospel, he said so himself, it was different from the Gospel pf Jesus who preached repentance from sin, the coming Kingdom of heaven and to obey the ten commandments to have eternal life.

I have posted the true Gospel as Jesus explained it to us, his true message in a condensed form with supporting scripture, follow the link.

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God, the Father in heaven, sent His Son Jesus to the world to fulfill His plan of salvation. Long before Jesus came, the prophets spoke of Him. Isaiah said that a virgin would give birth to a Son, and He would be called Immanuel, which means "God with us" (Isaiah 7:14). Micah said the Messiah...

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[Dash RipRock]

I didn't forget to put it in.

The point of loving others is the a point made, while loving the Lord being our first priority is missing.

This leaves the impression that loving others is the primary focus and priority.

It has nothing to do with relaxing and taking it easy.

Seeing you are obviously not at peace, you should really consider relaxing and taking it easy

It's unhealthy for you spiritually to not care if you are misrepresenting someone's beliefs or not.

It's unhealthy for someone to talk about loving others as being the only thing Christians should be doing, failing to mention loving the Lord is our top priority and we are to love the Lord first and love people second as to not be men pleasers.

If you think it's acceptable to misrepresent what others believe

I'm simply saying when mentioning we should love others, it's very important to along with that mention that loving the Lord comes before loving people.

You forgot to mention that and now you're all upset because someone made this point that you know should have been made.

It's OK man, relax. Learn to cast your cares upon the Lord and let the anxiety and solicitude go

 

[Dash RipRock]

What the Lord of God actually is? I'm not sure of your question.

I wasn't asking a question, I was making a statement where I was repeating what the Lord said in His Word:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

I never said anything about "What the Lord of God actually is" since there is nobody that is Lord over God.

1 John 5:3- "The love of God is that we keep His commands". Yep. What are His commands?
Love God with all heart, soul.. & love neighbor as yourself.

Matthew 10:37 - He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Jesus is telling us here that loving other before loving Him is a problem.

It's weird and odd that some folks seem to either not know this or keep forgetting to put this in to their discourse.

Love fulfills the LAW That is what the scriptures say repeatedly and I agree. I think I have explained it best I can. Does that help answer your Q?

I don't have a question. I have a statement in telling other what Jesus said in Matthew 10:37

Of course the Lord wants us to love others, but that's second place to loving Him.

A big problem was have among those that say they are Christians is they actually love men more than they love the Lord in that they accept the doctrines of men (wisdom of man) before loving the Lord and what He says (wisdom of God)

Matthew 22:37-39 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Notice how Jesus puts loving God first? That's the point, let's pay attention to what Jesus is saying here

Ok, so I see you give more importance to what Paul, a mere servant, teached than the clear words of Christ, the son of God, one with God?

Jesus is speaking thru the Apostle Paul.

Jesus, thru the Holy Spirit, is the One telling Paul what to write so there is no contradiction between Jesus and Paul contrary to popular believe due to rumors being spread about by the devil that Paul is teaching a different gospel than Jesus

Paul has his own gospel, he refers to it as 'MY gospel!'

Here's what the Lord said thru Paul about those claiming they should follow Paul's teachings and ignore the Words of Jesus:

1 Timothy 6:3-5 - If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Read it and weep!

No, like Jesus the Apostle Paul taught the Gospel of the Kingdom of God that is available by grace THRU ling by faith

What many do not understand is that Jesus continued His teaching ministry thru ALL of the New Testament writers and after people became born again and filled with the Holy Spirit the Lord was able to expound in more with more detailed insight than He could during His earthly ministry when nobody was yet born again or filled with the Holy Spirit.

 

[LoveYeshua]

I wasn't asking a question, I was making a statement where I was repeating what the Lord said in His Word:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

I never said anything about "What the Lord of God actually is" since there is nobody that is Lord over God.



Matthew 10:37 - He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Jesus is telling us here that loving other before loving Him is a problem.

It's weird and odd that some folks seem to either not know this or keep forgetting to put this in to their discourse.



I don't have a question. I have a statement in telling other what Jesus said in Matthew 10:37

Of course the Lord wants us to love others, but that's second place to loving Him.

A big problem was have among those that say they are Christians is they actually love men more than they love the Lord in that they accept the doctrines of men (wisdom of man) before loving the Lord and what He says (wisdom of God)

Matthew 22:37-39 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Notice how Jesus puts loving God first? That's the point, let's pay attention to what Jesus is saying here



Jesus is speaking thru the Apostle Paul.

Jesus, thru the Holy Spirit, is the One telling Paul what to write so there is no contradiction between Jesus and Paul contrary to popular believe due to rumors being spread about by the devil that Paul is teaching a different gospel than Jesus



Here's what the Lord said thru Paul about those claiming they should follow Paul's teachings and ignore the Words of Jesus:

1 Timothy 6:3-5 - If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Read it and weep!

No, like Jesus the Apostle Paul taught the Gospel of the Kingdom of God that is available by grace THRU ling by faith

What many do not understand is that Jesus continued His teaching ministry thru ALL of the New Testament writers and after people became born again and filled with the Holy Spirit the Lord was able to expound in more with more detailed insight than He could during His earthly ministry when nobody was yet born again or filled with the Holy Spirit.

God Does Not change, Jesus being one with GOD does not change, What he said before Paul did not change( see James, revalations John 1, 2, ...) as confirmation they repeat his words and encourage us to follow Christ in all things.

What about the words of Jesus our Lord and God, that were clear and simple, do they not count? Do we need Paul to explain or interpret? Absolutely not!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The point of loving others is the a point made, while loving the Lord being our first priority is missing.

This leaves the impression that loving others is the primary focus and priority.



Seeing you are obviously not at peace, you should really consider relaxing and taking it easy



It's unhealthy for someone to talk about loving others as being the only thing Christians should be doing, failing to mention loving the Lord is our top priority and we are to love the Lord first and love people second as to not be men pleasers.



I'm simply saying when mentioning we should love others, it's very important to along with that mention that loving the Lord comes before loving people.

You forgot to mention that and now you're all upset because someone made this point that you know should have been made.

It's OK man, relax. Learn to cast your cares upon the Lord and let the anxiety and solicitude go

I am completely relaxed. You don't know me at all. You decided to be a jerk and misrepresent what I was saying and you won't admit it. I clarified what I believe which is that loving God does come first and you can't accept that. You have to harp on what you falsely perceived me to be saying in my other post. If you ever grow up, let me know, and then we can talk again.

 

[PS95]

I wasn't asking a question, I was making a statement where I was repeating what the Lord said in His Word:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

I never said anything about "What the Lord of God actually is" since there is nobody that is Lord over God.

You obviously overlooked your typo then. Your post said "Lord of God." Whatever- No big deal.

Matthew 10:37 - He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Jesus is telling us here that loving other before loving Him is a problem.
It's weird and odd that some folks seem to either not know this or keep forgetting to put this in to their discourse.
I don't have a question. I have a statement in telling other what Jesus said in Matthew 10:37
Of course the Lord wants us to love others, but that's second place to loving Him.
A big problem was have among those that say they are Christians is they actually love men more than they love the Lord in that they accept the doctrines of men (wisdom of man) before loving the Lord and what He says (wisdom of God)
Matthew 22:37-39 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Notice how Jesus puts loving God first? That's the point, let's pay attention to what Jesus is saying here

I appreciate the teaching about something I am painfully aware of. Let me ask you- would it have helped LoveYeshua to understand that the OT is obsolete and Paul is not Balaam etc-- if I had told her that I have been shunned many many years by my large JW family because I took a stand for Jesus?
No- this person is like a Jw in a different costume with an agenda to deny most of the NT because she thinks she is doing God a sacred service by hating Paul.


It seems to me that you expect us to type out the entire bible when replying to someone. Love fulfills the law. I DID put that the commands are LOVE GOD & NEIGHBOR.

I don't know why you criticize people every time you post. You might want to look into that. Take care.

 

[PS95]

I am completely relaxed. You don't know me at all. You decided to be a jerk and misrepresent what I was saying and you won't admit it. I clarified what I believe which is that loving God does come first and you can't accept that. You have to harp on what you falsely perceived me to be saying in my other post. If you ever grow up, let me know, and then we can talk again.

I have yet to see a post by him that is even the slightest bit kind to anyone....... and so it goes...( love?)

 

[Dash RipRock]

What about the words of Jesus our Lord and God, that were clear and simple, do they not count? Do we need Paul to explain or interpret?

Apparently the Lord was speaking thru Paul, so you're welcome to argue with the Lord as to why He continued His teaching ministry thru Paul and the other New Testament writers.

In the end the red letters are just as true as what Jesus said thru Paul and the other New Testament writers

You decided to be a jerk and misrepresent what I was saying

Fake news, get a grip buddy! Nobody misrepresented anything

You failed to mention that loving the Lord is our first priority and now you are upset that someone dared to point that out. It was only after the fact that you agreed that we are to love the Lord first

Maybe take you a nap, eat some ice cream, pet some puppies - whatever you need to do to calm down and relax.

I don't know why you criticize people every time you post.

On a discussion forum people exchange thoughts and ideas, so when someone has an additional thought or idea to add to what someone has said does not automatically mean they are being critical.

The bigger problem is that so many have a problem with others adding to what they said as though what they said was the end all and no other thoughts or idea could possibly be added to enhance what is being said.

People add to what I say all the time and I take it in to consideration and ask the Lord to let me know if there's something they are saying that I need to pay attention to and sometimes there is.

On the other hand, there's some very serious false doctrine being espoused on discussion forms like this and of course people get mad if someone calls them out for it. We need to remember that the Lord told us in His Word that deception would be rampant in the last days and we are seeing that going on right now.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Fake news, get a grip buddy!

Haha. Who is the one who needs to relax? It's not me.

Nobody misrepresented anything

You did...buddy.

You failed to mention that loving the Lord is our first priority and now you are upset that someone dared to point that out. It was only after the fact that you agreed that we are to love the Lord first

I didn't say that it isn't our first priority, so YOU get a grip. You read something into my post that I was NOT saying at all. Get off your high horse.

Maybe take you a nap, eat some ice cream, pet some puppies - whatever you need to do to calm down and relax.

I am 100% relaxed while telling you that you are a completely immature little child who doesn't know how to have adult discussions. It's an observation that I'm making while sitting comfortably in my comfortable chair while being completely relaxed. Okay, buddy?

On a discussion forum people exchange thoughts and ideas, so when someone has an additional thought or idea to add to what someone has said does not automatically mean they are being critical.

You were acting as if I didn't think that loving God was the first priority even though I did not say anything to indicate I believed that. So, you came on here being judgmental towards me for no reason. I'm not going to accept that. You understand me, buddy?

The bigger problem is that so many have a problem with others adding to what they said as though what they said was the end all and no other thoughts or idea could possibly be added to enhance what is being said.

You weren't trying to enhance what I said, you were accusing me of not believing that loving God is a priority over loving others despite the fact that I said no such thing.

People add to what I say all the time and I take it in to consideration and ask the Lord to let me know if there's something they are saying that I need to pay attention to and sometimes there is.

It's fine to add to what someone is saying. You don't need to accuse them of being wrong for not being specific about a certain detail as if that means they don't believe a certain thing just because they didn't explicitly spell it out.

On the other hand, there's some very serious false doctrine being espoused on discussion forms like this and of course people get mad if someone calls them out for it.

That's what I'm doing. I'm refuting the same false doctrine you are, but instead of just working with me as a team you have to foolishly act like I was saying that loving God isn't the priority.

We need to remember that the Lord told us in His Word that deception would be rampant in the last days and we are seeing that going on right now.

No kidding. I refute falsehood on here frequently, so I don't need you to tell me about that.

 

[Dash RipRock]

I didn't say that it isn't our first priority

Yeah you just didn't mention it at all.

I am 100% relaxed

Yes yes of course, we can tell.

You were acting as if I didn't think that loving God was the first priority even though I did not say anything to indicate I believed that.

Well, let this be a lesson to you young man - always eat your vegetables and remember to mention loving the Lord comes first!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yeah you just didn't mention it at all.



Yes yes of course, we can tell.



Well, let this be a lesson to you young man - always eat your vegetables and remember to mention loving the Lord comes first!

I have one lesson for you, young'un. Stop judging people and making assumptions.