"The only fate is what we make for ourselves." True?

[WaterSong]

Lol, so you're believing what Google tells you?

The Google links are scripture link sources. Which you don't know because you saw Google and presumed you know what it means.
That's like a parable in itself. Good job God.

Um yeah, God's character is unchanging. That does not mean he cannot change his mind. And obviously Jesus did change physically. If humans had no affect on God why would God humble himself and become one?

God in his act of grace decided to offer a new covenant of salvation to humankind. That's why it is said it is not works salvation. Because, as the Bible tells us, we did nothing to deserve it. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

 

[WaterSong]

First, all things are not predestined, so...you misunderstood what is predestined.

No, I read the Bible. You disagree with what the Bible says and refuse to accept when it tells you all things are predestined by God.

Everything else is just your effort to disavow the words of God and interpolate what you prefer to believe, which is not only blasphemy, but is humanist in the effort you're undertaking and that is, to humanize God.
Don't start a thread when you're not mature enough to keep to the scriptures that sustain the subject matter you're not able to accept in God's own words.
We're done here. To continue would be an insult to holy writ.

 

[WaterSong]

It's not a created thing imo. It's the natural result of God wanting a relationship with his creation.

When you stop humanizing God you may understand what Christianity is.

 

[Renniks]

How did Job's actions affect the spiritual realm?
How did Job change history with his integrity?

Are these serious questions? The whole book is about a spiritual war that Job ultimately won. And we still have his story today. He literally made The book of history. His story has probably effected millions.

 

[Renniks]

No, I read the Bible. You disagree with what the Bible says and refuse to accept when it tells you all things are predestined by God.

Everything else is just your effort to disavow the words of God and interpolate what you prefer to believe, which is not only blasphemy, but is humanist in the effort you're undertaking and that is, to humanize God.
Don't start a thread when you're not mature enough to keep to the scriptures that sustain the subject matter you're not able to accept in God's own words.
We're done here. To continue would be an insult to holy writ.

So, you're losing, so you insult and run? Kinda disappointing... Again it doesn't say all things are predestined if you understand the context.

I humanize God? Sir, God humanized himself, you know. I had nothing to do with that.

 

[Enoch111]

This is a quote from the terminator movies. Tell me if it's true or false (preferably by using the Bible) and why you believe as you do.

That statement is false. There are many other factors which enter into the lives and destinies of people.

 

[Renniks]

The Google links are scripture link sources. Which you don't know because you saw Google and presumed you know what it means.
That's like a parable in itself. Good job God.


God in his act of grace decided to offer a new covenant of salvation to humankind. That's why it is said it is not works salvation. Because, as the Bible tells us, we did nothing to deserve it. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

Of course we don't deserve it. Of course, it's by grace. Where did I say otherwise?

 

[DuckieLady]

God plans are what will ultimately happen and he decides on our future, but Proverbs is written like a guide on how to live your life according to God's will in order to live a better life. We wouldn't need that direction if some things weren't up to us.

I feel like the show Hoarders is a good example of why we have to do things.