First. I never took the jab. In fact on many threads in this forum I spoke out against it from the beginning.
When you have to resort to fearmongering and bribery to get people to do your will, it makes me stop and consider the motives.
Not too many christians running the governments of the world. I can attest to that.
The Christian doctrine already affects the lives of many people that don't believe. It results in laws being changed.
I would hope for the better, but it doesn't seem like the world wants to abide by God's laws.
God says don't steal. But they stole our trust, our dignity, our loved ones, our money.. and so much more.
God says don't lie. But they did lie every time they promised it was for our own good and for our neighbors.
God says don't worship other gods. But they made themselves gods by trying to make us bow down and worship their rules and mandates.
God say don't bear false witness, but they lied about the safety and efficacy of an experimental drug.
I could go on and on...
This campaign of theirs was anything but christian.
Note that for the 2nd time you've ignored the point I put to you:
"How could you ever be happy in heaven if say your best friend here went to hell? How could you tolerate that? Think it through."
"Would you be happy being in hell knowing your friend was suffering eternal torment? Is that the kind of world you want? That's some kind of warped mindset."
I guess that's a tough one to address right? It kind of exposes the utter nonsense of the doctrine peddled by the church.
There's no real love if there exists such a hell.
I didn't ignore you, you just didn't like my answer.
My answer was and is, it depends on what your interpretation of heaven and hell is.
Everyone has their own interpretation.
And I gave an example of a woman who experiences joy (heaven) at the same time another suffers loss (hell)
And the true christian way would be for the one who suffers to also share in the joy of their friend,
And the one who is joyful to share in the grief of the suffering of their friend.
Consoling one another and upholding one another.
Some believe that heaven and hell are seperate from the existence we live in. I'm not one of them.
I believe we experience heaven and hell during our lifetime here and now.
Of course what happens to the spirit after it leaves this mortal body is a mystery. I haven't died yet so I can't confirm one way or another.
But I can experience both while I am here now.
Trials, tribulations, temptations, all these are hell to the one experiencing them.
Sometimes they lead people to heaven, that is hope, humility, repenting of doing bad things by going through hell.
And it is never a pleasant thing watching another suffer. But the hope and love and compassion we have in our hearts is there for the purpose of comforting the one suffering.
If you are depressed and I am depressed, how can I hope to pull you out of your depression, while I myself am depressed?
One of us has to have hope to give to the other. One of us has to have joy to lift the other up.
One has to be in heaven in order to pull the other out of hell.
And this is done only by God's will working in us and through us.
If not for God, then we would be pushing jabs on people for the sake of profits and power.
And it is your choice to believe or not to believe. No one is forcing you to experience your "here" in whatever fashion you choose.
Just remember, their are alternatives.
And if your content, stay where you are.
And if not, try something new.
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