Grailhunter
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Hey I did not ask you! lol Looks like honest answers...thanks
The rabbit hole called Christian nationalism.....
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Hey I did not ask you! lol Looks like honest answers...thanks
Grailhunter
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BarneyFife
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So the inclination of so many to be so outspoken about all of these things disqualifies those who choose not to from being considered free of corruption? Freedom of speech is everything for anyone who can't control their verbal behavior but the freedom to remain silent is a thing to be feared, hated, and attacked. Yes, attacked.
Grailhunter
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BarneyFife
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...Unless you believe in religious liberty and the separation of church and state.
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. (Romans 12:21)
Grailhunter
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The leftist media and talk shows are funny...They cannot talk about what they believe in because it is so god awful.
They cannot have cheerleaders dancing for murdering over 600,000 babies a year.
RA! RA! Maybe we will murder a million next hear! RA! RA!
RA! RA! we made drugs legal and opened pots stores RA! RA!
RA! RA! Down with Christians, they are a bunch of ignorant, backward bigots! RA! RA!
RA! RA! We are going to teach their children atheism, homosexuality, and communism! RA! RA!
RA! RA! We will make sure that there will be plenty of drugs for kids! RA! RA!
If they told the truth, they would be working against themselves.
They cannot have cheerleaders dancing for murdering over 600,000 babies a year.
RA! RA! Maybe we will murder a million next hear! RA! RA!
RA! RA! we made drugs legal and opened pots stores RA! RA!
RA! RA! Down with Christians, they are a bunch of ignorant, backward bigots! RA! RA!
RA! RA! We are going to teach their children atheism, homosexuality, and communism! RA! RA!
RA! RA! We will make sure that there will be plenty of drugs for kids! RA! RA!
If they told the truth, they would be working against themselves.
Behold
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Really?
Actually if, the world was in "God's Hand" it would not be spiraling, it would be rejoicing.
So, you have substituted what the devil has caused this world to become and will continue to cause.. =all the chaos, all the confusion......with God's "hand".
It never a good idea to give God credit for the deeds of the Devil, especially in public.
You shouldn't do that.
BarneyFife
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BarneyFife
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Against it with few exceptions, those being when the life of the mother is somehow in jeopardy. Those to be handled on a case by case basis.
Against the practice of it.
In favor of drugs prescribed by physicians based on a proper diagnosis. Against recreational usage.
In favor, but not unlimited.
I am against what has been practiced in Red China or the USSR or North Korea or North Viet Nam.
In favor but your question is too general. No simple answer here.
In favor. I support the police to serve and protect everyone, but I would be against them if and when they take advantage of their position to break the law themselves.
I am against rioting in any city where they are damaging property needlessly or physically injuring anyone. I am in favor of organized protests so long as they only protest.
I am against shutting down churches no matter who runs the state.
When my children were in school my wife and I taught them at home, because it was already getting bad against our own beliefs regarding God. I expect it is worse, so as it is, I would advise any parent asking sincerely to not send them to public schools. When my children were in school I asked for some of our school tax money back, but of course that never happened. What do you suppose I taught my children?
I don't need them for myself, but if Catholic and others want them, it's OK by me so long as they are decent. I won't try to define decency here, but my ideas would correspond to what I understand from my own beliefs with regard to what would please God.
I am against some of the removals I have heard about lately including state monuments in the South commemorating things, or events or people as a part of history or the heritage of families... even if perhaps offensive to some. Some of those people depicted by statues or such may have been in error or sinful people, but who has not been in erro or sinful at times...? We cannot change history by censoring all of the history books or destroying statues and other monuments. It is history and even the bad parts should be remembered.
I am against having any illegal aliens. If some persons not born with U.S. citizenship desire to be here, then they should enter as allowed by law. If the laws are not fair, then they should be changed legally. Aliens actually within our borders illegally should be deported with few exceptions and provided only with such basic essentials prior to actual deportation in accord with human decency. Of course someone has to define human decency.
BarneyFife
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Grailhunter
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BarneyFife
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Wow, you did this just as I was about to cave and do it. You always beat me to the cool stuff. lol
Grailhunter
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Well the law and order thing is not that difficult...law and order vs anarchy.
But you know the logical question is, if your answers are honest, why do you align yourself with the left?
Behold
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Silence is consent?
Is Blind Tolerance what Christians are supposed to do?
Just sit and watch and pray, and take no stand, offer no backbone, .. just lay down and take it?
Well, there are those who believe that to be a doormat, is to be a Good Christian.
However, God does not agree with that type of weak religious nonsense.
"Love thy neighbor" does not include Tolerate their harmful dirty rotten sinning, etc.
Christ won't be coming back here as a Lamb.
Christians are supposed to be in a fight, and that fight is against the darkness that tries to rule everything, and run everything, according to what insults righteousness and morality.
Its difficult for 75 million Americans, who voted against turning America into Mexico City, who voted against Federally funded abortion, who voted against allowing Iran to build Nukes and bomb Israel........Its difficult for them to sit on their hands and not be allowed to speak on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, ..... while they watch Biden write every possible executive order that his handlers are having him sign, that offends everything that Christianity forbids, or can not tolerate.
For them to just sit there and take it, and be silent, would be Like Jesus Going into the temple and seeing the corruption, and saying...."ok then, carry on......have a nice day".
So, some who are foolish, think of righteous indignation as scary nationalism, but it really isn't.
The American Declaration of Independence, states that when Americans realize that their Government is gone away from righteousness, away from morality, away from common sense, and away from the Liberty that created their country, they are to rise up... and that means what it means....
.......Thats what it says.... and those who made sure that was in there, understood exactly what can happen to the citizens when Good is being strangled and evil is being worshiped, regarding who is controlling the LAWS and the RIGHTS....
So...Its actually being "fed up" with the wrong, and being beyond tired of the Media driven conspiracy of lies connected to the socialist agenda that may not have put Biden into the big chair legally.., that is driving the resistance.
No one actually knows............for sure........except God Almighty, and he's isn't fooled.
Believe it.
I feel sorry for the Americans who want to keep their borders closed, and allow the actual citizenship process, the LEGAL ONE, to be enforced.
I feel sorry for Americans who dont want Homosexual Teachers teaching their 6-9 yr olds that "homosexuality is a choice they might consider".
I deeply pity the American Churches that will be forced to allow gay marriage in their church and Transgender bathrooms in their Church.
Biden will increase this type of demonic craziness, upon them... and Kamala will double it, and triple it.
Born again Americans, are now forced to sit and watch a White House puppet.... who is handled by his "we hate America" controllers, turn their country into Argentina.....while this puppet's handlers can't wait for him to die so that their real choice for President <Kamala> can take the reins and lead America right over the final edge and into the doom.
So, Till that day...when God steps in to cleanse the situation.... American Christians are forced to sit there and watch the "Biden Agenda" = play "gotcha" games using anything that's "alt sexuality" or "morally perverse", or "abortion rights activist", or "100% Pro-Palestinian"... or similar to do it.
Well, God is going to resolve all this wrong, and the hourglass is running down on that one.
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Then you could never have supported either Obama or Biden, who wish to FLOOD the country with illegal aliens, and then grant them citizenship just like that! Biden's agenda is simply Obama's agenda on steroids, since all checks and balances have been destroyed since November 3, 2020.
To add insult to injury, Biden wants to purge the term "alien" from the laws of the land. This crooked politician (who should have been behind bars) is going to extremes because no one can stop him now.
I hope that you are as honest as you put yourself forth to be. In the scripture in the OT it is written that every man is a liar. In the NT the same words are cited. I do believe each one of us, including you and including me, is a liar... if he ever speaks openly what he believes but it turns out, according to God, to be wrong. The measure of this is by God Himself, not by you, nor by me, nor by the majority of labeled Christians, nor by the majority of members on this forum, nor by a majority of the forum moderators.
You stand then on your integrity as Job said that he did. Job did not see himself as clearly as he needed to...
I won't stand on my own integrity which you certainly have questioned, but rather on what I believe which I believe is from God. I likely miss the mark of the high calling at times, but I ask God each day to help me humble myself and to be led toward the Light which He is. Are these only empty words to you from someone you have at least inferred or implied was dishonest and not striving to walk as Jesus walked?
Do you use then the same kind of evidence against me that you accuse the Democrats of using against Trump? Good for the goose, but not for the gander?
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Do we not understand that anyone not a saved child of God is a Godless evildoer, whether they be Republicans or Democrats? Our sole purpose, our high calling, is to get so full of Jesus, abiding in Him, that we ourselves walk without yielding to the temptations that satan throws at us. Only then can we hear clearly what Gods would have us do, and believe that He can and will cause us to obey Him.
We are called to present our bodies as living sacrifices, holy, acceptable unto God, and we are told this is not something for ministers alone, or religious fanatics, but for each of us. And God sees this as our reasonable service. Do we?
No, he truth is that from our pulpits, we never hear such things. Truth be told, to most, obedience is seen as a goal, and an unreachable one at that, and that is we have grace. For new Christians, I agree.
But that is not how it is looked at by the vast majority of the church, and even willful disobedience has been seen as ok, thanks to grace. . Unbelief has clouded our vision, and as sin has continued in our lives, our hearts have become harder and harder. The result? Since we think it impossible to ever be holy, we descend to the next level, carnal effort, and think we can please God by fighting evil through self effort and political efforts.
Thus, we end up fighting on satan's turf, trying to fight evil with carnal weapons, not realizing we ourselves first need deliverance from our own sins that keep us earthbound.
In the coming days, as the pressures from the shakings increase, one of two things are going to happen in our lives.
1) We will fall on Jesus, broken and contrite, and cry out like Paul did in Romans 7, hating our fleshly nature, seeking to be delivered from our fleshly nature. We will admit and confess with tears our shallow religious hypocrisy and our "I have need of nothing" attitude. We will see our need for grace to not just forgive us, but to transform us so that we can walk in the Free Indeed He promised us, and shine forth as lights to lead others caught in the darkness.
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2) We will find ourselves so hardened to the Spirit that has been given to us, sent to correct and chasten us, that we will be swallowed up and overtaken by the hate that we see even now rising up on the earth.
We will care more about obeying us than obeying God, and think that God is pleased with us for our religiously motivated activities, whatever they may be.
And ultimately, lest we are delivered from the snare of the enemy, we will be found among those who are shocked on the day of judgment, saying "Lord, Lord, have we not......?" only to hear God answer "Depart from me, all ye that work iniquity."
Our focus must not be on fixing the world, or legislating morality, but on saving it. But first, we must get the world out of us. And that will only happen when we finally admit to God we need such a miracle.
blessings,
Gids
Do you not realize God will put hooks into the jaws of Russia and cause them to attack Israel? These things MUST come to pass, and God could stop the spiral in a nano-second. But the die has been cast, and it will play out just as God foretold. We cannot prevent it, nor it it our calling. Our calling is to walk as children of light, but first we must believe that we ARE light and have actually been delivered from the power of darkness. Unbelief will... WILL... be cast out of His church, the only question is whether we will be a part of it.
Did God not use satan to fulfill His plan to have Christ put to death? All the while, satan must have been cackling at his brilliance in thwarting God's plan. He killed the lion of the Tribe of Judah, God's deliverer! He did not understand.... that is.... until He returned to hell, that Jesus had come as the sacrificial lamb. And satan had done exactly as God would have him to do.
blessings to you, dear brother
Gideon
My answers lines up with the way that God is directing me. As it is written, Jesus said, "salvation is of the Jews", but no place in the scripture is it written that 'salvation is of the Americans and their way'.
Why would you insist that I do things in the ways that you have chosen to do them? You are not the Head of the Body of Christ nor are you my head.
You may be a spokesman for some here and in other places, but not for me and not for everyone here. Do not presume that those not traveling your route must necessarily be with those you perceive to be your worst enemy.
"And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
For he that is not against us is on our part." Mark 9:38-40
"For the body is not one member, but many.
If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
And if they were all one member, where were the body?
But now are they many members, yet but one body.
And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you." I Cor. 12:14-21
Again... America is not equal to the Body of Christ and you are not the Head of the Body of Christ. Go your way as you believe that you must, but do not condemn others who choose Jesus before America without your trimmings!
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