The Sixth Seal: The next Prophesied event

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Mayflower

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The problem is most do not see God and Jesus appearing to all mankind as the Heaven view of Paul's rapture. The 5th seal are the dead in Christ who rise first, because their souls are under the alter. The living church will meet them in the air in the sight of God on the throne, Jesus as the Lamb, and all those athiest and skeptics denying the soon return. This is not even the Second Coming. Revelation indicates that with each judgment those on earth will have no excuse in knowing who God is and the Atonement of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God.

Do you believe in a Rapture? If so, when do you believe it will happen?
 

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Bible prophecy is a very controversial subject and not easy to understand.
1 Corinthians 14:22b says that prophecy is intended to inform Christian believers.

But the many and varied discussions, theories and doctrines point up the disturbing fact of how we Christians often have opposing views of what God has planned for our future.
There is only one sequence, one Plan that will actually unfold and that could be quite soon. So one view is right and all the rest are wrong.
Basically; we can say that the right way, is the one that conforms to scripture. But as Isaiah 28:13 says about prophecy: Here a little, there a little..... making it difficult to work out a correct sequence.

Revelation does give us that in the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls, then the glorious Return of Jesus and after He has reigned for a 1000 years comes the final Judgement, then Eternity.
Revelation also is the only Book that warns us to not mess around with it. Revelation 22:18-19

What is described in the 7 Seals, 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, are things that can and will be literally fulfilled. [Allowing for the few allegorical descriptions; like locusts in Rev 9:7]
So; with the Seals, we are told that when Jesus ascended to heaven, He was found worthy to open the Seals and He commenced to do so. Revelation 6:1
It should be clear to all that the first five Seals are open. We HAVE had wars, famines, plagues and economic disasters aplenty and the proof is the Fifth Seal, where the souls of all the Christian martyrs since Stephen are kept under the heavenly Altar. Revelation 6:9-10

Therefore, the next prophesied event must be the Sixth Seal. Revelation 6:12-17

We have been given plenty of warning and details about this sudden and shocking Day that the Lord will instigate. It will change the world and interestingly, Isaiah 29:23-24 says; Then the Lord's children, the work of His hands, [who are born again Christians] will praise Him for their protection and only then, will we all fully understand His plans and purposes.
 
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It is not clear at all that seals 3 and 4 have happened because just saying wars and famines, has not defined seal 1 and 2. The seals cannot be opened, until the time appointed. It is not a long drawn out event.

When you can define an event that gets the attention of the whole world, then you may be able to define a moment that seal 1 let's the whole world know that God is in control. Not just individual governments calling the shots, and declaring the end of the world.

It is God doing the judgments and getting everyone's attention.
 
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It is not clear at all that seals 3 and 4 have happened because just saying wars and famines, has not defined seal 1 and 2. The seals cannot be opened, until the time appointed. It is not a long drawn out event.

When you can define an event that gets the attention of the whole world, then you may be able to define a moment that seal 1 let's the whole world know that God is in control. Not just individual governments calling the shots, and declaring the end of the world.

It is God doing the judgments and getting everyone's attention.
Look at the Fifth Seal; obviously that is open, as all the martyrs since Stephen show.
The other 4 were opened by Jesus, when He took the Scroll from God. Revelation 5:7 We have experience all the effects of terrible wars, horrible famines, shocking plagues and disastrous economic failures. Any worse and humankind would never have survived.

I reiterate: the Sixth Seal IS the next prophesied event, the world changer that will commence all the end time events. Be ready for it!
 

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Look at the Fifth Seal; obviously that is open, as all the martyrs since Stephen show.
The other 4 were opened by Jesus, when He took the Scroll from God. Revelation 5:7 We have experience all the effects of terrible wars, horrible famines, shocking plagues and disastrous economic failures. Any worse and humankind would never have survived.

I reiterate: the Sixth Seal IS the next prophesied event, the world changer that will commence all the end time events. Be ready for it!
Seal 5 and 6 go hand and hand. It is Paul's rapture. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18

15 When we say this, we base it on the Lord’s own word: we who remain alive when the Lord comes will certainly not take precedence over those who have died.
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a rousing cry, with a call from one of the ruling angels, and with God’s shofar; those who died united with the Messiah will be the first to rise;
17 then we who are left still alive will be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord.
18 So encourage each other with these words.

Those under the alter are all those dead in Christ. Paul said the dead in Christ get their robes first, and immediately those alive on earth get theirs in the air.

The Seals, trumpets, and thunderings only cover a 3.5 year period. Then Satan gets 3.5 years. That is all of the tribulation. It only happens at the end of the church age. Not an evolutionary process of thousands of years. Besides the fact that the last 2000 years, day after day, has always been the end. Satan's delusion was so great, humanity could never understand God’s plan.

Now it is the end, and humans argue themselves out of this reality. It cannot be just the martyrs. Now that was the majority of dead at that time. It was only the first or second generation. No one knew then there would be generations and generations for thousands of years, except John. If God would have had John give the exact time, how could the church be patient enough to wait? Even what 666 was, was left a mystery to be solved.