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GeneZ

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Okay, I see that your pastor’s “Angelic Conflict” framework led you to the conclusion.

But what exactly was the conclusion you reached about why God commanded Abraham to offer Isaac?

And did you ever take that conclusion back to your pastor and discuss it with him?

If you did, had he ever considered that same conclusion before, or was it actually something new to him?

What is this cross-examination for?
He never taught it.

I presented it publicly before pastors and the student body at a rap session at my former Bible college.
 

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What is this cross-examination for?
He never taught it.

I presented it publicly before pastors and the student body at a rap session at my former Bible college.
I'm simply trying to understand the example you offered of discovering something your pastor had never taught.

I understand that you presented your conclusion publicly at Bible college.

But you still haven't said what that conclusion actually was.

What specifically did you conclude was God's reason for commanding Abraham to offer Isaac?
 

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I'm simply trying to understand the example you offered of discovering something your pastor had never taught.

I understand that you presented your conclusion publicly at Bible college.

But you still haven't said what that conclusion actually was.

What specifically did you conclude was God's reason for commanding Abraham to offer Isaac?
As we see the intro of Job to the Angels, the Lord boasted about the virtue Job manifested.

Job 2:3

Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him. ​
He is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, ​
though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”​

I believe the Lord made a similar boast about Abraham to the angels, and Satan made a challenge like he did with Job.

Concerning Job, Satan said...

“Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. ​
But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”​

The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.” Job 2:4-6​
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The incident as to why Abraham was told to offer Isaac was the result of a negative claim made by Satan concerning Abraham's love for God....
 

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As we see the intro of Job to the Angels, the Lord boasted about the virtue Job manifested.

Job 2:3

Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him. ​
He is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, ​
though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”​

I believe the Lord made a similar boast about Abraham to the angels, and Satan made a challenge like he did with Job.

Concerning Job, Satan said...

“Skin for skin!” Satan replied. “A man will give all he has for his own life. ​
But now stretch out your hand and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you to your face.”​

The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his life.” Job 2:4-6​
​
The incident as to why Abraham was told to offer Isaac was the result of a negative claim made by Satan concerning Abraham's love for God....
+++I believe the Lord made a similar boast about Abraham to the angels, and Satan made a challenge like he did with Job.
Please support that with verses :)
 
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+++I believe the Lord made a similar boast about Abraham to the angels, and Satan made a challenge like he did with Job.
Please support that with verses :)

Not verses. But working with facts, we can know about everyday realities at that time in history.

So...

The Lord boasted that Abraham was the father of the faith that all men should live by.
That Abraham loved God with a love unequalled among men.
A love so great that he would do all God would ask of him..

Then it happened.

Satan challenged the Lord...

Oh really?
Abraham loves you more than any man loves God?

Well, my people? Those who worship me?
Love me so much more than Abraham loves you!

So much that they are willing to sacrifice their children to me!

And.... The rest was history.
 

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Not verses. But working with facts, we can know about everyday realities at that time in history.

So...

The Lord boasted that Abraham was the father of the faith that all men should live by.
That Abraham loved God with a love unequalled among men.
A love so great that he would do all God would ask of him..

Then it happened.

Satan challenged the Lord...

Oh really?
Abraham loves you more than any man loves God?

Well, my people? Those who worship me?
Love me so much more than Abraham loves you!

So much that they are willing to sacrifice their children to me!

And.... The rest was history.
++++Not verses. But working with facts,
No verses just facts based on your opinion, understood :)
 

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Not verses. But working with facts, we can know about everyday realities at that time in history.

So...

The Lord boasted that Abraham was the father of the faith that all men should live by.
That Abraham loved God with a love unequalled among men.
A love so great that he would do all God would ask of him..

Then it happened.

Satan challenged the Lord...

Oh really?
Abraham loves you more than any man loves God?

Well, my people? Those who worship me?
Love me so much more than Abraham loves you!

So much that they are willing to sacrifice their children to me!

And.... The rest was history.
Thinking soundly for yourself is not the same as inventing disturbing scenarios about child sacrifice and presenting them as explanations of God's actions.

You have provided no biblical or historical evidence that Satan ever made such an accusation concerning Abraham.

Where did you get this supposed conversation between God and Satan?

And why did you introduce child sacrifice as the reason God commanded Abraham to offer Isaac when Scripture gives no such explanation?
 
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Trump is causing a disaster for the United States.
You will see it soon.

The disaster for the United States will be the response of the people living in the Uniter States to what is actually happening in the United States.

From scripture we read that if my people who are called by my name humble themselves and repent of their sins, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land.

Sadly, people, in their own strength, are trying to heal the land and making the mess, bigger.
 

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Sadly, people, in their own strength, are trying to heal the land and making the mess, bigger.
Similar like the church in Rev.3:14-22....... "We are rich, wealthy, powerful and need nothing" but they are "wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked" and they thin "they know it all".
On top of that a leadership full of fornicators, rapists, pornographers, liars, greedy people, war - mongers and more.
That sums it up. And it is supported by the wealthy preachers and mega churches.
"End times" in the making.

Be prepared.
 
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What is said here and what is implied.
There are a lot of people that do not go to church and or do not believe in going to church or supporting the church.
So they criticize the churches or they criticize the teachers.
What scripture supports that attitude or that behavior.

For the first three centuries Christians risked their lives to gather in house churches, catacombs, out in the wilderness to praise and worship the Lord. Now a days you would have to use a cattle prod to get them to go to church.
Non-participant Christians, giving lip service to the Lord.
How will an armchair preacher fair on Judgment Day?
yeah and rest assured they didnt gather under false teachers and institutions .
but you are correct about the fact that true sheep risked their lives to gather and worship .
Only it darn sure was not under the RCC , or a mormon , or a jw , or a ..................
I dont sit under and idont heed the false prophets of an ecumenical harlot . i expose that ho
and her anti christ intefaith plan for peace . And if i die for this , then so be it .
I had rather have lived in service to Christ and died in service to HIM
than to ever once sit under anyth ing ecumeincal .
 

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Similar like the church in Rev.3:14-22....... "We are rich, wealthy, powerful and need nothing" but they are "wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked" and they thin "they know it all".
On top of that a leadership full of fornicators, rapists, pornographers, liars, greedy people, war - mongers and more.
That sums it up. And it is supported by the wealthy preachers and mega churches.
"End times" in the making.

Be prepared.
and now lets also expose the other side who often will speak against the false propserity preachers
and put on a show of being humble and even cry feed the poor
YET THEY ALL seated under the same ecumeincal harlot .
YOU are right my friend , we had better darn sure be prepared .
And sitting under false teachers aint preparing oneself , lest it be FOR DELUSION and DECEPTOIN .
 

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Similar like the church in Rev.3:14-22....... "We are rich, wealthy, powerful and need nothing" but they are "wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked" and they thin "they know it all".
On top of that a leadership full of fornicators, rapists, pornographers, liars, greedy people, war - mongers and more.
That sums it up. And it is supported by the wealthy preachers and mega churches.
"End times" in the making.

Be prepared.
What would you do and what would you say or think
IF I TOLD you that anything now connected to any kind of hope for world peace
IS BEING TOTALLY decieved and that the truth is
THE SAME AGENDA is all over both sides and all realms now .
Satan has always come claoked as though what he says and does is for the good of humanity
SO marvel not that he can use world peace , but as a means to become as one under the beast .
The BEAST . that was and is NOT and yet IS .
The beast that has been of the seven .
The beast that we were warned would have an image
and that he had power to GIVE LIFE UNTO the image so that the image COULD SPEAK
HELLO AI , and cause that as many as would not worship the beast , HELLO AI can route any conversation to a data
base and we can be rounded up and detained , would be killed .
OH ITS HERE . THE LAW of the all inclusive god who was always satan
WILL SOON BE ENFORCED . Let no man bend the knee to a harlot or wail they will ON JESUS Day .
 

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Similar like the church in Rev.3:14-22....... "We are rich, wealthy, powerful and need nothing" but they are "wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked" and they thin "they know it all".
On top of that a leadership full of fornicators, rapists, pornographers, liars, greedy people, war - mongers and more.
That sums it up. And it is supported by the wealthy preachers and mega churches.
"End times" in the making.

Be prepared.
With whom the kings of the EARTH had committed fornication
and sold her cup to the nations my friend .
THINK . ALL INCLUSIVE . THINK ecumeincal . THINK , for it is here and it does grow .
Taken into the web of her confusion by means of a sensual judge not god is love method .
That led this people farther and farther from the ONE TRUE GOD and HIS CHRIST
and into only deeper rebellion against HIM , HIS WORDS , THINK BIBLE , And his saints that still bring the scriptures
for to correct sins and errors .
Lil oh harlot has sat on her tuffet and convinced a spider to spin a very broad and diverse web of many s trings
to which SHE and her father satan and that which is of anti christ IS RIGHT at the CENTER of that web .
THE web by which all diverse strings sprang from and now leads them all as one right too .
 

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Similar like the church in Rev.3:14-22....... "We are rich, wealthy, powerful and need nothing" but they are "wretched, miserable, poor, blind and naked" and they thin "they know it all".
On top of that a leadership full of fornicators, rapists, pornographers, liars, greedy people, war - mongers and more.
That sums it up. And it is supported by the wealthy preachers and mega churches.
"End times" in the making.

Be prepared.
Who will GO and decieve the muslims , hindus , and all false religoins and christendom
And a lying spirit said I Will convince them .
HOW SO .
I will be a mouth in all their prophets who shall prophesy to them all
of a great diverse love by which to merge them all and to convince them all
that this will lead to their peace n safety .
YE SHALL CERTAINLY decieve them .
And now a w ord .
What the heck do we think has occured .
A LYING SPIRIT has been sent to UNFIY them all
and to make them believe this is the plan and the peace of GOD
that will lead them to the day of peace n safety in the world ,
BUT LEADS ONLY to their own sudden destruction ON JESUS DAY .
OH WE DO have us a delusion all right .
OH WE DO . And for this c ause came it unto them all .
FOR WHEN HE CALLED and sent his own to preach JESUS to the false religoins
THEY DENIED
and WHEN HE called HIS own to go into churches to correct their sins and errors
THEY REJECTED and cast them out as haters .
A DELUSION has come and it will take ALL who rejected the TRUE JESUS , THINK BIBLICAL ONE and HIS GOSPEL
THINK BIBLICAL ONE , to the day of their damnation and perditoin . And all the while
the so decieved will believe its for to attain their peace n safety .
OH WE DO have us a lying spririt at work . WE better bible up and be not like KING ahab who heeded the false
and cast micah who warned him into prison .
 

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Can you please just answer my question? = If you disagree, please list your perfectly moral president!
I already answered this question. If you've given your vote of approval to ANY president or politician, you've supported the Babylonian antichrist beast system. Scripture warns God's people to COME OUT and BE SEPARATE ... and only then will He receive us.
 
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I already answered this question. If you've given your vote of approval to ANY president or politician, you've supported the Babylonian antichrist beast system. Scripture warns God's people to COME OUT and BE SEPARATE ... and only then will He receive us.
whether left or right or trump ............
whether catholic or protestant
And the false religoins
ITS ALL Now coming of the same agenda . These elites have infiltrated all realms
in order to bring them to the table of peace and unity .
AND all of it is of the devil , his harlot , a lying spirit .
I got only two words for us all .
BIBLE TIME .