For the world to celebrate over the deaths of the two witnesses, their deaths will have to be shown across the internet, radio, and TV. So the two witnesses are end times.
The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago
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How can that be possible that the Holy Spirit and the Church would be slain and lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem? The Holy Spirit is not something that mankind can dispose of - even for 3-1/2 days. And Christ told us that even the gates of Hell could not withstand the advance of the church in this world.
The specific language you brought up describing the Two Witnesses tells us who they were: namely, "the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth". This is language that Scripture has used in relation to the role of the HIGH PRIESTS of Israel. As in Zechariah 4:2 & 14. Zechariah asked who the two olive trees were, and the angel answered, "These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth." High priests were anointed to that role of near association with God in the temple.
Ezekiel also describes the high priests in this same fashion in Ezekiel 44:15-16, when the high priesthood in the post-exilic return was being limited to only the family of Zadok. "But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord God: They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge."
So, the Two Witnesses were going to be TWO HIGH PRIESTS who would be slain and lie unburied in the streets of Jerusalem, with the people rejoicing to see them dead. This already happened during the Jewish / Roman war period, when two former high priests (Ananus ben Annas and Joshua ben Gamaliel) were murdered during the Idumean invasion of Jerusalem. Their Zealot rivals who had arranged that Idumean attack rejoiced to see those two dead high priests lying naked and unburied in the streets of Jerusalem.
Rockerduck
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Revelation 1:20 -The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches.
Revelation 11:3-4 -
And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4 These(two witnesses) are the two olive trees(Holy Spirit) and the two lampstands(Church) standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
Where does the fire come from? Preaching the word of God
Jeremiah 5:14 - “Because you speak this word, Behold, I will make My words in your mouth fire,
And this people wood, and it shall devour them.
ScottA
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No, that is not all inclusive (too small) as the world is all inclusive.
The only way that the witness is to all the world, is if it occurs throughout all of the history of the world..."since the beginning."
Meaning, Israel and the Church...making "one new man."
the two witness represents a large group of people that were made to shut up and shutdown the work they were given to do . the world did not like what they were doing as they would not support the war effort on either side of the conflict .
Scott, the two witnesses' bodies will lay day in the street of Jerusalem 3 1/2 days. It is not speaking about the history of the world, but 3 1/2 days.
had it been mentioned in any other book maybe so . how ever, its from the book Revelation. a book composed of things signified . you dont dare take anything verbatim .
The time frames, like the 3 1/2 days, are to be taken verbatim. There are 7 times frame passages given in Revelation to take place in the 7 year (2520 days) 70th week of Daniel 9:27.
Note, that most of the time frames either begin at the start (left boundary) of the 70th week, or end at the end (right boundary) of the 70th week (the Day of Jesus's Return).
Read down through this table I made. It may be of assistance to you in understanding the end times.
No, not a historic event. The two witnesses will testify 1260 days, then be killed, then their bodies lay dead in the street of Jerusalem.
Then God brings them back to life, and they ascend up into a cloud on their way to heaven - as their enemies watch it all happen.
Revelation 11:
11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
ScottA
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To fully accurately understand how great great the context, one must understand the days appointed are defined as "times", and foreshadowed from the beginning--as "seven" times. Which was then elaborated upon by Daniel, saying, "But in the middle of the week (seven) He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering." referring to Messiah--sacrificed once for all.
ScottA
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Those were merely reminders and recaps of revelation, "here a little there a little", referring back to the original seven day creation disclosure of events to follow.
Behold, the former things have come to pass, And new things I declare; Before they spring forth I tell you of them.” Isaiah 42:9
No, Daniel 9:27 is not referring to the messiah, but what the Antichrist will do. The 7 years of Daniel 9:27 are the same 7 years of Ezekiel 39:9.
Can you explain Ezekiel 39 ?
what you have yet to understand, the 2 witness came back to life in the year 1919 . even yet today they are alive and well. much of the world of the harlot would like to take them down .have try'ed and failed.
soberxp
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ScottA
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Again the number is seven (times) as forshadowed from the beginning. This is the Lord God who divides the light from the darkness.
Scott, the issue is not the significance of the number "7". But whether or not the events of Daniel 9:27 have been fulfilled or are still future.
Persons who believe in a partial or complete fulfillment of Daniel 9:27, I ask them to explain Ezekiel 39. Which they cannot because Ezekiel 39 proves their view regarding Daniel 9:27 to be incorrect.
No, the end of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 is the day that Jesus returns. We don't the specific year, month, day at this time.
When the Antichrist confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant right after the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 39, then it will be 7 years later that Jesus will return.
The Antichrist will confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7 year cycle specified by Moses in Deuteronomy 31:9-13, by making a big speech to the nation of Israel from the temple mount.
ScottA
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You by Ezekiel 39 have not proved me incorrect. But have disregarded a key to all truth--of the keys to the kingdom.
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