Before I elaborate, just so you know I believe that what
@TribulationSigns said to you about the meaning of being on a housetop is highly plausible:
"And
them that worship the host of heaven upon the housetops; and them that worship and that swear by Yhwh, and that swear by Malcham" Zephaniah 1:5.
Luke 12
2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
3 Therefore
whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
It's not literal housetops being spoken of. It's a metaphor, as TribulationSigns said. I never saw this before. I'm glad I read his post.
Very good. Glad I helped, to the glory of the Lord. This is why I have said that my post is here as a public record for anyone other than the person I debate with. You also did a good job with the rest of your post about the housetop. I will elaborate more about the housetops here to clarify something that will refute his nonsense about some Judean literal houses of fleeing Jews in 70AD. So much for a grain of salt, eh,
@Spiritual Israelite. :-)
You are right,
God is speaking in metaphors. That is to say, using words denoting one kind of object in place of another, in order to suggest some likeness between the two. The housetop is not used as a "figure" of the Church, rather it is used as a figure of the believers outside the house, in the mode of oration or public speaking. Consider this in the context of the day it was written. There were no huge houses to hold thousands of people, right? So the public speaking and announcements were done from the housetop, above the crowd where people could see and hear the speaker. It was the place of announcements, very much used as a stage or a platform would be used today so that we could speak to the public.
Please note that
the housetop is "outside of the house" (Church), it is not "in" the house. Used in the context of Matthew 24 it is illustrating a preaching platform outside the Church, with the preacher being commanded
not to go back inside the house to get anything. This is not speculation; this truth is made abundantly clear by the other books of the Bible that reference this prophecy, and indeed by the very context of Matthew 24.
Matthew 24:17
- ""Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: "
In other words, God warns His servants that when they flee from this abomination in the congregation, they are not to go back into the house (Church) to get anything, for there is nothing there that is worth their lives! For example, the works and possessions in this house are
now rendered worthless and
the habitation thereof dangerous. They will find no bread (the Word of God) there, no clothing (the righteousness of Christ) there, no gold (the preciousness of Christ) there, and no shelter from storm (the tabernacle of Christ) there. All these things that Christians possessed "in the house" are now gone, and they are not to look back, as Lot's wife looked back. Abominations in the Church have caused it to fall and become a desert (desolation). So they are not to go down into the house to take any thing out of it. They preach from the housetops. It may help to look at the next verse, because the very same spiritual picture is painted there where God says:
Matthew 24:18
- "Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes."
This is the very same warning to those who dwelled on the housetops not to go back in the house, but God is now using the
metaphor of those in the field. Those who were laboring in the field symbolize those in the world (or outside the Church -Matthew 13:38). These are those Christians who are not in the house (Church), but who have come out into the wilderness of the world to sow seed or preach the gospel. Like those on the missionaries. They are not to try to go back into their house to get clothing. There is no clothing there that can protect anyone
at this time. For the clothing, which is the
righteousness of Christ, has
departed it. This has nothing to do with AD 70 at all!! It concerns the spiritual nature of the Church
at this time, where the rise of false prophets and christs are, and why believers should stay away from it.
There are those who feel "as if" they must go to a Church, even if the Church is unbiblical or it is preaching a false gospel. Because unfortunately they are looking to the Church for their security, instead of Christ, and they do not understand just how dreadfully terrible false gospel is to a Holy God. We should not neglect the assembling together of the saints, but we should also remember that we are married to Christ,
not the Church! Consider the mirror reference to this event recorded in the book of Luke:
Luke 17:31
- "In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back."
The imagery illustrated here is that there is nothing in this abominable house that we should
return to. If you're in the field or world, stay there, do not return to this house full of abominations. If our goods or works are left in the house, do not return for their sakes. In other words, don't return for the assembly's sake, for friendship sake, for companionship, for Church tradition, for free coffee and bagels, and worldly music, or for (so-called) love of God. Whosoever loves these more than God is not worthy of Him. Here in this passage of Luke it is a little clearer what the Lord is saying. Believers must not go back into the Church
at this time,
for the things they once had there will not clothe or shelter them, nor is it of any value now. Clearly God is commanding that the believers stay out of the House. Again, as recorded in Mark.
Mark 13:15
- "And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:"
God is distinguishing and separating the house,
from the housetops. It is a dangerous and worthless effort to go inside the house
at this time period. He that is outside the house (housetop) when they "see" the abomination calamity upon the house, should flee without delay. He should not take time to win others, or to secure any articles of apparel, or to get his stuff, or to secure bread from this house. For by doing so, he would endanger his own soul. For there is God's wrath upon this rebellious house, and He has been warned us to flee from it. That is the warning from God in Matthew 24 to those who can "SEE" the abomination stand in the Holy place.
Everyone will not see it, in fact few will have it revealed to them. But when it is, they are to proclaim it from the housetops. But not enter into the house. Consider wisely:
Luke 12:2-4
- ""For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
- Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
- And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do."
Pay particular note to the contrasting of something being whispered in your ear, to something being proclaimed from the "housetops." In other words, the exact opposite of secretive is to make this a public announcement
on the housetops. Preach the gospel message, do not sit in your closet, reveal these truths God has revealed to you, from the housetops. Be the watchman who blows the trumpet when they see danger, and don't worry about your person, being reviled, or being spoken evil against. Your job is to "Watch!" Tribulation, persecution, reviling, contempt or disdain by those unfaithful of the Church should not dissuade the Watchmen. We fear God, not man. We are God pleasers rather than men pleasers. Here again, the housetop is the place "outside the house" used to trumpet the warnings or make the announcement that all the people will hear the witness of the abomination in the Holy place. And even today, many earnest Christians have heard it in the ear (Luke 12:3) just what is Apostasy, and have seen with the eye the abominations in the house, and are indeed preaching from the housetops that many others will also see and hear.
Proverbs 25:24
- "It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house."
Better to be on the housetop or outside the house than to live with the contentious or argumentative woman. Brawling woman, as in two diverse contending parties. For a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.