Those who deny Eternal Security

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justbyfaith

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Did john ever say “ repent to get Saved?” Right.....I didn’t think so....

The real question you ought to ask is, Does the Bible ever say it? And the answer is yes (Ezekiel 33:19, 2 Chronicles 7:14).

As for John, he mentions the concept by telling us that the things of this world will no longer hold their appeal if we have the Holy Ghost (John 6:35, John 4:13-14, John 7:37-39); and that if we come to know the truth, it will set us free from sin (John 8:31-26).
 

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Have a HUGE problem to solve when it comes to the Apostle and leader of the Church Peter.

1- he denied Jesus 3 times
2- he ran from those who said he knew Jesus denying his relationship with Jesus
3- he lived a hypocritical life with the Jews and Gentiles after Pentecost
4- Paul confronts him to his face for being a hypocrite
5- Peter was a stumbling block for the weaker brother Barnabas and caused him to fall into sin as a hypocrite
6- Peter forced the gentiles with him to participate in his hypocrisy

See Galatians 2 for the details.

So according to their heretical teaching the Apostle Peter was not saved, lost his salvation and if he died was going to hell before Paul confronted Him with his sin.

hope this helps !!!
Did Peter ever quit believing, though? That's how one loses salvation, not because of a temporary sin.
 

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Did Peter ever quit believing, though? That's how one loses salvation, not because of a temporary sin.
no and a sheep never loses salvation/eternal life as per Jesus in John 6 and John 10 and Paul in Romans 8
 

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a wolf can kill a sheep but that sheep has eternal life. all the apostles died as martyrs with the exception of John.
I cannot get my breath at the things people say. The deceiver is alive and active in the here and now. Staten is the god of this world and people are easily tempted away either by bright lights or false teaching, and if people are told that cannot happen, they will not care what they do, and bingo, Satan has another victim.
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sorry sheep are sheep and goats are goats- one never becomes the other in nature or in the bible.

Will you please show us scripture that shows they cannot stop being either sheep or goats at any point in time.

And what does nature have to do with an analogy? You are very confused. It is physically impossible for a sheep to change to a goat and vice versa, but it is not physically impossible for a person to gain or lose salvation at any time.

You've been listenening to the silly individuals who say a man cannot become unsaved because a baby cannot be put back into the womb after birth, now haven't you? ;)
 

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Will you please show us scripture that shows they cannot stop being either sheep or goats at any point in time.

And what does nature have to do with an analogy? You are very confused. It is physically impossible for a sheep to change to a goat and vice versa, but it is not physically impossible for a person to gain or lose salvation at any time.

You've been listenening to the silly individuals who say a man cannot become unsaved because a baby cannot be put back into the womb after birth, now haven't you? ;)
can you please show where God can stop being God ?
can you show us where angels can stop being angels ?
can you show us where man can stop being man ?
can you show us where anything created after its OWN KIND can stop being that kind ?

anymore fallacious arguments you would like to share today ?

nuff said........................................................ next
 

TheslightestID

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can you please show where God can stop being God ?
can you show us where angels can stop being angels ?
can you show us where man can stop being man ?
can you show us where anything created after its OWN KIND can stop being that kind ?

anymore fallacious arguments you would like to share today ?

nuff said........................................................ next

So, are you going to substantiate your claim, or just keep talking around it because you cannot? And don't you realize all posts are here for all to see and anyone can see mine was not a fallacious argument? That is just your excuse for not being able to back up your claim with scripture. We call that directing the attention away from the subject with a lie in order to confuse the reader...its an age old tactic.

You do realize making claims about the bible that you cannot back up when asked, makes you a false teacher...right?
 
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