Time of the End and Knowledge shall be Increased.

[rwb]

Do you have any evidence where someone predicted the significance of the year 1948 prior to it occurring? For example, is there any written record of someone, let’s say in the 1800’s, who used the Bible to predict exactly what took place in 1948, or is it only after the fact that people are able to come up with ways that the Bible predicted the year 1948?

I don't find anywhere in Scripture a prediction of 1948!

 

[rwb]

What is your source of information on the condition of what’s happening in the church today? Is it only from the Bible or is it secular? If the church has fallen away then the information from the fallen away church itself is secular.

The faithfulness or lack thereof of congregations themselves are the source of knowing whether or not Christ has removed His Light (candlestick), leaving that body to themselves in darkness and unbelief. We don't discover lifeless congregations by looking at the world. Rather we find lifeless congregations who have become no different from the world. It's not that we must know the spiritual condition of every single congregation on earth. It is enough to know they exist because they have not remained faithful and have allowed the congregation to be deceived by the world, our flesh and the devil. It is the Spirit of Christ in us, that we know these things, not be looking at the conditions of this world. The Spirit will speak to the faithful, then we shall know when a congregation has become an abomination unto God. The overcomers will know because they heed the Spirit and do not allow this world to guide them.

Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 2:7 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 2:11 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Revelation 2:17 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 2:29 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:6 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:13 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:22 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

 

[grafted branch]

The faithfulness or lack thereof of congregations themselves are the source of knowing whether or not Christ has removed His Light (candlestick), leaving that body to themselves in darkness and unbelief. We don't discover lifeless congregations by looking at the world. Rather we find lifeless congregations who have become no different from the world. It's not that we must know the spiritual condition of every single congregation on earth. It is enough to know they exist because they have not remained faithful and have allowed the congregation to be deceived by the world, our flesh and the devil. It is the Spirit of Christ in us, that we know these things, not be looking at the conditions of this world. The Spirit will speak to the faithful, then we shall know when a congregation has become an abomination unto God. The overcomers will know because they heed the Spirit and do not allow this world to guide them.

Revelation 2:5 (KJV) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Revelation 3:3 (KJV) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 2:7 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 2:11 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Revelation 2:17 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 2:29 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:6 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:13 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Revelation 3:22 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Sure, when the Catholic Church was the only Church I suppose a person could make those kind of arguments but currently there are thousands of individual churches and in those churches where two or three are gathered, Christ is there.

Should we constantly want to divide churches? You quote Revelation 2-3 but John wrote to the Jews of his day, not the Gentiles.

Galatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

That agreement was never rescinded.

 

[Marilyn C]

The Ascension of Christ+2000+7 almost 2008.10.10
But I think humans won't be able to survive after 2077. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic.

I agree, except of course the Lord has plans for Israel and the nations involving a thousand years. And that will be with no wars and an agrarian community and the Lord ruling righteously through Israel over the nations.

God is showing that even though He will be ruling righteously through Israel and Satan and his fallen angels locked up, that mankind will still go their own way. Thus, God is just to finish mankind at that point.

 

[Jay Ross]

Do you have any evidence where someone predicted the significance of the year 1948 prior to it occurring? For example, is there any written record of someone, let’s say in the 1800’s, who used the Bible to predict exactly what took place in 1948, or is it only after the fact that people are able to come up with ways that the Bible predicted the year 1948?

I don't find anywhere in Scripture a prediction of 1948!

GB, if we read Genesis 15:16 we are told that, "16 But in the fourth generation/age they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete."

Now in 1948, some of Abraham's descendants return to the land of Canaan in their own strength and claim that the land of Canaan was theirs to live on and establish the Nation of Israel with dominion over the land of Canaan. Now the fourth age of the existence of Israel from the time of the birth of Isaac started in the year 1021 AD and ended in the year 2044 AD. Now Isaac was born at the very end of the year 2052 BC, and in 1948 AD the Nation of Israel was established in the Land of Canaan, exactly 4,000 solar years after the year Isaac was birth.

Now in Exodus 20:4-6 we have this prophetic word given: -

Exodus 20:4-6: - 4 " You shall not make for yourself a carved image — any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations/ages of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments."​

such that the visitation of the fathers' iniquities upon their children occurred from 4 BC up to and including the year 2044 AD after which God declared that He would begin gathering Israel to Himself.

This spoken time of God walking contrary to Israel is recorded in these two passages: -

Firstly, in Jeremiah's lamentation over Israel in: -

Lamentation 5:19-22: - ​

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19 You, O Lord, remain even to the vanishing point in time;​

Your throne will still remain for an age and an age. {i.e. after two ages}​

20 Why do You forget us for so long a time beyond our ability to grasp,​

And forsake us for such a long a time?​

21 Turn us back to You, O Lord, and we will be restored;​

Renew our days as of old,​

22 But You seem to have utterly rejected us,​

And are still angry with us!​

and also in

Hosea 6:1-3: - A Call to Repentance​

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6:1 Come, and let us return to the Lord;​

For He has torn, but He will heal us;​

He has stricken, but He will bind us up.​

2 After two days {within God’s timeframe of reference [1]} He will revive us;​

On the third day {within God’s timeframe of reference} He will raise us up,​

That we may live in His sight.​

3 Let us know,​

Let us pursue the knowledge of the Lord.​

His going forth is established as the morning;​

He will come to us like the rain,​

Like the latter and former rain to the earth.​

The difference between when some of Israel returned to the Land of Canaan in 1948 AD and when God will begin gathering Israel to Himself in 2045 is 96 solar years.

GB I hope that you can follow the above scriptures and confirm that what I have presented is true.

rwb: - Your statement that scripture does not mention 1948 as to year that the fig tree will begin budding leaves once more is true, but God's prophetic word in Genesis 15:16 gave us a time span in which it would occur. 1948 AD does however confirm the prophesised age in which some of Abraham's descendants would return.

Shalom

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[1] The length of time of a Day within God’s timeframe of reference, within mankind’s timeframe of reference is, within my understanding, a period of 1,024 {solar} years

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[Spiritual Israelite]

And yet,there are those who refuse to accept the increase.
They insist the earth is flat.
Some insist gravity is a myth.
And some believe the earth is less than 10,000 years old.

And of course there are those who insist Science is Satanic.
Do they believe in Doctors? Some don't.And their babies die due to that.They should be in prison. You can't neglect children to death under protection of our 1st Amendment.

So,while knowledge has increased,there are those who believe God prefers they remain primitively ignorant .

Which is a problem for everyone they encounter.

It's not talking about scientific knowledge increasing, it's talking about spiritual knowledge increasing, which is what happened when the Holy Spirit started dwelling within God's people and with the creation of the New Testament that contains explanations of Old Testament prophecies that were not previously understood, including from the book of Daniel. As indicated in the original post of this thread, "the time of the end" is equivalent to "the last days" and scriptures like Acts 2:16-21 and 2 Peter 3:3-4 indicate that the last days comprise the New Testament era or the time between the first and second coming of Christ.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

IF you don't believe technology advanced knowledge you are fooling yourself. That cell phone you have has more computing power than banks had in 1980. You can google anything, get directions, use the calculator, check your bank account, and text, that keeps you from mailing letters that you used to. How that for a knowledge increase.

But, what kind of knowledge is Daniel 12:4 talking about? Have you even thought about that or do you just assume it's talking about knowledge in general or about scientific knowledge? Yes, technology has advanced the knowledge of many things, but is that really what the prophecy is talking about? I don't believe so. I believe it's talking about the increase in spiritual and biblical knowledge because of the Holy Spirit dwelling in us and because of the writing of the New Testament.

 

[Gottservant]

If the "internet" is not an example of increased knowledge, I don't know what is!

 

[TribulationSigns]

If the "internet" is not an example of increased knowledge, I don't know what is!

 

[rwb]

If the "internet" is not an example of increased knowledge, I don't know what is!

Of course we can increase WORDLY knowledge through the internet. But is that the knowledge that shall increase for those who have their minds fixed upon heaven? Do we simply wish to attain greater worldly knowledge, or is it the wisdom that comes from gaining greater knowledge of God?

Daniel 12:10 (KJV) Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Colossians 1:10 (KJV) That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

James 3:13-18 (KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

 

[rwb]

rwb: - Your statement that scripture does not mention 1948 as to year that the fig tree will begin budding leaves once more is true, but God's prophetic word in Genesis 15:16 gave us a time span in which it would occur. 1948 AD does however confirm the prophesised age in which some of Abraham's descendants would return.

I don't believe the fig tree began budding in 1948. I believe the sign of the fig tree and all the trees beginning to show life began to come to pass when the message of the gospel of the Kingdom of God began to be preached first to the Jew and then to all the nations of the earth. When the message that was proclaimed through the power of the Holy Spirit is unfailing proof the gospel of Jesus Christ gave and gives eternal life to whosoever hears the message and believes! Life of the tree began small, but in time grew exponentially and will in the end produce eternal life in an innumerable multitude that no man can count.

The parable Christ spoke of the fig and all the trees is a parable pertaining to how the Kingdom of God in heaven shall grow as the gospel of Jesus Christ is preached. The proof of eternal life was immediate for those first Jews who heard the message and were born again of the Spirit of Christ. And the gospel preached continues still to give eternal life to Gentile & Jew alike as all who believe the message are born again.

Mark 4:30-32 (KJV) And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth: But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.

Luke 13:18-19 (KJV) Then said he, Unto what is the kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I resemble it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.

Revelation 7:9-10 (KJV) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

When the first disciples of Christ understood how the gospel preached among first the Jews produced believers in Jesus Christ, it was proof of the beginning of eternal life because it is by grace through faith that mankind must both know and enter the Kingdom of God in heaven. A spiritual Kingdom that cannot be known or entered through physical flesh but only through the spirit of the one who is born again of the Spirit of Christ.

Luke 21:29-30 (KJV) And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

The spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven had come to man, that's why when Christ tells us "this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled", He is not speaking of Christ's Second coming, but telling us we would know by the life produced that the unseen Kingdom of God in heaven has come to every generation beginning with the first generation and will not end until the last to be saved in the last generation has been eternally saved by knowing (see) and entering the Kingdom of God that is not now of this world.

Matthew 24:32-34 (KJV) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

If the "internet" is not an example of increased knowledge, I don't know what is!

Why would you think a Bible prophecy like Daniel 12:4 would have anything to do with the increase of mostly useless general knowledge rather than an increase in godly wisdom and spiritual knowledge?