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Tithing - "How to" not "whether"

Discussion in 'Christian Finance Forum' started by TJM, Jul 31, 2012.

  1. Axehead

    Axehead New Member

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    Yes, I am sure you are very convinced that you have explained yourself and that only 2 members (not 19) disagree with you. And your comprehension skills are amazing! You characterized what I said about the Mosaic Law, incorrectly. And finally yes, people are turned away from churches by tithing being constantly shoved down their throats and financial and authoritarian abuse.

    Stan, you are the king of nanny-nanny-boo-boo so I fully expect you to have the last word.

    Have at it, Stan. The last word is yours.
     
  2. StanJ

    StanJ Lifelong student of God's Word.

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    Well as your onerous attempt at posting equivocal paraphrases of posts failed, what else did you expect?
    You're, I have very good comprehension skills, not just in language but in the spiritual realm.
    I'm sure what I wrote was accurate and as you can't or won't show any different, I take you assertion here for what it's worth...nothing.
    I only respond Axehead and if all you have are ad hominems then there's only that to respond to.
    The last Word will be God's.
     
  3. Sword

    Sword Well-Known Member

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    You do not need to tithe to a church ever. there is no titheing for a NC Christian. churches have robbed us for years. Tithings not for today. There no NC scripture tell you to tithe, dont believe the lie.
     
  4. lforrest

    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Agreed, there should be no compulsory giving, that is robbery. If someone gives it should be done at will. There certainly isn't a 10 percent quota for Christians.

    If I were to allocate a number to our devotion it should be more like 100 percent, because everything we do should be done in faith. That may mean giving time, money, and our lives to the Lord's service. It depends on his plan for us once we have decided to devote ourselves to the Lord.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but giving is just for what ever you come accross in daily life. That would include talking the person on the street for a meal. I had no work for 20 weeks there. and am selfemployed. I am a director at a Charity who offers housing counciling food banks etc. I was to proud to ask for help. I had money come through my door. At one point £1250,00 It came from a young couple who tithe in the home and give as they are lead to. They give a gift to the church as it has to be paid for renting a building etc. Thats the church.
     
  6. tom55

    tom55 Love your neighbor as yourself

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    On the first day of the week each of you should set aside whatever he can afford," 1 Corinthians 16:2

    God doesn't demand a fixed amount of money from us; he wants us to give from the heart.
     
  7. Marymog

    Marymog Well-Known Member

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    God doesn't demand a fixed amount of money from us. He wants us to give from the heart. If people are asked by their church to give a certain percent of their income, that's extortion. If they give freely and cheerfully the amount they are able, that's a gift.

    Just my two cents worth.

    Mary
     
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    Mayflower Well-Known Member

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    So my question about tithing involves my hubby. He says, "whatever you want to do honey." But I don't really feel he quite understands it well or desires to.

    I am a stay at home mom and he makes the income. So Ive been praying about "taking the reigns" I guess and take him up on "whatever you want to do."

    Because I believe it is important. I guess I was sort of hoping he would take charge and want us to do it.

    I am guessing it is considered my income to in tithing...

    I have been praying and think maybe I should just say okay. 10 percent...I also want to teach my daughter right.
     
  9. marksman

    marksman My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her

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    Nowhere in the New Testament are we told to tithe. Nowhere in the New Testament are we told to tithe to the church.

    The instruction to give is on the basis as God has blessed us. If God has blessed us with $10, give from that as he instructs you to. If God has blessed us with a $1 million, give from that as God instructs us to. If God has given you nothing, you do not give.

    It is just as bad to give if God hasn't told you to give as it is to not give when he has told you to give.

    In the New Testament, they did not give to maintain buildings or to pay anyone a salary. They gave to those in need, widows who spent their time praying for the church or who had no family to support them and the apostles whilst they were travelling and could not work.

    The world is full of needy Christians who have been robbed of their sustenance and their ability to provide for themselves, so they must come first. There are plenty of ministries whose sole purpose is to minister to these people so you can give via them.

    In comparison to them, no one in the western church needs financial help. Get rid of our buildings and salaried Christians and we would have billions to give to those who really, really need it.
     
  10. shnarkle

    shnarkle Active Member

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    Tithing is of your increase, but this doesn't have anything to do with whatever money you have except insofar as you're not willing to offer an actual tithe. In other words, if you raise sheep, you give one in ten. If you only have nine, then you don't tithe, but it you don't want to fork over that tenth sheep, you then present an offering(the value of that sheep) PLUS a 20% surcharge. That's how it's outlined in the bible under the Mosaic law.

    So there's the 10% you are to present to the temple, then there's the 10% you are to offer to the poor directly. The temple is GONE, so there is no longer any need to offer a tithe to keep the priests in business. If you want to pay for the upkeep of whatever church you attend, that's up to you.

    There is no better way to tithe than with your time, and effort. If you're going to make a financial offering, there's no better way to do that than directly to the poor themselves. I'm not talking about just handing some money to some guy with his hand out, but giving money to those who you know actually need the money.

    Here's one way it works. You hire someone to do a job, and you know that they need the money to buy books for their son or daughter's education. So you pay them and add a little something.

    You see someone on the side of the road broke down, and stop to help them change a tire, or help pay the towing fee when you discover that they're about to lose their car because they don't have the money to fix it.

    There are people all over who are having trouble making ends meet. If we're not really into participating, and would rather just write a check, then there are plenty of organizations that feed, clothe, and house the poor.

    When you find one that is doing it better than anyone else, you can even just write out a check for 10% of what you've made, and be done with it until you start making money again. Some people would rather they be seen putting money into the collection basket though so they just keep doing that week after week for the rest of their lives.

    I just go to church for the entertainment value.
     
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