To be born again... Lesson #1

[Behold]

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To Be born again means. :


1.) Your sins are on Christ because "God made JESUS to be sin for us, who knew no sin"..... And God's Righteousness has become yours, as you have become "the Righteousness of God in Christ"....."made Righteous".

This is : "Salvation". This is "Redemption". This is the eternal effect of the "Blood Atonement".

2.) Your SPIRIT, born again by God's Holy Spirit, now exists for eternity as "one with God, IN Christ".

Ezekiel 36 says.... "a new HEART i will give you and a new SPIRIT will I put within you.""

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ALL the born again, have been "translated from darkness TO LIGHT.""""

This means the born again spirit now exist in the Kingdom of Light, where God exists.
This is to become "In Christ" = one with Jesus..... who is "The LIGHT of the World", and you are now a "child of the LIGHT", if you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious.

See that?
That is your born again spirit, existing now as : "seated in Heavenly places, in Christ".

To understand this, is to BELIEVE IT, and once you begin to believe this truth regarding what it means to exist SPIRITUALLY "in Christ" "in God", in Heaven, you are now entering God's actual and literal perspective of you as His born again Son/Daughter of God.

Thats what He has caused you to become.

Now, what does this free you from? ?????

It frees you from THE LAW, as you, as a born again SPIRIT, who now exists as "one with God"- "in Christ'.... are now no longer under the Law.
You are "under GRACE".
Why?
Because "Jesus has redeemed you from the CURSE of the LAW".
And what is that curse?
Its to be under the dominion of the Law, instead of being "under Grace".
See.....The LAW >demands< righteousness from you that you can't produce.......while God's GRACE >provides< you with the Grace, from God, = as "the Gift of Righteousness".
See that?

Welcome to : SALVATION.

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God's "GRACE" is not just God's eternal forgiveness and Salvation... freely given through the Cross of Christ....its also where the born again EXIST., being : "translated FROM..... darkness".

Darkness, is :

1.) Being separated from God, because of unforgiven Sin (not born again).
2.) "Having your understanding DARKENED"...

So, being born again, is Literally to be rescued from the Law, and from Spiritual Darkness and from mind blindness as Satan blinds the mind from Truth and LIGHT.
This power of Darkness is Satan's power, its His kingdom., and to be born again, is to be freed from it by God.
It is to enter God's dominion, which is Grace, = which is the Kingdom of Light.
You enter it by being BORN AGAIN = INTO IT....having become "one with God",..."In Christ".
Your Born again Spirit, now exists where they are.....and that is your Eternal life and your Redemption.
That is : Salvation and Resurrection..


Now, you read what i taught, but did you SEE IT. ???

Do you SEE IT.?
Can you SEE that to be born again, is to become something Holy and Spiritual and to exist Spiritually : AS LITERALLY and forever one with God, in Christ.

And because this is the eternal reality regarding the born again Spirit.....You, if you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious... will one day get a NEW CELESTIAL BODY that is created by God = for who you have become, as your current body is not made for it.

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If you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious....then you have been "made alive unto God".... and your sin is on Jesus on the Cross, and God's eternal life is now your eternal Life. Romans 6:11.

Reader.....Do you SEE the renewed mind i have shown you, regarding what it means to have become a "new Creation IN Christ"?

This is not a "saved sinner".
This is a born again Saint, who is JOINED TO GOD, Spiritually.
Now.....i have shown you the right mind you are to exist in, always, daily,.... constantly., as this is the renewed mind.

And that other mind.....the carnal mind....that tries to make you pretend to strive to try to be good......is not the right mind.
Faking trying to be like some theatrical idea you have of Jesus, is not Christianity.
That is the mind of carnality, as that is performing an act.
You're acting. You're faking.
That behavior is an ACT of the flesh, of the carnal mind... that is not connected to "the life i live, i now live by the power of God"......as Paul explains.

The right mind , the mind of Christ, is to understand who you have BECOME as born again, and to walk in THAT understanding, as that is REAL FAITH, = is how you "work out your Salvation".
See that? That is REAL DISCIPLESHIP.
And when you truly understand what im showing you, and you begin to daily discipline your mind to only see yourself in that LIGHT< that "renewed mind".... you are now "walking in the Spirit" and your real faith and your real discipleship has begun.
And not until.

 

[Behold]

Now...

If you are reading this post, then you read the Thread.
IN the Thread i pointed out, strictly, that real discipleship and real Christianity, is not about us trying to create some behavior attempt that is our idea of how we think Christ behaved.
See that?
Most believers are stuck in trying to be some perception (some ACT) of what they think it means to try to imitate Jesus.
And that is not real Christianity.

Christianity is to become free from sin, and one with God, "made righteous"....so that God now lives out His Grace through you.

Christianity is not you struggling to try to be good, hoping that if you try hard enough all the way to the grave, God might accept you.
Not at all., as that is RELIGION....
Christianity, is you becoming a born again part of God, spiritually, and God as Christ in you, living out through you = His Grace.

See that?
That is God and Christ living through you, their Grace, and that is not you trying to behave like you THINK God would have you behave.
As when you do that, you have shut off God and Christ, and are pursuing your own idea of Christianity as self righteousness.

Here is the beautiful mystery.....
God supplies your Christianity and all you do, is exist in it.
ITS A GIFT.
See that?
To understand that.. is to REST in God......to REST in God's Grace.

This : Hebrews 13:9

And, Once you start to do that, then your flesh will weaken, and your carnal behavior will fade and fade and fade.

To REST in God.......to REST in God's Grace.....is where you find real faith and real power to live a perfected discipleship.

If you study Paul, and you should all the time.....Paul tells you that its Christ in Him that is the Power, that is the deliverance, that is the inspiration, that is the REVELATION.... that is the real WALK of Faith.

You can have the same, but you have to stop trying to be religious and start resting in God's Grace that is your Eternal Salvation.

 

[360watt]

Now...

If you are reading this post, then you read the Thread.
IN the Thread i pointed out, strictly, that real discipleship and real Christianity, is not about us trying to create some behavior attempt that is our idea of how we think Christ behaved.
See that?
Most believers are stuck in trying to be some perception (some ACT) of what they think it means to try to imitate Jesus.
And that is not real Christianity.

Christianity is to become free from sin, and one with God, "made righteous"....so that God now lives out His Grace through you.

Christianity is not you struggling to try to be good, hoping that if you try hard enough all the way to the grave, God might accept you.
Not at all., as that is RELIGION....
Christianity, is you becoming a born again part of God, spiritually, and God as Christ in you, living out through you = His Grace.

See that?
That is God and Christ living through you, their Grace, and that is not you trying to behave like you THINK God would have you behave.
As when you do that, you have shut off God and Christ, and are pursuing your own idea of Christianity as self righteousness.

Here is the beautiful mystery.....
God supplies your Christianity and all you do, is exist in it.
ITS A GIFT.
See that?
To understand that.. is to REST in God......to REST in God's Grace.

This : Hebrews 13:9

And, Once you start to do that, then your flesh will weaken, and your carnal behavior will fade and fade and fade.

To REST in God.......to REST in God's Grace.....is where you find real faith and real power to live a perfected discipleship.

If you study Paul, and you should all the time.....Paul tells you that its Christ in Him that is the Power, that is the deliverance, that is the inspiration, that is the REVELATION.... that is the real WALK of Faith.

You can have the same, but you have to stop trying to be religious and start resting in God's Grace that is your Eternal Salvation.

I agree with almost completely.. but query the statement something like salvation isn't a sinner getting saved but a Saint believing. I don't get you on this bit.

Faithful believers are called saints.. but they also sin like every human being. They are in fact still sinners. They can sin less by the Holy Spirit's power.. but cannot be sinless. Not by their behavior. Only in the fact that the saved spirit of a believer does not sin.

So I would like clarification here Behold. Thanks

 

[Behold]

I agree with almost completely.. but query the statement something like salvation isn't a sinner getting saved but a Saint believing. I don't get you on this bit.

Faithful believers are called saints.. but they also sin like every human being. They are in fact still sinners. They can sin less by the Holy Spirit's power.. but cannot be sinless. Not by their behavior. Only in the fact that the saved spirit of a believer does not sin.

Thank you for reading my Thread.

So,

The born again Spirit, is in Christ, One with God.
There is no sin found there, and that is why the NT says this "new Creation" is "made righteous".
And 1 John 3:9, says you dont sin.

But then.

Paul says this......"your old man is crucified with Christ" and to "reckon it dead".
Because it is.....as that is what crucifixion does, its KILLS YOU>.

So, when a believer, born again, has a sinning issue, or what they believe is this, tho its not that, as the born again are "not under the Law">... its because they are not living according to "the old man is crucified" as their renewed mind.

They are resurrecting their flesh, by not understanding who they have become in Christ.
And.. by not working out their salvation, which is to renew your mind out of the "im a sinner", "i have to sin", mindset....that is carnal, they stay stuck in sin consciousness <..
See that ?
The law and the commandments can't deliver you from that, but the Blood Atonement, did....

So, how can the old dead man keep you in the wrong mind?
Its because you are allowing him, the flesh" to control your faith.
You have broken faith.

Here is how right faith sounds.

Paul teaches....."i can do all things through Christ, which strengthens me"......so, is "all things"......"sinning"?
No its not.

Here is how real faith sounds.

"Christ ALWAYS gives me the victory".,,, Paul teaches.

So, does that sound like...>"im sinning and will continue"?

No.

Paul said, teaches, that the renewed mind, which is real faith, which is to have "worked out your salvation", produces, victory over the flesh, the world, the devil.

There is a reason that God never refers to the born again as a sinner or a saved sinner.
The born again are.... "As CHRIST is.....so are the born again, in this world"..
Is that a "sometimes i sin"?. situation?


No. ,unless your mind is not renewed and your faith is wrong, because of it.


The first thing you have to do, is understand that faith can be a curse to you.

Let me show you what i mean...
Jesus told you that as you believe in your heart, as you believe, you will. have it.

So, if you are this person..

"my mama got cancer, and i believe i will get it also". 'My brother did".

See that?
That person just spoke their FAITH, and Faith will provide what you believe.

"Nobody in my family lives to be very old".

See that?

That is their FAITH< and they just spoke it, and Jesus said.......you'l have what you believe... oh ye grain of mustard seed.

Are you following me?
Now lets look at your words...360WATT
You just told us that you BELIEVE you will sin, and remain a sinner.....so, that is your FAITH, and that is the wrong mind.
You have believed that you will remain a sinner, and your faith is come true.

You have to get your FAITH right, 360watt, as all things with God are faith based, faith driven and faith SUPPLIED.
Believe it.
Its True.

 

[360watt]

Thank you for reading my Thread.

So,

The born again Spirit, is in Christ, One with God.
There is no sin found there, and that is why the NT says this "new Creation" is "made righteous".
And 1 John 3:9, says you dont sin.

But then.

Paul says this......"your old man is crucified with Christ" and to "reckon it dead".
Because it is.....as that is what crucifixion does, its KILLS YOU>.

So, when a believer, born again, has a sinning issue, or what they believe is this, tho its not that, as the born again are "not under the Law">... its because they are not living according to "the old man is crucified" as their renewed mind.

They are resurrecting their flesh, by not understanding who they have become in Christ.
And.. by not working out their salvation, which is to renew your mind out of the "im a sinner", "i have to sin", mindset....that is carnal, they stay stuck in sin consciousness <..
See that ?
The law and the commandments can't deliver you from that, but the Blood Atonement, did....

So, how can the old dead man keep you in the wrong mind?
Its because you are allowing him, the flesh" to control your faith.
You have broken faith.

Here is how right faith sounds.

Paul teaches....."i can do all things through Christ, which strengthens me"......so, is "all things"......"sinning"?
No its not.

Here is how real faith sounds.

"Christ ALWAYS gives me the victory".,,, Paul teaches.

So, does that sound like...>"im sinning and will continue"?

No.

Paul said, teaches, that the renewed mind, which is real faith, which is to have "worked out your salvation", produces, victory over the flesh, the world, the devil.

There is a reason that God never refers to the born again as a sinner or a saved sinner.
The born again are.... "As CHRIST is.....so are the born again, in this world"..
Is that a "sometimes i sin"?. situation?


No. ,unless your mind is not renewed and your faith is wrong, because of it.


The first thing you have to do, is understand that faith can be a curse to you.

Let me show you what i mean...
Jesus told you that as you believe in your heart, as you believe, you will. have it.

So, if you are this person..

"my mama got cancer, and i believe i will get it also". 'My brother did".

See that?
That person just spoke their FAITH, and Faith will provide what you believe.

"Nobody in my family lives to be very old".

See that?

That is their FAITH< and they just spoke it, and Jesus said.......you'l have what you believe... oh ye grain of mustard seed.

Are you following me?
Now lets look at your words...360WATT
You just told us that you BELIEVE you will sin, and remain a sinner.....so, that is your FAITH, and that is the wrong mind.
You have believed that you will remain a sinner, and your faith is come true.

You have to get your FAITH right, 360watt, as all things with God are faith based, faith driven and faith SUPPLIED.
Believe it.
Its True.

This is true. It's better to look how we are forgiven as believers and look in faith toward God and His will for us.. than dwell in thinking about sin.

(Eph 4:21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
(Eph 4:22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
(Eph 4:23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
(Eph 4:24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

 

[Behold]

This is true. It's better to look how we are forgiven as believers and look in faith toward God and His will for us.. than dwell in thinking about sin.

(Eph 4:21) If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
(Eph 4:22) That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
(Eph 4:23) And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
(Eph 4:24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Think about this.....

If you are born again....

"your body is dead, because of sin".... so you'll get a NEW Body.

Your old man, and that is the adamic nature, and the mind of the flesh, is "crucified with Christ".

So, what is left?
What is left?

All that is left is..>"the new creation in Christ".,, and that is not your body or your mind.

See that?
And the reason we have to SEE that, is because that is what God sees, when He looks at us.

He does not realize us as our body or our mind.
God perspective of us, is....."You are now made righteous, One with God", 'In Christ"....the "NEW CREATION">

See THAT?
That is YOU.
The real you..the eternal you.
So, that understanding is the renewed mind, that only and always sees yourself as God sees you.

When you get that mind, then when you read Romans 4:8, it'll make sense.
When you read 1 John 3:9, it'll make sense.
When you read that the born again are "seated in heavenly places, in Christ"...it'll made sense, SPIRITUALLY.

THEN, when you read that a born again Christian is a :

SAINT
Heir of GOD
Joint Heir of Jesus
Made righteous
Having become the righteousness of GOD, .... in Christ
BORN AGAIN
New Creation.


It will make spiritual sense to you, because you are now seeing what God thinks, instead of what the carnal mind (the un-renewed mind of the flesh) tries to believe. as that is the Natural Mind and it opposes God and Truth and Heavenly spiritually.

The carnal mind, says....>"saved sinner", get ready to sin again.

The renewed MIND sees...> Im a ......."new creation".... "one with God"...."made righteous"..."having eternal life".....

This..

"As Jesus is......so are the born again, in this world"....


See all that, i showed you?
The wrong mind, the mind of the FLESH, can't believe that......so, you have to renew your mind to the place where you see yourself, as God sees you, always., as i just showed you how God sees all the born again.