If you say you don't deny those Scriptures by our Lord Jesus, then why do you continually teach against them?
I don't.
When you teach that Jesus comes to gather His Church prior to the tribulation, and that those left behind are Jews that come to Jesus during... the tribulation, i.e., Pre-trib's "tribulation saints" idea which is not... written of in God's Word, then you are teaching against those very Scriptures I posted.
No. I disagree WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING;
And I AGREE WITH the Lords Understanding.
I Expressly explained this to you, then Asked you Questions, which you did not answer.
What do you think is the PURPOSE of the Great Tribulation?
A Time for God to SHOW HIS ANGER at men WHO have Accepted Him and His Christ Messiah?
You said you would REMAIN ON EARTH...Doing the Lords WILL...of Preaching that others might become converted...Correct?
Where IS THAT Scriptural Teaching?
And Are you going to Synagogs and Mosques and Buddhist Temples NOW, where Jews, and Muslims and Buddhists gather to TEACH them of God and Gods Christ Messiah, so that they may CONVERT?
IF NOT WHY NOT, when you teach, that is what you would be doing DURING the Tribulation?
The reason why I say this is because Jesus is talking to His Church right there in Matthew 24 and Mark 13, even the foundation of His Church per Ephesians 2. And He is forewarning them as to what they may expect to happen to them during the tribulation. He certainly is not... telling them they will escape it like the Pre-trib Rapture doctors teach.
JESUS CAME TO SAVE THE JEWS...
JESUS traveled to TOWNS where JEWS LIVED..
JESUS' Brethren WERE JEWS.
JESUS' PRIMARY Audience WERE:
...the Curious....JEWS and GENTILES.
NOT EVERYONE Listening...Became Convinced, Elected to Believe, or Even Understood WHAT He was talking ABOUT.
Jesus' JEWISH Brethren are ONE thing.
Jesus' "ANYONE" Brethren are Another thing.
JEWS are Brethren by Division God SET.
Brethren "IN" Christ are Brethren by a Division that JESUS SET.
Ya, ya, ya,.....WHILE Jesus was ON EARTH, many JEWS became CONVERTED, and BELIEVED IN BOTH GOD, AND Jesus the Christ.
OPEN YOUR EYES...FOR ONLY A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME...WHILE Jesus was ON EARTH and WHILE JESUS' chosen JEWISH Disciples were ON EARTH were ANY OF the Majority of the TRIBES OF ISRAEL "CONVERTING" to BELIEF IN Jesus the Christ Messiah.
Do you think "THAT" ISRAEL, the ELECT OF GOD...WHO REJECT Jesus the CHRIST MESSIAH...SHALL BE SAVED...BY YOUR PREACHING during the GREAT TRIBULATION?
Scripture doesn't SAY SO.
Scripture EXPRESSILY reveals GOD SENDS "HIS" two WITNESSES.
GOD SEND "HIS" 144,000 of 12,000 from EVERY one of the TWELVE TRIBES to Preach to ISRAEL....
ARE YOU one of Thee TWO WITNESSES?
ARE YOU one of THEE 144,000?
WHERE is YOUR ROLE described DURING THE Great TRIBULATION? And WHY?
Because MY ROLE is described BEING WITH THEE Lord, IN THE CLOUDS.
And WHY IS BECAUSE I AM NOT "APPOINTED" to suffer Gods End of Days (ANGER/WRATH).
BECAUSE, I am ALREADY ACCOUNTED "WHOLE"....Body, Soul, Spirit...IN FULL FAITHFULNESS TO GOD and CHRIST Jesus.
Apparently you are unaware, MANY OTHERS, particularly Gods ELECT "TRIBES OF ISRAEL", MUST suffer SOME of Gods ANGER, for having Rejected Jesus as their Christ Messiah....
AND THEN Come into Belief, IN Jesus as their Christ Messiah...and SUFFER PHYSICAL DEATH at the hands of the Anti-Christ.
I have NO APPOINTMENT TO SUFFER Physical Death, during the Great Tribulation (When the Anti-Christ is Revealed) at the Hands of the Anti-Christ....
I AM ALREADY "DEAD IN CHRIST"...when MY BODY WAS CRUCIFIED AS HIS BODY WAS" !
And Because I AM DEAD IN CHRIST, I am therefore ALIVE "IN CHRIST". It is IN CHRIST by which I LIVE....
I am ALREADY PREPARED TO BE Resurrected and BODILY RISE UP to My Lord IN the Clouds, WHEN HE CALLS...BECAUSE HIS Sheep "HEAR" His Voice, His Calling UP TO HIM.
My BODY shall PHYSICALLY BE CHANGED AS IT IS RISING UP TO HIM! Just as Jesus' Body was Changed from the flesh body a man can SEE to a Glorious Body, that rose up to the CLOUDS.
AT the END of the GREAT TRIBULATION....
Gods ELECT, ie Gods People ISRAEL WHO DID NOT BECOME Christ's Church, but came to belief in Jesus the Christ Messiah....SHALL be Bodily Gathered together, by God, unto God.
There is a TIMING for a man to Become "A MEMBER" of Christ's Church.
First Jesus, the SON OF MAN, had to be revealed. That Happened.
Then, The Son of Man, Jesus, had to be revealed as the Son of God. That Happened.
Then, the Son of God, Jesus, had to be revealed as the Christ Messiah. That Happened.
Then, Men of the earth had to HEAR, of those things.
Then, Men of the earth had to BELIEVE, those things.
And the DIVISION IS...NOT ALL MEN of the Earth BELIEVE those things.
it is CHRIST who is descending from Heaven to the Clouds.....NOT the Lamb of God, NOT Jesus the Son of Man.....THEE CHRIST MESSIAH...!
Calling up HIS CHURCH TO HIM!
MEMBERSHIP "TO" CHRIST'S CHURCH IS CLOSED....Christ'a Church will NO LONGER "BE" ON EARTH!
And WHEN, "Jews/ Israel Tribes", begin believing in Jesus the Christ Messiah, during the Tribulation....they are becoming CONVERTED....But they are NOT becoming Members of Christ's Church.
They are NOT Being BODILY Crucified with Christ....they ARE Being BODILY KILLED by the Anti-Christ.
And THEIR saved souls are gathered together and GO TO HEAVEN.
And AFTER the great TRIBULATION, THEIR BODIES are gathered together ON EARTH.
"THEY shall SEE the SON OF MAN, Coming DOWN FROM the Clouds, and CRYING for having DISBELIEVED".
Christ's CHURCH shall be coming WITH HIM...
Since WHERE Christ IS, IS ALSO HIS Church.
So, No I do not deny an end of days Resurrection of Gods Elect Israel, and Gods gathering of the BODIES of HIS People Israel.
I simply Believe, as Scripture Teaches, Christ the Lord Jesus, resurrects HIS People, IN CHRIST, HIS Church UP TO HIM, Before the Great Tribulation.
And IN the FINALITY...ALL People WITH thee Lord God Almighty....WILL Believe IN
THEE Lord God Almighty and ....
The titles, Jewish, Israel, Christians....will NO LONGER Be a Division...
They WILL BE ONE People with ONE thee Lord God Almighty.
But to IGNORE the DIVISION NOW...you can not therefore understand WHEN their Division Ends and When they are Separated from those "WITHOUT" Christ.
Glory to God,
Taken