Grailhunter
Well-Known Member
The one person concept of the Trinity is very popular. And what harm does it do?
But it is not the truth. In the storyline of the Gospels we see two Gods working to save humanity.
"Count Gods" "Count God names" God the Father in heaven....God the Son on earth do the work of His Father.
Spirits....aspects... projections....the multiple aspect of one God is / was a Pagan concept. The Triple Goddess.
The unity is unique enough....not one that we are going to figure out.
The Jews believed in one God. The Christian would have wanted the Jews to come on board and in the beginning promoting the one God thing was important so the Jews would accept Christianity....but it did not work. The Jews were looking for a human messiah....and still are to this day. They simply could not get their heads around a messiah that was the Son of God.
The Pagan converts had no issues with the three named Gods....which was no surprise. But by the time of Ecumenical councils there were people thinking of Christ as a demi-god....and the Gnostics that wanted to divorce the God of the Old Testament, seeing Him as either crazy or evil.
So the councils wanted to nail the point down.....their decisions ...the three Gods were equal....the three Gods were one....and at least God and Son were of the same substance and nature....and Christ was so powerful that He replaced God the Father as the creator God.
Now some of these decisions were so far out there that they had to be enforced on the people with threats of death and excommunication.....if you did not believe like they did, you would not go to heaven. Any doctrine that had to have this type of enforcement....is false.
God the Father begot God the Son that is the truth.
The name of the Holy Spirit was not divulged in the scriptures or any real details so that is what we have and the lack of details have produced hundreds of assertions. Just safe to say and truthful to say, God the Holy Spirit.
But it is not the truth. In the storyline of the Gospels we see two Gods working to save humanity.
"Count Gods" "Count God names" God the Father in heaven....God the Son on earth do the work of His Father.
Spirits....aspects... projections....the multiple aspect of one God is / was a Pagan concept. The Triple Goddess.
The unity is unique enough....not one that we are going to figure out.
The Jews believed in one God. The Christian would have wanted the Jews to come on board and in the beginning promoting the one God thing was important so the Jews would accept Christianity....but it did not work. The Jews were looking for a human messiah....and still are to this day. They simply could not get their heads around a messiah that was the Son of God.
The Pagan converts had no issues with the three named Gods....which was no surprise. But by the time of Ecumenical councils there were people thinking of Christ as a demi-god....and the Gnostics that wanted to divorce the God of the Old Testament, seeing Him as either crazy or evil.
So the councils wanted to nail the point down.....their decisions ...the three Gods were equal....the three Gods were one....and at least God and Son were of the same substance and nature....and Christ was so powerful that He replaced God the Father as the creator God.
Now some of these decisions were so far out there that they had to be enforced on the people with threats of death and excommunication.....if you did not believe like they did, you would not go to heaven. Any doctrine that had to have this type of enforcement....is false.
God the Father begot God the Son that is the truth.
The name of the Holy Spirit was not divulged in the scriptures or any real details so that is what we have and the lack of details have produced hundreds of assertions. Just safe to say and truthful to say, God the Holy Spirit.